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Great news!! I can't wait to buy their new meego phones. And I think if the Qt and meego community supports this,meego will succeed.Even the market is crowded nowadays,it need a new product.

Not sure I follow your train of thought. Let me rephrase: in general, every file separately is - by law - "protected" by copyright (either yours or your employer's). What Qt itself does is it adds a short disclaimer to every file that states what the license is (by name) and points out to the reader where the full text is located. This is also what FSF proposes, and I think it does solve your problem - because you can put different notice in every file (depending on what license is valid for it).

latest Qt Creator that works on the platform (2.5 on Windows, 2.4.x on the Mac) Qt 4.8.2 manually built on Mac OS X and Windows/MinGW toolchain some older Qt statically built on the Mac for some other project no SDK, no prebuilt binaries

There is no GUI licensing at all. The only way to protect a GUI is by using patents (or arguing fiercely for copyright in court). The code that generates the GUI, however, can have a license.

I wrote a Qt version of it -- implemented as a custom widget -- many, many years ago (think Qt 2.x) but it has long been sacrificed to the gods of bit rot and is just a mere memory now.

It is definitely a fascinating exercise.

Hm, true. Luckily, wikipedia supplies a "Did you mean" and it works well.

[quote author="Andre" date="1340947427"]
[quote author="tucnak" date="1340917426"]Qt Cretor couldn't give archievments - only QtDN. And we all are honest people. E.g. I won't cheat in any situations.[/quote]
No, but Creator would need to supply the data for the achievements, right? How hard it is to manipulate that data? Almost trivial...

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You are right. So I need to think about it...

I would suggest to take a look a development mailing list. Dust has settled after that news boomed, now devs are back in development, and a lot of healthy discussion is going on.

There are also lots of people and companies (ICS for example) willing to help. And Nokia still did not say, what it intends to do with Qt (I mean in short-term).

Inspired with your thread I had some "ideas":http://qt-project.org/forums/viewthread/18365/ ;).

I havent did so... I get emails from others and vice versa....

Ironically it is Iran that is being terrorized in numerous ways - N1 target for cyber terrorism, N1 target for financial terrorism, N1 target for political terrorism, N1 target for economic terrorism...

On the bright side - soroush - you are not losing that much, the dev talks are more informative in direction rather than educational. Those videos won't teach you Qt programming, a good book on the other hand will. There is a free online book on Qt - "an introduction to design patterns in c++ with qt", and I'd also recommend "Foundations of Qt Development" which is not free but you'll probably be able to get it even in Iran.

mahsa_106l - proxies are usually hellishly slow, especially free ones, good for opening a web page or downloading a torrent file and getting the actual content p2p, but not really an option for downloading huge files. Not to mention that "censorship done right" blocks entire IP ranges, not just some domain, so you don't even get p2p. At any rate, downloading big stuff like the SDK or dev talk videos through a proxy is not really a viable solution.

I can be patient. I am talking about last Qt news. 10K people were fired.

NOKIA - firing people.

[quote author="john_god" date="1340472785"]
[quote author="jstaniek" date="1340407449"]This is important as the use of Linux for desktop is currently in danger.
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Why do you say that ?
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Go to any Free Software events in the world and count how many people are using Free Software desktop vs Apple OS. If even Free Software developer are switching to an App Store unfriendly for Free Software vendor, that's bad. And the trend is sadly not new.

hello Welcome اهلا بيك

Good for you :) I wish I could go but I'll miss it. As far as I know all seats for the BlackBerry event in Berlin are already taken.

Well, there is a commercial ios port and their is an app done using Qt in the Apple appstore. Apple shouldn't have any problem with Qt apps. There are lots of other cross platform frameworks and Apple is accepting apps done using them. For RIM, lot depends on their BB10 phone which is to be released later this year. There is still possibility that Qt becomes an important player in mobile world. Let's wait and see as Lukas said.

[quote author="Alexandra" date="1339755756"]Yes, it's true. Today is my last day working for Nokia; on Monday I will hand back the keys, so to speak. I will sorely miss my team, especially Marius with all his teasing, and I am extremely proud of what we have built. However, some opportunities are simply to good to let them pass.

But I am only this one little me, you are the hundreds of people populating this place. I have contributed to the foundations, it's you who build the house!

Upwards and onwards!

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So, it is official! :-(

Thank you Alexandra for all the great work you did for Qt's community! Accept my best wishes for your new job! :-)

Yes, I agree with sierdzio, exploration of the current sources will take a little bit time and effort to understand what's going on "behind scenes"...

http://allthingsd.com/20120614/nokia-to-end-meltemi-effort-for-low-end-smartphones/

Game over for Meltemi.
Game over for a Nokia funded Qt very soon.
Long live Qt!

@Stephen - you assume the deal happened spontaneously, but it might very well been cooking for some time. Such dramatic strategic shifts take preparation. Microsoft has been worrying about competitors significantly lesser than Qt, as a good crossplatform library Qt is a viable longterm thread for MS. People use Windows because their programs can only run in Windows, Qt makes it easy to write programs that run on other operating systems, including Linux, which is free. And I myself wouldn't ever bother with Windows if all my programs were available for Linux. Besides being cross platform, as a native C++ framework, Qt has a performance and memory advantage to .NET too.

There is plenty of room in the mobile market, in fact if Qt steps in, it will be WITHOUT competition, as there currently AREN'T ANY native cross platform frameworks. With the Android SDK your application only runs only on Android, with the iOS SDK your applications runs only on iOS, same for Microsoft's development toolchain, even with SDKs like MoSync or Marmalade which support most mobile platforms, you don't get desktops.

There is definitely a place for a ALL IN ONE solution, being capable of running on all major mobile and desktop platforms, and many developers would be interested into making their applications available everywhere in an effortless way. We have many brands of cars too, it doesn't mean there is no room for a new, versatile vehicle that runs more efficiently, on all types of fuel and across all terrain, figuratively speaking.

Qt gaining mobile market share is only illusional for as long as it is in the hands of Nokia, who will not dedicate to supporting major mobile platforms, and has no popular platform but uses that of MS which Qt doesn't support. But in the hands of another company, Qt has the potential of rising in popularity very quickly. Android alone is about 50% of the mobile device market, and having dealt with the Android SDK I'd chose Qt over it any day, and I see no reason why this won't apply to most developers. Android is on its way to desktops too and will pretty soon start stealing market share from Microsoft. Just look at how much market share Chrome managed to steal in just a few years.