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    mrjj
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    wrote on 25 Sept 2017, 06:39 last edited by
    #3

    Hi
    Cool. How does it know what code to run when
    property bool isConnected changes?
    the source: {} is aware it uses isConnected inside and hence reacts?

    S 1 Reply Last reply 25 Sept 2017, 06:48
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    • M mrjj
      25 Sept 2017, 06:39

      Hi
      Cool. How does it know what code to run when
      property bool isConnected changes?
      the source: {} is aware it uses isConnected inside and hence reacts?

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      sierdzio
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      wrote on 25 Sept 2017, 06:48 last edited by
      #4

      @mrjj said in A basic Question:

      the source: {} is aware it uses isConnected inside and hence reacts?

      Is that a question to me?

      Yes, it is aware. That's how QML engine works, it builds up an "understanding" of which property update should trigger which bindings to be recalculated. In this case, "source" will be recalculated each time root.isConnected is changed, and each time mouseArea.containsMouse changes.

      Ah, I just noticed the OP has property bool m_connected: false, I should have used that instead of adding my isConnected. Anyway, that's a small change to make.

      (Z(:^

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      • S sierdzio
        25 Sept 2017, 06:48

        @mrjj said in A basic Question:

        the source: {} is aware it uses isConnected inside and hence reacts?

        Is that a question to me?

        Yes, it is aware. That's how QML engine works, it builds up an "understanding" of which property update should trigger which bindings to be recalculated. In this case, "source" will be recalculated each time root.isConnected is changed, and each time mouseArea.containsMouse changes.

        Ah, I just noticed the OP has property bool m_connected: false, I should have used that instead of adding my isConnected. Anyway, that's a small change to make.

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        wrote on 25 Sept 2017, 06:51 last edited by mrjj
        #5

        @sierdzio
        Yes it was as you seem to really know QML and i was wondering how it works.
        Sorry for intruding a little :)
        I had no idea that binding was that effective so it would know inside code it uses some
        property and hence should execute.
        Very cool.

        S 1 Reply Last reply 25 Sept 2017, 06:54
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        • S sierdzio
          25 Sept 2017, 06:36

          It's OK, although the general "philosophy" behind QML is for it to be declarative: you define what you want, and Qt does it for you. Your implementation is imperative: you state exactly what you want.

          Here is an alternative, more declarative solution:

          Item {
            id: root
            property bool isConnected: false
          
          Image {
            id: mainImg
            source: {
              if (isConnected) {
                if (mouseArea.containsMouse)
                  return imgHoverC
                else
                  return imgConnected
              } else {
                if (mouseArea.containsMouse)
                  return imgHoverD
                else
                  return imcDefault
              }  
            }
            anchors.fill: parent
            }
          
            MouseArea {
              id: mouseArea
              hoverEnabled: true
            }
          }
          

          With that (you can remove other functions you created), the Image element will automatically respond to any changes in both mouse area and isConnected property.

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          wrote on 25 Sept 2017, 06:53 last edited by
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          @sierdzio wow, thanks.

          I remade that item(class?) about 4 times already, each time it has less code in it and becomes faster.

          Your example works splendently!
          I technically don't even need the setConnected function.

          Will take a while to get my head around this different style of QML ...

          Thanks again, time to dig back in!


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          • M mrjj
            25 Sept 2017, 06:51

            @sierdzio
            Yes it was as you seem to really know QML and i was wondering how it works.
            Sorry for intruding a little :)
            I had no idea that binding was that effective so it would know inside code it uses some
            property and hence should execute.
            Very cool.

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            wrote on 25 Sept 2017, 06:54 last edited by
            #7

            @mrjj said in A basic Question:

            @sierdzio
            Yes it was as you seem to really know QML and i was wondering how it works.
            Sorry for intruding a little :)
            I had no idea that binding was that effective so it would know inside code it uses some
            property and hence should execute.
            Very cool.

            Hey, no problem, I'm happy to explain :-)

            (Z(:^

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              25 Sept 2017, 06:53

              @sierdzio wow, thanks.

              I remade that item(class?) about 4 times already, each time it has less code in it and becomes faster.

              Your example works splendently!
              I technically don't even need the setConnected function.

              Will take a while to get my head around this different style of QML ...

              Thanks again, time to dig back in!

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              wrote on 25 Sept 2017, 06:57 last edited by
              #8

              @J.Hilk said in A basic Question:

              @sierdzio wow, thanks.

              I remade that item(class?) about 4 times already, each time it has less code in it and becomes faster.

              Your example works splendently!

              Great, good to hear.

              I technically don't even need the setConnected function.

              Yes, it should not be necessary. If you need to modify the value of m_connected, even from other file where your button is added, it will be enough to modify it via dot syntax. The change signal is emitted automatically. So, assuming your button is saved in MyButton.qml file, you can do this:

              // some other QML file, for example main.qml
              MyButton {
                id: myButton
                m_connected: true
              }
              

              Thanks again, time to dig back in!

              Happy coding! :-)

              (Z(:^

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              • S sierdzio
                25 Sept 2017, 06:54

                @mrjj said in A basic Question:

                @sierdzio
                Yes it was as you seem to really know QML and i was wondering how it works.
                Sorry for intruding a little :)
                I had no idea that binding was that effective so it would know inside code it uses some
                property and hence should execute.
                Very cool.

                Hey, no problem, I'm happy to explain :-)

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                wrote on 25 Sept 2017, 06:59 last edited by
                #9

                @sierdzio
                Super
                Have a tiny little one extra
                It knows to recalc source when MouseArea changes simply because its inside its scope?
                I have same issue as J.Hilk trying to apply widget logic to QML and its really not. :))

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                • M mrjj
                  25 Sept 2017, 06:59

                  @sierdzio
                  Super
                  Have a tiny little one extra
                  It knows to recalc source when MouseArea changes simply because its inside its scope?
                  I have same issue as J.Hilk trying to apply widget logic to QML and its really not. :))

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                  wrote on 25 Sept 2017, 07:37 last edited by sierdzio
                  #10

                  @mrjj said in A basic Question:

                  It knows to recalc source when MouseArea changes simply because its inside its scope?

                  Now, how scopes work in QML is a bit complicated, I'm sure you'll encounter lots of WTF? moments :-)

                  Yes, in this case the mouse area is in scope (the Image can access it's properties by calling it by ID, in my example the id is mouseArea). But in general, all QML engine needs is to get the onPropertyChanged signal - it does not matter from where it is coming from, it will simply register that signal as "hey, Property changed it's value, so I need to update the value here, too". It can be some global context property, QML singleton, other QML component, or even some C++ QObject that was exposed/ connected (via context property, or Connections element for example) and is visible to Image component.

                  Some things to be aware of here:

                  • the binding will be recalculated each time some (relevant) property changes. This can sometimes mean a lot of updates per second, for example if you bind to mouse.x (one tends to move the mouse quite a lot :-))
                  • thus, it is important not to overdo it (for example, if you create a Q_PROPERTY in c++, remember not to emit changed() signal when the property value has not changed: if (newValue == oldValue) return;. Qt Creator automatically generates good code for properties, thankfully)
                  • if you (at some point) assign a value to property in JavaScript, the binding is broken. It won't update anymore. Here's a short example:
                  Item { id: obj1; height: obj2.height * 2 }
                  Item { id: obj2 }
                  MouseArea {
                    onClicked: obj1.height = obj2.height * 3 // Boom!
                    // The binding is broken when you click the mouse area.
                    // Why? You tell obj1 that the height should be set
                    // to a new value, right here right now. To QML, it is
                    // the same as if you set it to obj1.height = 150.
                    // Constant value
                  }
                  

                  In the example, if you want to change the binding to obj1.height: obj2.height * 3 and keep it updating when obj2.height changes, you can use Binding element.

                  (Z(:^

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                    mrjj
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                    wrote on 25 Sept 2017, 08:09 last edited by
                    #11

                    Oh yes lots of those moments :)
                    Aha, so if u set to a constant value it wont auto update.
                    What if multiple objects are using the same binding?
                    Is it then disabled for all or only for that mouse area or is it globally?

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                    • M mrjj
                      25 Sept 2017, 08:09

                      Oh yes lots of those moments :)
                      Aha, so if u set to a constant value it wont auto update.
                      What if multiple objects are using the same binding?
                      Is it then disabled for all or only for that mouse area or is it globally?

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                      wrote on 25 Sept 2017, 08:29 last edited by
                      #12

                      @mrjj said in A basic Question:

                      What if multiple objects are using the same binding?

                      Each binding is used by single object. They are declared on the "receiving end", so to speak. Example:

                      Item { height: someObj.height + 15 }
                      Item { height: someObj.height + 15 }
                      Item { height: someObj.height + someObj.height }
                      

                      These are 3 separate bindings. If you overwrite the height value in first Item with some constant, remaining 2 will still work and update automatically.

                      (Z(:^

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                      • S sierdzio
                        25 Sept 2017, 08:29

                        @mrjj said in A basic Question:

                        What if multiple objects are using the same binding?

                        Each binding is used by single object. They are declared on the "receiving end", so to speak. Example:

                        Item { height: someObj.height + 15 }
                        Item { height: someObj.height + 15 }
                        Item { height: someObj.height + someObj.height }
                        

                        These are 3 separate bindings. If you overwrite the height value in first Item with some constant, remaining 2 will still work and update automatically.

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                        wrote on 25 Sept 2017, 08:39 last edited by
                        #13

                        @sierdzio
                        Super. Then its all clear.
                        Also the global nature of it was escaping me.
                        like you can use
                        MyButton {
                        id: myButton
                        m_connected: true
                        }
                        with out any extern/include/add to scope extras.

                        Thank you.

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                        • M mrjj
                          25 Sept 2017, 08:39

                          @sierdzio
                          Super. Then its all clear.
                          Also the global nature of it was escaping me.
                          like you can use
                          MyButton {
                          id: myButton
                          m_connected: true
                          }
                          with out any extern/include/add to scope extras.

                          Thank you.

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                          wrote on 25 Sept 2017, 08:53 last edited by
                          #14

                          @mrjj said in A basic Question:

                          with out any extern/include/add to scope extras.

                          Yes, although there are some rules here. Only top-level properties (defined in root element of any given QML file) are visible outside of the component. Also, no IDs are accessible outside of current QML file (with a few tiny exceptions). So:

                          /// Some other qml file
                          MyButton {
                            m_connected: true // Works fine
                            mouseArea.hoverEnabled: false // Error. The ID 'mouseArea' is not visible outside of MyButton.qml file,
                            // and additionally hoverEnabled is not a top-level property
                          }
                          

                          (Z(:^

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                          • S sierdzio
                            25 Sept 2017, 08:53

                            @mrjj said in A basic Question:

                            with out any extern/include/add to scope extras.

                            Yes, although there are some rules here. Only top-level properties (defined in root element of any given QML file) are visible outside of the component. Also, no IDs are accessible outside of current QML file (with a few tiny exceptions). So:

                            /// Some other qml file
                            MyButton {
                              m_connected: true // Works fine
                              mouseArea.hoverEnabled: false // Error. The ID 'mouseArea' is not visible outside of MyButton.qml file,
                              // and additionally hoverEnabled is not a top-level property
                            }
                            
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                            mrjj
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                            wrote on 25 Sept 2017, 08:58 last edited by mrjj
                            #15

                            @sierdzio
                            oh
                            so only first level of scope ?
                            Item {
                            can_be_seen
                            Item2 {
                            all here is private?
                            }
                            }

                            well maybe its good IDs are not global visible or one could make some crazy spaghetti code very easy.

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                              25 Sept 2017, 08:58

                              @sierdzio
                              oh
                              so only first level of scope ?
                              Item {
                              can_be_seen
                              Item2 {
                              all here is private?
                              }
                              }

                              well maybe its good IDs are not global visible or one could make some crazy spaghetti code very easy.

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                              wrote on 25 Sept 2017, 09:02 last edited by
                              #16

                              @mrjj said in A basic Question:

                              @sierdzio
                              oh
                              so only first level of scope ?

                              Yes, only first level, unless I am mistaken ;-) Writing from memory now. And this applies to using the component somewhere else (in a different QML file). Within single file, there are no such strict visibility restrictions.

                              well maybe its good IDs are not global visible or one could make some crazy spaghetti code very easy.

                              Yea, it can be a bit annoying in the beginning, but enforces some rather good practices in the long run.

                              (Z(:^

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                              • S sierdzio
                                25 Sept 2017, 09:02

                                @mrjj said in A basic Question:

                                @sierdzio
                                oh
                                so only first level of scope ?

                                Yes, only first level, unless I am mistaken ;-) Writing from memory now. And this applies to using the component somewhere else (in a different QML file). Within single file, there are no such strict visibility restrictions.

                                well maybe its good IDs are not global visible or one could make some crazy spaghetti code very easy.

                                Yea, it can be a bit annoying in the beginning, but enforces some rather good practices in the long run.

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                                wrote on 25 Sept 2017, 09:38 last edited by
                                #17

                                @sierdzio said in A basic Question:

                                well maybe its good IDs are not global visible or one could make some crazy spaghetti code very easy.

                                Yea, it can be a bit annoying in the beginning, but enforces some rather good practices in the long run.

                                I agree. Otherwise there's no private/public distinction in QML (and you can bypass even this visibility restriction runtime if you really want to) but I think it's reasonable to hide those inside IDs because otherwise it would encourage messy programming style with no real components. Now we at least have a possibility to have real "implementation details", some kind of data hiding. So sometimes it feels annoying but in the long run it's better.

                                About the original problem, here's another possible solution. Not as nice and tidy as @sierdzio's but in some cases might it be clearer not to use nested if-elses, and if you have to change several properties based on the same conditions you would have to duplicate those conditions. Here you can just add another property to PropertyChanges.
                                (changed image to rect to save some work...)

                                import QtQuick 2.6
                                import QtQuick.Controls 2.2
                                import QtQuick.Layouts 1.1
                                
                                ApplicationWindow {
                                    visible: true
                                    width: 640
                                    height: 480
                                
                                    ColumnLayout {
                                        id: columnLayout
                                        anchors.fill: parent
                                        Button{onClicked: root.isConnected=!root.isConnected}
                                        Item {
                                            id: root
                                            property bool isConnected: false
                                            Layout.fillHeight: true
                                            Layout.fillWidth: true
                                            Rectangle {
                                                id: mainImg
                                                anchors.fill:parent
                                                
                                                states:[
                                                    State{
                                                        name:"conn_mouse"
                                                        when:root.isConnected && mouseArea.containsMouse
                                                        PropertyChanges {
                                                            target:mainImg
                                                            color:"red"
                                                        }
                                                    },
                                                    State{
                                                        name:"conn_no_mouse"
                                                        when:root.isConnected&&!mouseArea.containsMouse
                                                        PropertyChanges {
                                                            target:mainImg
                                                            color:"green"
                                                        }
                                                    },
                                                    State{
                                                        name:"noconn_mouse"
                                                        when:!root.isConnected&&mouseArea.containsMouse
                                                        PropertyChanges {
                                                            target:mainImg
                                                            color:"blue"
                                                        }
                                                    },
                                                    State{
                                                        name:"noconn_nomouse"
                                                        when:!root.isConnected&&!mouseArea.containsMouse
                                                        PropertyChanges {
                                                            target:mainImg
                                                            color:"yellow"
                                                        }
                                                    }
                                                ]
                                            }
                                
                                            MouseArea {
                                                id: mouseArea
                                                hoverEnabled: true
                                                anchors.fill:parent
                                                onClicked: console.log("clicked")
                                            }
                                        }
                                    }
                                }
                                
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                                  mrjj
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                                  wrote on 25 Sept 2017, 09:47 last edited by
                                  #18

                                  hi
                                  yes it might be annoying at first. Like UI of widgets being private but
                                  save you from pain down the road.

                                  states

                                  Oh that is a nice class. So that would be better if m_connected state were more complex
                                  or more than source property we wanted to changed on the clicked etc.

                                  ¨Thank you for sharing.

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                                    wrote on 25 Sept 2017, 21:20 last edited by
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                                    Just one stylistic note... Quick Controls 2 standard library qml code uses this extensively so it may be at least good to know even if you don't want to use it. It's alternative syntax for nested if-else. Modifying my own code, just set the rectangle color (or in sierzio's code the image source):

                                    color: root.isConnected ? (mouseArea.containsMouse ? "red" : "green") :
                                           (mouseArea.containsMouse ? "blue" : "yellow")
                                    

                                    This is from the Material style's Button.qml:

                                    color: !control.enabled ? control.Material.hintTextColor :
                                                control.flat && control.highlighted ? control.Material.accentColor :
                                                control.highlighted ? control.Material.primaryHighlightedTextColor : control.Material.foreground
                                    
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                                      wrote on 26 Sept 2017, 04:11 last edited by
                                      #20

                                      Heh, actually the first version of my snipped used the question mark notation, but I changed it to if-else because I thought it would be more readable.

                                      It is definitely a good approach, and for simple cases I would recommend it - QML engine can optimize the question mark operator more heavily than if-else.

                                      (Z(:^

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                                        wrote on 26 Sept 2017, 06:21 last edited by
                                        #21

                                        hi
                                        oh my gosh, is that like a c++ ternary operator that can be nested ?
                                        But its not super readable unless really short.

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                                          wrote on 26 Sept 2017, 07:10 last edited by
                                          #22

                                          It's the same, a c++ ternary operator can be nested.

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