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  • R RahibeMeryem
    21 Nov 2019, 15:28

    @JonB

    yes there is directory and file as below.

    Linux path : file = "/Users/xxx/test dene biri/adf.jpg"
    
    

    QFile("/Users/xxx/test dene biri/adf.jpg") . gives error under ubuntu 19.

    I will double check tonight

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    KroMignon
    wrote on 21 Nov 2019, 16:14 last edited by
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    @RahibeMeryem said in file name change to unix file with escaping:

    yes there is directory and file as below.
    Linux path : file = "/Users/xxx/test dene biri/adf.jpg"

    QFile("/Users/xxx/test dene biri/adf.jpg") . gives error under ubuntu 19.

    On Linux/Unix systems, if you want to access to an user directory, it is preferable to use '~', for example for user foo: QFile("~foo/test dene biri/adf.jpg")

    I don't know if on macOS this is also working.

    It is an old maxim of mine that when you have excluded the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. (Sherlock Holmes)

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      wrote on 21 Nov 2019, 16:16 last edited by
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      @KroMignon that's a shell shortcut so it may or may not work depending on what you are doing.
      Using QStandardPaths would be better.

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        JonB
        wrote on 21 Nov 2019, 16:44 last edited by JonB
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        But I have asked and the OP confirmed:

        yes there is directory and file as below.

        Linux path : file = "/Users/xxx/test dene biri/adf.jpg"

        So he must have checked that on his Linux he has a /Users/..., for whatever reason. He says the issue is to do with the spaces.

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        • J JonB
          21 Nov 2019, 16:44

          But I have asked and the OP confirmed:

          yes there is directory and file as below.

          Linux path : file = "/Users/xxx/test dene biri/adf.jpg"

          So he must have checked that on his Linux he has a /Users/..., for whatever reason. He says the issue is to do with the spaces.

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          KroMignon
          wrote on 21 Nov 2019, 17:15 last edited by KroMignon
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          @JonB said in file name change to unix file with escaping:

          for whatever reason

          @RahibeMeryem Did you check if the application has read/excecute rights for each sub-directory?

          It is an old maxim of mine that when you have excluded the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. (Sherlock Holmes)

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          • K KroMignon
            21 Nov 2019, 17:15

            @JonB said in file name change to unix file with escaping:

            for whatever reason

            @RahibeMeryem Did you check if the application has read/excecute rights for each sub-directory?

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            JonB
            wrote on 21 Nov 2019, 17:22 last edited by
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            @KroMignon Why are you directing this question to me?

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            • R RahibeMeryem
              20 Nov 2019, 17:51

              Hi,

              I developed my app in Mac and when I transfer to the linux there is qfile file read problem due to some of the file and dirs has " " spaces.

              I try to QString.replace(" " , "\" ) and looks replaced .

              but even I saw the file name escaped with \ in linux , it says cant find the name.

              is there any best practices to change file name to readable format in linux ?

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              JonB
              wrote on 21 Nov 2019, 17:42 last edited by JonB
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              @RahibeMeryem
              OK, this is bugging me :) So here is a list of steps which will resolve where we are on this issue.

              If you know how to open a terminal/shell/command-prompt-window on Ubuntu:

              1. Open a terminal/shell/command-prompt-window. (Do not type sudo anything, if you might be tempted to.)
              2. Type ls -b /Users
              3. Then ls -b /Users/xxx, with whatever for the xxx
              4. Then ls -b /Users/xxx/test dene biri
              5. Finallyls -b /Users/xxx/test dene biri/adf.jpg
              6. If you really get as far as here without a "No such file or directory"-type error, type ls -l /Users/xxx/test dene biri/adf.jpg
              7. Copy the output you get as you go along and paste it here.

              If you do not know how to open a terminal:

              1. Open the "File Explorer" from its icon on the desktop
              2. Make it browse to the top-level root directory, named /.
              3. Go downwards into directories/folders for your path, i.e. Users, then whatever for the xxx, then test dene biri.
              4. Show us a screenshot (screenshot program, https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/screen-shot-record.html) of where you get to.

              P.S.
              I just noticed there is some confusion of whether the path has test dene bir or test dene biri (the extra i at the end) in some of these posts. I may have introduced that inadvertently. Obviously ensure both Mac & Linux code use whichever spelling is correct for you.

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                RahibeMeryem
                wrote on 22 Nov 2019, 08:56 last edited by
                #21

                @JonB @SGaist

                I found the STUPiD problem or a bug:

                one of my folder path include 'ü' . utf8 character with spaces.

                the 'ü' is different between mac os x and linux . in the linux ls -l look %100 identical but its not.

                so I create same folder name with linux 'ü' its working now.

                suprise.

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                • R RahibeMeryem
                  22 Nov 2019, 08:56

                  @JonB @SGaist

                  I found the STUPiD problem or a bug:

                  one of my folder path include 'ü' . utf8 character with spaces.

                  the 'ü' is different between mac os x and linux . in the linux ls -l look %100 identical but its not.

                  so I create same folder name with linux 'ü' its working now.

                  suprise.

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                  JonB
                  wrote on 22 Nov 2019, 09:59 last edited by JonB
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                  @RahibeMeryem

                  in the linux ls -l look %100 identical but its not.

                  That is precisely why you will see I suggested you use ls -b in all my examples, which I guess is how you spotted it....

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                  • J jsulm
                    21 Nov 2019, 10:26

                    @JonB said in file name change to unix file with escaping:

                    So you're going to say all of these are bad practice under Windows

                    Using existing system directories with spaces is not bad practice. But using own directories/file names with spaces (or umlauts) is at least questionable. I try to avoid this.

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                    wrote on 22 Nov 2019, 10:48 last edited by
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                    @RahibeMeryem said in file name change to unix file with escaping:

                    @JonB @SGaist

                    I found the STUPiD problem or a bug:

                    one of my folder path include 'ü' . utf8 character with spaces.

                    the 'ü' is different between mac os x and linux . in the linux ls -l look %100 identical but its not.

                    so I create same folder name with linux 'ü' its working now.

                    suprise.

                    Ah, we went full circle, let me quote:

                    @jsulm said in file name change to unix file with escaping:

                    @JonB said in file name change to unix file with escaping:

                    So you're going to say all of these are bad practice under Windows

                    Using existing system directories with spaces is not bad practice. But using own directories/file names with spaces (or umlauts) is at least questionable. I try to avoid this.


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                    • J J.Hilk
                      22 Nov 2019, 10:48

                      @RahibeMeryem said in file name change to unix file with escaping:

                      @JonB @SGaist

                      I found the STUPiD problem or a bug:

                      one of my folder path include 'ü' . utf8 character with spaces.

                      the 'ü' is different between mac os x and linux . in the linux ls -l look %100 identical but its not.

                      so I create same folder name with linux 'ü' its working now.

                      suprise.

                      Ah, we went full circle, let me quote:

                      @jsulm said in file name change to unix file with escaping:

                      @JonB said in file name change to unix file with escaping:

                      So you're going to say all of these are bad practice under Windows

                      Using existing system directories with spaces is not bad practice. But using own directories/file names with spaces (or umlauts) is at least questionable. I try to avoid this.

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                      JonB
                      wrote on 22 Nov 2019, 11:17 last edited by JonB
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                      @J-Hilk
                      For all we know he has no choice about directory spelling. E.g. if his user name contains an umlaut he types in, I would guess Linux creates his home directory based on this. Perhaps because this is "bad practice" we'd better tell Linux to change its ways.... Or, perhaps the user should change his real name to accommodate...

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                      • J JonB
                        22 Nov 2019, 11:17

                        @J-Hilk
                        For all we know he has no choice about directory spelling. E.g. if his user name contains an umlaut he types in, I would guess Linux creates his home directory based on this. Perhaps because this is "bad practice" we'd better tell Linux to change its ways.... Or, perhaps the user should change his real name to accommodate...

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                        wrote on 22 Nov 2019, 11:31 last edited by
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                        @JonB said in file name change to unix file with escaping:

                        Or, perhaps the user should change his real name to accommodate...

                        yep, that's what I did at my old work place,
                        ü -> ue


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                        • J J.Hilk
                          22 Nov 2019, 11:31

                          @JonB said in file name change to unix file with escaping:

                          Or, perhaps the user should change his real name to accommodate...

                          yep, that's what I did at my old work place,
                          ü -> ue

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                          artwaw
                          wrote on 22 Nov 2019, 11:36 last edited by
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                          @J-Hilk a bit OT but touches the good/bad practice part: in my workplace we have around 20 nationalities using 4 or 5 different alphabets. All the names and surnames in the sysaccounts/paths are transliterated to English exactly to avoid problems like that.

                          For more information please re-read.

                          Kind Regards,
                          Artur

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                            mpergand
                            wrote on 22 Nov 2019, 13:13 last edited by mpergand
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                            This vicious bug is due to the fact that Mac file system uses a special variant of unicode called decomposed form (NFD)
                            see https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/qa/qa1235/_index.html

                            However, you may need to convert to precomposed Unicode when you interact with other platforms.
                            For example, the following are all valid reasons why you might want to convert to precomposed Unicode:
                            -If you implement a network protocol which is defined to use precomposed Unicode.
                            -When creating a cross-platform file (or volume) whose specification dictates precomposed Unicode.
                            -If you incorporate a large body of cross-platform code into your application,
                            where that code is expecting precomposed Unicode.

                            For the same reason, if you're using C/C++ libraries that deal with file paths, it's advisable to use the following method for converting QString to *char:
                            [filePath.toNSString() fileSystemRepresentation];

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                            • S SGaist
                              21 Nov 2019, 16:16

                              @KroMignon that's a shell shortcut so it may or may not work depending on what you are doing.
                              Using QStandardPaths would be better.

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                              Kent-Dorfman
                              wrote on 24 Nov 2019, 23:36 last edited by
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                              @SGaist

                              @SGaist said in file name change to unix file with escaping:

                              @KroMignon that's a shell shortcut so it may or may not work depending on what you are doing.
                              Using QStandardPaths would be better.

                              Yes, tilde is a shell shortcut, so should only ever be used in immediate mode on the command line in shells that recognize it. Use anywhere else can and probably will fail to be interpreted properly.

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                              • K Kent-Dorfman
                                24 Nov 2019, 23:36

                                @SGaist

                                @SGaist said in file name change to unix file with escaping:

                                @KroMignon that's a shell shortcut so it may or may not work depending on what you are doing.
                                Using QStandardPaths would be better.

                                Yes, tilde is a shell shortcut, so should only ever be used in immediate mode on the command line in shells that recognize it. Use anywhere else can and probably will fail to be interpreted properly.

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                                JonB
                                wrote on 25 Nov 2019, 09:14 last edited by JonB
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                                @Kent-Dorfman
                                Hence @SGaist's comment that you would hardly ever want to construct a QFile("~...") anything. The only times would be for path-splitting function calls (even then be careful, e.g. Qt will think it's a relative path when in effect it's actually absolute), or to convert directly to string for passing to an OS command. Any other operations like trying to open it will not address the intended file (e.g. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2816499/why-cant-qfile-read-from-the-directory).

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