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    Kent-Dorfman
    wrote on 21 Nov 2019, 04:08 last edited by
    #5

    I'd suggest using perl to rename the files in question, replacing spaces with underscores...and as a I policy I prohibit folks from ever putting spaces in filenames. It's bad practice in any platform.

    #! /usr/bin/perl
    
    $q="\x22";
    
    while (<STDIN>) {
        chomp;
        $o=$_;
        s/[\x00-\x2a]//g;
        s/[\x5b-\x5e]//g;
        s/[\x7b-\x7f]//g;
        s/\x60//g;
        s/\x2f//g;
        ($_ ne $o) && system "mv $q$o$q $q$_$q\n";
    };
    
    

    then ls | remove_spaces.pl

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    • K Kent-Dorfman
      21 Nov 2019, 04:08

      I'd suggest using perl to rename the files in question, replacing spaces with underscores...and as a I policy I prohibit folks from ever putting spaces in filenames. It's bad practice in any platform.

      #! /usr/bin/perl
      
      $q="\x22";
      
      while (<STDIN>) {
          chomp;
          $o=$_;
          s/[\x00-\x2a]//g;
          s/[\x5b-\x5e]//g;
          s/[\x7b-\x7f]//g;
          s/\x60//g;
          s/\x2f//g;
          ($_ ne $o) && system "mv $q$o$q $q$_$q\n";
      };
      
      

      then ls | remove_spaces.pl

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      JonB
      wrote on 21 Nov 2019, 08:43 last edited by JonB
      #6

      @Kent-Dorfman

      • Why would you take a Mac name with spaces in it and replace for Linux? In the sense of the OP says the spaces "work" under MacOs but "don't work" under Linux? It may be a convention that Mac often has directories/files with spaces in their names (I don't know) whereas Linux tends not to, but that's a different matter.

      • as a I policy I prohibit folks from ever putting spaces in filenames. It's bad practice in any platform.

      Sorry, but that's just wrong [EDIT: IMHO] --- we may or may not like it, but Windows uses spaces extensively and it is not "bad practice" under Windows, it's standard practice! If your app chooses to prevent creating files with spaces that's up to you, but you can't call it "bad practice" under Windows :)

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        21 Nov 2019, 08:43

        @Kent-Dorfman

        • Why would you take a Mac name with spaces in it and replace for Linux? In the sense of the OP says the spaces "work" under MacOs but "don't work" under Linux? It may be a convention that Mac often has directories/files with spaces in their names (I don't know) whereas Linux tends not to, but that's a different matter.

        • as a I policy I prohibit folks from ever putting spaces in filenames. It's bad practice in any platform.

        Sorry, but that's just wrong [EDIT: IMHO] --- we may or may not like it, but Windows uses spaces extensively and it is not "bad practice" under Windows, it's standard practice! If your app chooses to prevent creating files with spaces that's up to you, but you can't call it "bad practice" under Windows :)

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        jsulm
        Lifetime Qt Champion
        wrote on 21 Nov 2019, 08:45 last edited by
        #7

        @JonB said in file name change to unix file with escaping:

        it's standard practice!

        and it causes many issues, you can find examples in this forum :-)
        That's why I avoid spaces in paths and suggest others to do the same.

        https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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          21 Nov 2019, 08:45

          @JonB said in file name change to unix file with escaping:

          it's standard practice!

          and it causes many issues, you can find examples in this forum :-)
          That's why I avoid spaces in paths and suggest others to do the same.

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          JonB
          wrote on 21 Nov 2019, 08:49 last edited by
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          @jsulm
          Yes it causes issues. The question is whether it is "bad practice" given that there a billions of Windows files around the world with spaces in them. Windows uses both directories & file names with spaces in them extensively, whether you or I like it or not. And I'll say one thing: your app may choose not to create thing with spaces because of the coding problems, but if you don't allow for existing things having spaces in them under Windows because you don't believe in it, that is where the problems will arise!

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          • J JonB
            21 Nov 2019, 08:49

            @jsulm
            Yes it causes issues. The question is whether it is "bad practice" given that there a billions of Windows files around the world with spaces in them. Windows uses both directories & file names with spaces in them extensively, whether you or I like it or not. And I'll say one thing: your app may choose not to create thing with spaces because of the coding problems, but if you don't allow for existing things having spaces in them under Windows because you don't believe in it, that is where the problems will arise!

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            J.Hilk
            Moderators
            wrote on 21 Nov 2019, 09:24 last edited by
            #9

            @JonB Hold the horses ;)

            Windows also allows you to have umlaute in the path/name, and that can cause even under windows problems.

            Just because Windows allows it doesn't mean its not bad practice.


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            • J J.Hilk
              21 Nov 2019, 09:24

              @JonB Hold the horses ;)

              Windows also allows you to have umlaute in the path/name, and that can cause even under windows problems.

              Just because Windows allows it doesn't mean its not bad practice.

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              JonB
              wrote on 21 Nov 2019, 09:41 last edited by
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              @J-Hilk
              I admit I don't know about umlauts.

              Under Windows, if you don't want to deal with spaces in path/file names, try accepting the default save file name from a new Word document, or try Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V from File Explorer, or try right-click New>Folder, or try executing anything from standard C:\Program Files\... from the command line, or use the standard Save File dialog to get a name from the user, or a million other cases.

              So you're going to say all of these are bad practice under Windows. I don't think we'll get anywhere, because we must have different definitions of "bad practice".

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                21 Nov 2019, 09:41

                @J-Hilk
                I admit I don't know about umlauts.

                Under Windows, if you don't want to deal with spaces in path/file names, try accepting the default save file name from a new Word document, or try Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V from File Explorer, or try right-click New>Folder, or try executing anything from standard C:\Program Files\... from the command line, or use the standard Save File dialog to get a name from the user, or a million other cases.

                So you're going to say all of these are bad practice under Windows. I don't think we'll get anywhere, because we must have different definitions of "bad practice".

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                jsulm
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                wrote on 21 Nov 2019, 10:26 last edited by
                #11

                @JonB said in file name change to unix file with escaping:

                So you're going to say all of these are bad practice under Windows

                Using existing system directories with spaces is not bad practice. But using own directories/file names with spaces (or umlauts) is at least questionable. I try to avoid this.

                https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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                  RahibeMeryem
                  wrote on 21 Nov 2019, 15:28 last edited by
                  #12

                  @JonB

                  yes there is directory and file as below.

                  Linux path : file = "/Users/xxx/test dene biri/adf.jpg"
                  
                  

                  QFile("/Users/xxx/test dene biri/adf.jpg") . gives error under ubuntu 19.

                  I will double check tonight

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                  • R RahibeMeryem
                    21 Nov 2019, 15:28

                    @JonB

                    yes there is directory and file as below.

                    Linux path : file = "/Users/xxx/test dene biri/adf.jpg"
                    
                    

                    QFile("/Users/xxx/test dene biri/adf.jpg") . gives error under ubuntu 19.

                    I will double check tonight

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                    JonB
                    wrote on 21 Nov 2019, 15:34 last edited by JonB
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                    @RahibeMeryem
                    My Ubuntu 19.04, I have to use Python+PySide2 instead of C++ but no matter:

                    (py37) jon@ubuntu-19:~$ mkdir "test space"
                    (py37) jon@ubuntu-19:~$ echo hello > "test space/file"
                    (py37) jon@ubuntu-19:~$ python3
                    Python 3.7.3 | packaged by conda-forge | (default, Jul  1 2019, 21:52:21) 
                    [GCC 7.3.0] :: Anaconda, Inc. on linux
                    Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
                    >>> from PySide2.QtCore import QFile
                    >>> print(QFile("test space/file").exists())
                    True
                    >>> print(QFile("test space/file").size())
                    6
                    >>> print(hex(int(QFile("test space/file").permissions())))
                    0x6644
                    >>> 
                    
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                    • R RahibeMeryem
                      21 Nov 2019, 15:28

                      @JonB

                      yes there is directory and file as below.

                      Linux path : file = "/Users/xxx/test dene biri/adf.jpg"
                      
                      

                      QFile("/Users/xxx/test dene biri/adf.jpg") . gives error under ubuntu 19.

                      I will double check tonight

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                      Lifetime Qt Champion
                      wrote on 21 Nov 2019, 16:08 last edited by SGaist
                      #14

                      @RahibeMeryem said in file name change to unix file with escaping:

                      @JonB

                      yes there is directory and file as below.

                      Linux path : file = "/Users/xxx/test dene biri/adf.jpg"
                      
                      

                      QFile("/Users/xxx/test dene biri/adf.jpg") . gives error under ubuntu 19.

                      I will double check tonight

                      Hi,

                      Maybe because there's no /Users folder on Linux.

                      The home folder for users under Linux is /home.

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                      • R RahibeMeryem
                        21 Nov 2019, 15:28

                        @JonB

                        yes there is directory and file as below.

                        Linux path : file = "/Users/xxx/test dene biri/adf.jpg"
                        
                        

                        QFile("/Users/xxx/test dene biri/adf.jpg") . gives error under ubuntu 19.

                        I will double check tonight

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                        KroMignon
                        wrote on 21 Nov 2019, 16:14 last edited by
                        #15

                        @RahibeMeryem said in file name change to unix file with escaping:

                        yes there is directory and file as below.
                        Linux path : file = "/Users/xxx/test dene biri/adf.jpg"

                        QFile("/Users/xxx/test dene biri/adf.jpg") . gives error under ubuntu 19.

                        On Linux/Unix systems, if you want to access to an user directory, it is preferable to use '~', for example for user foo: QFile("~foo/test dene biri/adf.jpg")

                        I don't know if on macOS this is also working.

                        It is an old maxim of mine that when you have excluded the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. (Sherlock Holmes)

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                          SGaist
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                          wrote on 21 Nov 2019, 16:16 last edited by
                          #16

                          @KroMignon that's a shell shortcut so it may or may not work depending on what you are doing.
                          Using QStandardPaths would be better.

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                            JonB
                            wrote on 21 Nov 2019, 16:44 last edited by JonB
                            #17

                            But I have asked and the OP confirmed:

                            yes there is directory and file as below.

                            Linux path : file = "/Users/xxx/test dene biri/adf.jpg"

                            So he must have checked that on his Linux he has a /Users/..., for whatever reason. He says the issue is to do with the spaces.

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                              21 Nov 2019, 16:44

                              But I have asked and the OP confirmed:

                              yes there is directory and file as below.

                              Linux path : file = "/Users/xxx/test dene biri/adf.jpg"

                              So he must have checked that on his Linux he has a /Users/..., for whatever reason. He says the issue is to do with the spaces.

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                              KroMignon
                              wrote on 21 Nov 2019, 17:15 last edited by KroMignon
                              #18

                              @JonB said in file name change to unix file with escaping:

                              for whatever reason

                              @RahibeMeryem Did you check if the application has read/excecute rights for each sub-directory?

                              It is an old maxim of mine that when you have excluded the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. (Sherlock Holmes)

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                              • K KroMignon
                                21 Nov 2019, 17:15

                                @JonB said in file name change to unix file with escaping:

                                for whatever reason

                                @RahibeMeryem Did you check if the application has read/excecute rights for each sub-directory?

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                                JonB
                                wrote on 21 Nov 2019, 17:22 last edited by
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                                @KroMignon Why are you directing this question to me?

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                                • R RahibeMeryem
                                  20 Nov 2019, 17:51

                                  Hi,

                                  I developed my app in Mac and when I transfer to the linux there is qfile file read problem due to some of the file and dirs has " " spaces.

                                  I try to QString.replace(" " , "\" ) and looks replaced .

                                  but even I saw the file name escaped with \ in linux , it says cant find the name.

                                  is there any best practices to change file name to readable format in linux ?

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                                  JonB
                                  wrote on 21 Nov 2019, 17:42 last edited by JonB
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                                  @RahibeMeryem
                                  OK, this is bugging me :) So here is a list of steps which will resolve where we are on this issue.

                                  If you know how to open a terminal/shell/command-prompt-window on Ubuntu:

                                  1. Open a terminal/shell/command-prompt-window. (Do not type sudo anything, if you might be tempted to.)
                                  2. Type ls -b /Users
                                  3. Then ls -b /Users/xxx, with whatever for the xxx
                                  4. Then ls -b /Users/xxx/test dene biri
                                  5. Finallyls -b /Users/xxx/test dene biri/adf.jpg
                                  6. If you really get as far as here without a "No such file or directory"-type error, type ls -l /Users/xxx/test dene biri/adf.jpg
                                  7. Copy the output you get as you go along and paste it here.

                                  If you do not know how to open a terminal:

                                  1. Open the "File Explorer" from its icon on the desktop
                                  2. Make it browse to the top-level root directory, named /.
                                  3. Go downwards into directories/folders for your path, i.e. Users, then whatever for the xxx, then test dene biri.
                                  4. Show us a screenshot (screenshot program, https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/screen-shot-record.html) of where you get to.

                                  P.S.
                                  I just noticed there is some confusion of whether the path has test dene bir or test dene biri (the extra i at the end) in some of these posts. I may have introduced that inadvertently. Obviously ensure both Mac & Linux code use whichever spelling is correct for you.

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                                    RahibeMeryem
                                    wrote on 22 Nov 2019, 08:56 last edited by
                                    #21

                                    @JonB @SGaist

                                    I found the STUPiD problem or a bug:

                                    one of my folder path include 'ü' . utf8 character with spaces.

                                    the 'ü' is different between mac os x and linux . in the linux ls -l look %100 identical but its not.

                                    so I create same folder name with linux 'ü' its working now.

                                    suprise.

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                                      22 Nov 2019, 08:56

                                      @JonB @SGaist

                                      I found the STUPiD problem or a bug:

                                      one of my folder path include 'ü' . utf8 character with spaces.

                                      the 'ü' is different between mac os x and linux . in the linux ls -l look %100 identical but its not.

                                      so I create same folder name with linux 'ü' its working now.

                                      suprise.

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                                      JonB
                                      wrote on 22 Nov 2019, 09:59 last edited by JonB
                                      #22

                                      @RahibeMeryem

                                      in the linux ls -l look %100 identical but its not.

                                      That is precisely why you will see I suggested you use ls -b in all my examples, which I guess is how you spotted it....

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                                        21 Nov 2019, 10:26

                                        @JonB said in file name change to unix file with escaping:

                                        So you're going to say all of these are bad practice under Windows

                                        Using existing system directories with spaces is not bad practice. But using own directories/file names with spaces (or umlauts) is at least questionable. I try to avoid this.

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                                        J.Hilk
                                        Moderators
                                        wrote on 22 Nov 2019, 10:48 last edited by
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                                        @RahibeMeryem said in file name change to unix file with escaping:

                                        @JonB @SGaist

                                        I found the STUPiD problem or a bug:

                                        one of my folder path include 'ü' . utf8 character with spaces.

                                        the 'ü' is different between mac os x and linux . in the linux ls -l look %100 identical but its not.

                                        so I create same folder name with linux 'ü' its working now.

                                        suprise.

                                        Ah, we went full circle, let me quote:

                                        @jsulm said in file name change to unix file with escaping:

                                        @JonB said in file name change to unix file with escaping:

                                        So you're going to say all of these are bad practice under Windows

                                        Using existing system directories with spaces is not bad practice. But using own directories/file names with spaces (or umlauts) is at least questionable. I try to avoid this.


                                        Be aware of the Qt Code of Conduct, when posting : https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct


                                        Q: What's that?
                                        A: It's blue light.
                                        Q: What does it do?
                                        A: It turns blue.

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                                          22 Nov 2019, 10:48

                                          @RahibeMeryem said in file name change to unix file with escaping:

                                          @JonB @SGaist

                                          I found the STUPiD problem or a bug:

                                          one of my folder path include 'ü' . utf8 character with spaces.

                                          the 'ü' is different between mac os x and linux . in the linux ls -l look %100 identical but its not.

                                          so I create same folder name with linux 'ü' its working now.

                                          suprise.

                                          Ah, we went full circle, let me quote:

                                          @jsulm said in file name change to unix file with escaping:

                                          @JonB said in file name change to unix file with escaping:

                                          So you're going to say all of these are bad practice under Windows

                                          Using existing system directories with spaces is not bad practice. But using own directories/file names with spaces (or umlauts) is at least questionable. I try to avoid this.

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                                          JonB
                                          wrote on 22 Nov 2019, 11:17 last edited by JonB
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                                          @J-Hilk
                                          For all we know he has no choice about directory spelling. E.g. if his user name contains an umlaut he types in, I would guess Linux creates his home directory based on this. Perhaps because this is "bad practice" we'd better tell Linux to change its ways.... Or, perhaps the user should change his real name to accommodate...

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