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  • P Pierre-Emmanuel
    9 Jan 2025, 11:43

    Hi JonB,

    Thank you for helping me !

    Indeed, I am not really able to understand the difference between linking and loading libraries.

    According to what you wrote, I had a look in the matlab folder to search for .lib files and I found one associated to libmat and libmx dlls. The libraries folder looks like this (the .pro file did not change):
    366d008a-dd1f-4e51-afaa-61e15dd8f369-image.png

    I can compile, but when I try to run the application, I got new error messages:
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    I re added them to the libraries folder from the matlab folder, but I could not find the associated .lib files. And this time when I try to run the application again, I got the error code as before: 0xc000007b.

    But the dlls are coming from the win64 folder, so they are definitely not 32bit.

    When you say "manipulate your PATH accordingly" is it the system PATH or something related to Qt Creator ?

    Have a nice day,
    Pierre-Emmanuel

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    wrote on 9 Jan 2025, 11:49 last edited by JonB 1 Sept 2025, 11:52
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    @Pierre-Emmanuel
    I can only say what I said before: .lib files are sought at link time, .dll files at runtime. They don't have to be in the same folder. Your .pro file and LIBS += ... says where to search for .lib files at link time, your PATH environment variable (plus the executable directory) says where to search for .dll files. If it links successfully but fails at runtime you can forget about .lib files and look at .dll files, if it fails to link the reverse is the case. If it's generating a runtime error then look through directories in PATH in order to see where it is picking a DLL file from. If that picks up the wrong one then you must either alter PATH to remove that directory or change it to find the right one in an earlier directory on PATH.

    If you say error 0xc000007b occurs when there is a 32-/64-bit mismatch then somewhere a 16-bit DLL is being picked up.

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      wrote on 9 Jan 2025, 20:04 last edited by
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      Just one point that might sound silly: the fact that the folder is named win64 should just be taken as a hint. I would double check that its content really is 64 bit.

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        9 Jan 2025, 20:04

        Just one point that might sound silly: the fact that the folder is named win64 should just be taken as a hint. I would double check that its content really is 64 bit.

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        wrote on 9 Jan 2025, 20:05 last edited by
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        @SGaist Wow, if that's the case..! :)

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          Pierre-Emmanuel
          wrote on 10 Jan 2025, 09:06 last edited by Pierre-Emmanuel 1 Oct 2025, 09:08
          #11

          Hi guys,

          I tried many things yesterday !

          First, in the libraries folder there is only the needed .lib files.

          Then, I added one after the other the missing dlls in the folder where the executable is generated until I get the error code 0xc000007b:
          48aee9a4-24ec-4bb7-9be0-50541589764c-image.png

          The for each, I check if they are 32-bits or 64-bits dlls using a git bash:
          c39744d7-1b69-46d8-a4aa-c30052718628-image.png

          I don't really know how to interpret the PE32+.. Maybe it is 32-bits dll and that would explain why I can't load ?

          I compared with the dlls I was using before migrating to a 64-bits toolchain:
          b6a1f716-04b7-4bdd-8848-4fd6b14a1bb4-image.png

          Does it means something to you ?

          I also modified my PATH environment variable like this:
          bad9b4ff-7614-47be-935e-84ca873e6310-image.png

          Have a nice day,
          Pierre-Emmanuel

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            JonB
            wrote on 10 Jan 2025, 09:31 last edited by
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            PE32+ looks right for 64-bit.
            What exact error message do you get at runtime now? Do you get any clue as to why/where/on what it is happening, like mentioning a DLL it cannot load? If you run it from a debugger do you maybe get any better information?
            You may have to download and use something like https://github.com/lucasg/Dependencies to examine your .exe/each of the .dlls to discover if there is any 32-bit somewhere. It might be on some DLL indirectly required by another DLL.

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              Pierre-Emmanuel
              wrote on 10 Jan 2025, 09:53 last edited by Pierre-Emmanuel 1 Oct 2025, 10:00
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              Hi JonB,

              The error popup I got is the following:

              image.png

              It does not help at all..

              Good idea to try to execute it with the debugger ! This is what I got:
              image.png

              It's very strange.. It looks like Qt (or Qt Creator) is looking for a file on a different branch (which completely out of the project main folder) of the same project.. But in the .pro file, it is referring only to files in the project.

              It would be easier if I share the content of the .pro file. I should have done earlier.

              04cd58b5-bdf6-447b-b7fd-d4a3d02729ba-image.png
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              062d5366-2bff-46b1-bf75-a22fd010f6ec-image.png
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              Obviously, I am cleaning and rebuilding each time I am trying something new.

              I also has a look at the .pro.user file but there is no reference to "CAN Converter model clone/branches/CAN-4_lbf_asc_extension_support"

              Have a nice day,
              Pierre-Emmanuel

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              • P Pierre-Emmanuel
                10 Jan 2025, 09:53

                Hi JonB,

                The error popup I got is the following:

                image.png

                It does not help at all..

                Good idea to try to execute it with the debugger ! This is what I got:
                image.png

                It's very strange.. It looks like Qt (or Qt Creator) is looking for a file on a different branch (which completely out of the project main folder) of the same project.. But in the .pro file, it is referring only to files in the project.

                It would be easier if I share the content of the .pro file. I should have done earlier.

                04cd58b5-bdf6-447b-b7fd-d4a3d02729ba-image.png
                c8693d10-9bdb-4183-8437-5ee32d1d95c0-image.png
                062d5366-2bff-46b1-bf75-a22fd010f6ec-image.png
                4195b43f-206c-45e5-923c-1891e936042a-image.png

                Obviously, I am cleaning and rebuilding each time I am trying something new.

                I also has a look at the .pro.user file but there is no reference to "CAN Converter model clone/branches/CAN-4_lbf_asc_extension_support"

                Have a nice day,
                Pierre-Emmanuel

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                wrote on 10 Jan 2025, 10:25 last edited by JonB 1 Oct 2025, 10:41
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                @Pierre-Emmanuel
                Not sure what this tells us. I think the second error message screenshot is not from the "failure to load" some DLL itself but rather the debugger is trying to fetch the source file for where some error occurred and cannot locate the .cpp source file it wants somewhere inside whatever CAN stuff is all about.

                I am not a Windows expert so not sure how you proceed. I would probably have a go with the https://github.com/lucasg/Dependencies tool I mentioned to examine the EXE/DLL files I have for their dependencies to see if I could spot something wrong/16-bit. It's probably a good tool to get compiled and working for Windows development in general, so worth spending a few minutes on.

                P.S.
                You could Google matlab 0xc000007b. Something like https://stackoverflow.com/questions/6458271/matlab-engine-windows-7-problem says

                This error is likely due to incorrect installation or multiple installations of Matlab on your machine. Check your Windows %PATH% environment variable [...]

                Since you used to work with 32-bit matlab perhaps some vestige of this is left around and on your PATH. Check what is in the R2022b\runtime\win64 directory, but also what is in R2022b\bin. Do you need that, or could you remove that? You might try removing both of those from your PATH and resort to copying DLLs one by one from directories to the directory of your executable while you figure out what what exactly it needs to run.

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                  Pierre-Emmanuel
                  wrote on 10 Jan 2025, 10:54 last edited by Pierre-Emmanuel 1 Oct 2025, 11:00
                  #15

                  I used the dependencies program to check my application,

                  The first time I got missing dll from Qt6 so I updated the system PATH to have C:\Qt\6.8.1\mingw_64\bin. It fixed all missing dlls related to Qt but still some of them are missing, which seems to be related to Windows:

                  ext-ms-win-oobe-query-11-1-0.dll
                  ext-ms-win32-subsystem-query-11-1-0.dll
                  HvsiFileTrust.dll

                  There is some other missing, which seems to be related to matlab:

                  libmwfl.dll
                  libmwi18n.dll
                  libut.dll
                  libmwcppmicroservices.dll
                  mwboost_log-vc142-mt-x64-1_75.dll
                  CppMicroServices3.dll
                  hdf5-1.8.dll
                  icuuc69.dll

                  I will add them manually.

                  I will also uninstall old matlab version I am not using anymore and see if it change something.

                  Have a nice day,
                  Pierre-Emmanuel

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                  • P Pierre-Emmanuel
                    10 Jan 2025, 10:54

                    I used the dependencies program to check my application,

                    The first time I got missing dll from Qt6 so I updated the system PATH to have C:\Qt\6.8.1\mingw_64\bin. It fixed all missing dlls related to Qt but still some of them are missing, which seems to be related to Windows:

                    ext-ms-win-oobe-query-11-1-0.dll
                    ext-ms-win32-subsystem-query-11-1-0.dll
                    HvsiFileTrust.dll

                    There is some other missing, which seems to be related to matlab:

                    libmwfl.dll
                    libmwi18n.dll
                    libut.dll
                    libmwcppmicroservices.dll
                    mwboost_log-vc142-mt-x64-1_75.dll
                    CppMicroServices3.dll
                    hdf5-1.8.dll
                    icuuc69.dll

                    I will add them manually.

                    I will also uninstall old matlab version I am not using anymore and see if it change something.

                    Have a nice day,
                    Pierre-Emmanuel

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                    wrote on 10 Jan 2025, 11:02 last edited by JonB 1 Oct 2025, 11:05
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                    @Pierre-Emmanuel
                    I will just say you may be disappearing down a rabbit hole. I think some of these might be "false negatives" reported by the tool, e.g. see https://www.reddit.com/r/AskProgramming/comments/xxzpfk/reputable_sources_for_missing_dlls/ has a couple of yours, I don't know.

                    Maybe it's time for you to find a matlab forum and ask for help/clues/pointers there for whatever your issue is?

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                      Pierre-Emmanuel
                      wrote on 10 Jan 2025, 11:13 last edited by
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                      I think it is yes,

                      Thank you JonB and SGaist for helping me.

                      I will keep posting here if I have more details or more founding !

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                        wrote on 10 Jan 2025, 20:38 last edited by
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                        What I would do is to empty the PATH environnement variable in Qt Creator and add yourself what is required for your application to work so it only contains entries pertinent to your application just to be sure there's no other DLLs found beside the ones your really need.

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                          wrote on 20 Jan 2025, 10:23 last edited by
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                          Hi SGaist,

                          Sorry I come back to this topic quite late.
                          I asked the question HERE on the matlab forum.

                          I have tried clearing the PATH environment variable from Qt Creator by checking "Clear System environment" checkbox:
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                          But then I got new issues to build the app like:
                          1e67a33d-b2c1-4c89-b383-f26c17b8e439-image.png

                          I guess I need to keep some environment variables ?

                          Thank you for you help,
                          Have a nice day,

                          Pierre-Emmanuel

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                          • P Pierre-Emmanuel
                            20 Jan 2025, 10:23

                            Hi SGaist,

                            Sorry I come back to this topic quite late.
                            I asked the question HERE on the matlab forum.

                            I have tried clearing the PATH environment variable from Qt Creator by checking "Clear System environment" checkbox:
                            921a43d2-333e-4139-9414-a15cc8271a18-image.png

                            But then I got new issues to build the app like:
                            1e67a33d-b2c1-4c89-b383-f26c17b8e439-image.png

                            I guess I need to keep some environment variables ?

                            Thank you for you help,
                            Have a nice day,

                            Pierre-Emmanuel

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                            jsulm
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                            wrote on 20 Jan 2025, 10:26 last edited by
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                            @Pierre-Emmanuel said in Qt 64 bits application:

                            by checking "Clear System environment" checkbox

                            Why? Only change PATH, nothing else.

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                              Pierre-Emmanuel
                              wrote on 20 Jan 2025, 10:56 last edited by
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                              I have found it !!!!!

                              Thank you @jsulm for this info, it solved the new problems I was facing !

                              The problem was coming from the fact that Qt Creator does not search recursively in the folders.

                              In the PATH environment variable, I had the following path <matlab_folder>\R2022b\bin registered. But the missing dlls were in <matlab_folder>\R2022b\bin\win64 ...

                              Once I updated the PATH in Qt Creator, I could run the application as before !!

                              Thank you very much guys, you all have been of great help !

                              On my side the problem is solved, I will also update the matlab forum.

                              Have a very good week,
                              Pierre-Emmanuel

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                                20 Jan 2025, 10:56

                                I have found it !!!!!

                                Thank you @jsulm for this info, it solved the new problems I was facing !

                                The problem was coming from the fact that Qt Creator does not search recursively in the folders.

                                In the PATH environment variable, I had the following path <matlab_folder>\R2022b\bin registered. But the missing dlls were in <matlab_folder>\R2022b\bin\win64 ...

                                Once I updated the PATH in Qt Creator, I could run the application as before !!

                                Thank you very much guys, you all have been of great help !

                                On my side the problem is solved, I will also update the matlab forum.

                                Have a very good week,
                                Pierre-Emmanuel

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                                wrote on 20 Jan 2025, 11:02 last edited by
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                                @Pierre-Emmanuel Glad you found out but it has nothing to do with Qt Creator, that's how the PATH environment variable works on Windows.

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                                  Pierre-Emmanuel
                                  wrote on 20 Jan 2025, 12:33 last edited by
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                                  Maybe or maybe not ?

                                  I mean, I had something working with Qt 5.15 (I don't remember Qt Creator version at that moment), I did not change my PATH environment variable, and when I upgraded to Qt 6.8.1, it was not working anymore.

                                  I thought Qt would search recursively in the folders registered in the PATH and I was wrong.

                                  Thank you for your help,

                                  Have a nice day,
                                  Pierre-Emmanuel

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                                  • P Pierre-Emmanuel
                                    20 Jan 2025, 12:33

                                    Maybe or maybe not ?

                                    I mean, I had something working with Qt 5.15 (I don't remember Qt Creator version at that moment), I did not change my PATH environment variable, and when I upgraded to Qt 6.8.1, it was not working anymore.

                                    I thought Qt would search recursively in the folders registered in the PATH and I was wrong.

                                    Thank you for your help,

                                    Have a nice day,
                                    Pierre-Emmanuel

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                                    JonB
                                    wrote on 20 Jan 2025, 12:59 last edited by JonB
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                                    @Pierre-Emmanuel said in Qt 64 bits application:

                                    Maybe or maybe not ?

                                    Not "maybe". Creator (nor Qt itself) has nothing to do with runtime searching for libraries/DLLs for an executable. That is done by the OS/Windows, and that requires them to be found on either PATH or in the same directory as the executable. This would also be the case if you ran your program quite outside of Creator. No OS searches PATH recursively (would be too slow and too dangerous). So something has changed between your Qt5/6 or its environment.

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