Features of QT IDE to be improved



  • hi

    this is my 1st post, i m very thankful to QT team, since they have provided such a gud framework. i m using it from my last 3 months. it is easy to work in QT.

    but i think the QT IDE is not so much robust and dynamic like Microsoft Visual studio, like searching a word in whole project.....

    i think there should be choice of toolbars, so i can easily save, comment etc. i also say that there not very good feature for debugging an application..... may u can work upon to improve it.

    thanks



  • Hi pushpendrak,

    Welcome to QtDN :)

    [quote author="pushpendrak" date="1285432391"] ... like searching a word in whole project.....

    i think there should be choice of toolbars, so i can easily save, comment etc. i also say that there not very good feature for debugging an application..... may u can work upon to improve it.
    [/quote]

    Creator is continuously improving and I'm sure you'll see many more great features come in soon :)
    For searching a word in the whole project, the advanced find was recently introduced.. try the shortcut CTRL+SHIFT+F



  • hi sir,

    very very thanx to you, u told me otherwise i never tried for it, i was using other app for this.

    is there any setting or option so i can access these things through toolbar or some sidebar.........

    again thnx



  • [quote author="pushpendrak" date="1285501873"]hi sir,
    very very thanx to you, u told me otherwise i never tried for it, i was using other app for this. is there any setting or option so i can access these things through toolbar or some sidebar.........
    again thnx[/quote]

    In the creator, if you go to the Windows menu, you will the set of features currently available and some (disabled for now), which I think will come in soon. The side bar has debug mode, project mode etc... You will soon get used to how things work here and won't find any issue in terms of productivity. A very handy and customizable toolbar is something even I'd like to see :)

    Also, if you have some ideas or suggestions for enhancements, you can log an enhancement request in Jira for Qt Creator project "here":http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/. But first search to see whether somebody has already logged it.

    ps: no calling "sir" pls, address by the name :)



  • In my opinion QtCreator is robust. I wouldn’t call Visual Studio robust but bloated :P. No distracting toolbars, QtCreator is about the code! And QT != Qt(just a side note)



  • [quote author="kkrzewniak" date="1285517969"]I wouldn’t call Visual Studio robust but bloated :P[/quote]

    :P heh heh



  • I just don't like Visual Studio. Had to use it, didn't like it. Too big, too slow, to complex, simply not agile enough.



  • It would be interesting to hear feedback about programming in Qt using Eclipse, compared to Qt Creator



  • I've used Eclipse for KDE development a couple of years ago.

    It is full-fledged IDE and has quite a few nice extensions. Nice code completion, debugging, versioning systems support etc. I've missed only one thing in it - speed. And that was the reason I abandoned IDEs altogether.

    Qt Creator is the first modern non-beta-software IDE [1] that doesn't feel like swimming upstream most of the time. My first impression about QtCreator was that it feels like a toy (sometime during pre 1.0) but later it turned out to be a toy like Lego Mindstorms - fun to use, but not limiting.

    Mind that this was a comment from someone who hasn't used a conventional IDE for any real work for a very long time - I've tested QtC for the fun of it, and I don't really remember all the goodies and quirks of Eclipse I used to know.

    --

    [1] Excluding KDevelop as not yet released software



  • I also like QtCreator and use it for writing project but for debugging I still use Microsoft Visual studio, because it's faster:(



  • yeah same thing i want to say that visual studio is bloated, still it has nice features and settings user friendly (may be bcoz i m using it from 4 years). debugging is very very helpful and fast.

    i've tried eclipse once but, there are so many settings confused at all. back to visual std/QtCreator.


  • Moderators

    pushpendrak: Sorry, there will be no toolbars in creator! Please use the Menus to discover functionality... in time you will more and more use the keyboard shortcuts and not notice the "missing" toolbars anymore:-)

    chetankjain: If something is greyed out in Creator then that means the functionality is not available right now. It is implemented and available in other situations (e.g. when you are using a different version control system for your code, etc.). We do not put stubs into the menus, so please "report a bug":http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/ if something is not available when you think it should be.



  • Tobias, tried a few things, but can you point me how to get "Tools->Bookmarks" enabled ... sorry if very basic question ...


  • Moderators

    The menu entry becomes active once at least one bookmark is set. Just click anywhere in the bar before your text (where the breakpoints are displayed) and do "Toggle Bookmark".

    The Bookmark menu does contain an entry to "toggle bookmark", so it should actually be always active (when you can toggle a bookmark). Could you please write "a bug report":http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/ about this? Thanks!



  • Just logged "this":http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTCREATORBUG-2468

    My feel is there should be some differentiation between source code bookmarks and help doc bookmarks. Naming both as bookmarks and having slightly different behavior in creator is confusing ... of course one will get used to it very soon :)


  • Moderators

    Code navigation works so well for me that I hardly ever used bookmarks so far:-)



  • How i can collapse all functions and conditional block in one command?



  • This option is there in Edit->Advanced menu, but by default no shortcut is associated.
    You can associate your shortcut from Tools->Options->Environment->Keyboard

    works just fine :)


  • Moderators

    Which features are you actually missing from Visual Studio? The "Find word in project" one is there, so maybe some of your other wishlist items can be found for you, too:-)

    Where is Creator less robust than Visual Studio? Did you experience any crashes? What is less dynamic about Creator?



  • oh yes, works fine.

    thanx a lot again, chetan.

    yes it is very dynamic, but accessibility is not so dynamic.. it's good it has short keys, but people don't remember all. if it is provided with contextmenu it will be too gud.

    other thing i want to know if it is possible to see the class structure in side bar (for navigation and view)?


  • Moderators

    It is available in the upcoming Qt Creator 2.1. Check out "the snapshots":ftp://ftp.qt.nokia.com/qtcreator/snapshots/ for an glance at all the new functionality:-)



  • IMHO having lots and lots of toolbars, toolbuttons it just distracting if You reali need to use a feature and You use it fequentyl You will remember the shortcut. And again as I understand it QtCreators GUI is code focused so no useless thing can distract You from the code (and I love it exactly for being so clean).



  • I love it too for its simplicity and fastness and cleanliness. :)


  • Moderators

    pushpendrak: Qt Creator's target audience is developers who often spend several hours a day working inside the tool. I personally think it makes more sense to aim for speed and convenience of use (using keyboard shortcuts, etc.) instead of discoverability.

    And features are not hidden either: They are in the menus after all.



  • yeah great, thnx. i agree

    i just downloaded new snapshot of 2.1 creator last night. it got more syntax highlighting, and options/menus



  • [quote author="pushpendrak" date="1285598709"]oh yes, works fine. thanx a lot again, chetan.
    [/quote]

    ah the credit should go to Tobias and other Trolls who actually are providing us this wonderful tool :)


  • Moderators

    chetankjain: I am a new guy, so I did not do that much to create Creator yet:-) But I will gladly pass on the praise.



  • I got feedback that, Qt doesn't have any plan to put toolbar in QtCreator. i mean there should be an option atleast with file operations, or file operation adding to sidebar.



  • i want to purchase Qt license, should i wait for new version like something 5.0....?
    or 4.7 license will work for later versions too.

    if any body have some idea of pricing for multiple plateforms. (INDIA INR)


  • Moderators

    pushpendrak: Check the "shop":http://shop.qt.nokia.com/en/product-licenses.html for pricing information. The trolls here tend to be developers and most are not really aware of the current pricing schemes (at least I am not:-). Depending on what you want to do you may even be able to use the open source license, so you might want to check that first.

    Since I am not aware of any Qt 5 related planning can not tell you whether it makes sense to wait for it or not.


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