Features of QT IDE to be improved

pushpendrak · wrote on 25 Sept 2010, 16:33

hi

this is my 1st post, i m very thankful to QT team, since they have provided such a gud framework. i m using it from my last 3 months. it is easy to work in QT.

but i think the QT IDE is not so much robust and dynamic like Microsoft Visual studio, like searching a word in whole project.....

i think there should be choice of toolbars, so i can easily save, comment etc. i also say that there not very good feature for debugging an application..... may u can work upon to improve it.

thanks

? This user is from outside of this forum · wrote on 25 Sept 2010, 16:50

Hi pushpendrak,

Welcome to QtDN :)

[quote author="pushpendrak" date="1285432391"] ... like searching a word in whole project.....

i think there should be choice of toolbars, so i can easily save, comment etc. i also say that there not very good feature for debugging an application..... may u can work upon to improve it.
[/quote]

Creator is continuously improving and I'm sure you'll see many more great features come in soon :)
For searching a word in the whole project, the advanced find was recently introduced.. try the shortcut CTRL+SHIFT+F

pushpendrak · wrote on 26 Sept 2010, 11:51

hi sir,

very very thanx to you, u told me otherwise i never tried for it, i was using other app for this.

is there any setting or option so i can access these things through toolbar or some sidebar.........

again thnx

? This user is from outside of this forum · wrote on 26 Sept 2010, 12:19

[quote author="pushpendrak" date="1285501873"]hi sir,
very very thanx to you, u told me otherwise i never tried for it, i was using other app for this. is there any setting or option so i can access these things through toolbar or some sidebar.........
again thnx[/quote]

In the creator, if you go to the Windows menu, you will the set of features currently available and some (disabled for now), which I think will come in soon. The side bar has debug mode, project mode etc... You will soon get used to how things work here and won't find any issue in terms of productivity. A very handy and customizable toolbar is something even I'd like to see :)

Also, if you have some ideas or suggestions for enhancements, you can log an enhancement request in Jira for Qt Creator project "here":http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/. But first search to see whether somebody has already logged it.

ps: no calling "sir" pls, address by the name :)

kkrzewniak · wrote on 26 Sept 2010, 16:19

In my opinion QtCreator is robust. I wouldn’t call Visual Studio robust but bloated :P. No distracting toolbars, QtCreator is about the code! And QT != Qt(just a side note)

? This user is from outside of this forum · wrote on 26 Sept 2010, 16:21

[quote author="kkrzewniak" date="1285517969"]I wouldn’t call Visual Studio robust but bloated :P[/quote]

:P heh heh

kkrzewniak · wrote on 26 Sept 2010, 16:30

I just don't like Visual Studio. Had to use it, didn't like it. Too big, too slow, to complex, simply not agile enough.

? This user is from outside of this forum · wrote on 26 Sept 2010, 16:38

It would be interesting to hear feedback about programming in Qt using Eclipse, compared to Qt Creator

ivan · wrote on 26 Sept 2010, 19:20

I've used Eclipse for KDE development a couple of years ago.

It is full-fledged IDE and has quite a few nice extensions. Nice code completion, debugging, versioning systems support etc. I've missed only one thing in it - speed. And that was the reason I abandoned IDEs altogether.

Qt Creator is the first modern non-beta-software IDE [1] that doesn't feel like swimming upstream most of the time. My first impression about QtCreator was that it feels like a toy (sometime during pre 1.0) but later it turned out to be a toy like Lego Mindstorms - fun to use, but not limiting.

Mind that this was a comment from someone who hasn't used a conventional IDE for any real work for a very long time - I've tested QtC for the fun of it, and I don't really remember all the goodies and quirks of Eclipse I used to know.

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[1] Excluding KDevelop as not yet released software

alexander · wrote on 26 Sept 2010, 20:13

I also like QtCreator and use it for writing project but for debugging I still use Microsoft Visual studio, because it's faster:(

pushpendrak · wrote on 27 Sept 2010, 07:37

yeah same thing i want to say that visual studio is bloated, still it has nice features and settings user friendly (may be bcoz i m using it from 4 years). debugging is very very helpful and fast.

i've tried eclipse once but, there are so many settings confused at all. back to visual std/QtCreator.

tobias.hunger · wrote on 27 Sept 2010, 10:21

pushpendrak: Sorry, there will be no toolbars in creator! Please use the Menus to discover functionality... in time you will more and more use the keyboard shortcuts and not notice the "missing" toolbars anymore:-)

chetankjain: If something is greyed out in Creator then that means the functionality is not available right now. It is implemented and available in other situations (e.g. when you are using a different version control system for your code, etc.). We do not put stubs into the menus, so please "report a bug":http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/ if something is not available when you think it should be.

? This user is from outside of this forum · wrote on 27 Sept 2010, 10:42

Tobias, tried a few things, but can you point me how to get "Tools->Bookmarks" enabled ... sorry if very basic question ...

tobias.hunger · wrote on 27 Sept 2010, 10:55

The menu entry becomes active once at least one bookmark is set. Just click anywhere in the bar before your text (where the breakpoints are displayed) and do "Toggle Bookmark".

The Bookmark menu does contain an entry to "toggle bookmark", so it should actually be always active (when you can toggle a bookmark). Could you please write "a bug report":http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/ about this? Thanks!

? This user is from outside of this forum · wrote on 27 Sept 2010, 11:21

Just logged "this":http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTCREATORBUG-2468

My feel is there should be some differentiation between source code bookmarks and help doc bookmarks. Naming both as bookmarks and having slightly different behavior in creator is confusing ... of course one will get used to it very soon :)

tobias.hunger · wrote on 27 Sept 2010, 13:24

Code navigation works so well for me that I hardly ever used bookmarks so far:-)

pushpendrak · wrote on 27 Sept 2010, 13:53

How i can collapse all functions and conditional block in one command?

? This user is from outside of this forum · wrote on 27 Sept 2010, 13:57

This option is there in Edit->Advanced menu, but by default no shortcut is associated.
You can associate your shortcut from Tools->Options->Environment->Keyboard

works just fine :)

tobias.hunger · wrote on 27 Sept 2010, 14:03

Which features are you actually missing from Visual Studio? The "Find word in project" one is there, so maybe some of your other wishlist items can be found for you, too:-)

Where is Creator less robust than Visual Studio? Did you experience any crashes? What is less dynamic about Creator?

pushpendrak · wrote on 27 Sept 2010, 14:45

oh yes, works fine.

thanx a lot again, chetan.

yes it is very dynamic, but accessibility is not so dynamic.. it's good it has short keys, but people don't remember all. if it is provided with contextmenu it will be too gud.

other thing i want to know if it is possible to see the class structure in side bar (for navigation and view)?