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Bug fixes that are only available to commercial license holders... Really?

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    Diracsbracket
    wrote on 4 Mar 2021, 22:01 last edited by kshegunov 3 Jul 2021, 12:19
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    Qt 5.15.3 has over 250 bug fixes:
    https://www.qt.io/blog/commercial-lts-qt-5.15.3-released
    As a patch release however, it does not add any new functionality.
    Yet, the bug fixes are only provided to commercial license holders.
    Brilliant!

    Qt, please hurry and also cut off access to the various individual patches that
    are still accessible from the system dashboard before freeloaders without a
    commercial license get to them!

    [Moved to The lounge ~kshegunov]

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    • D Diracsbracket
      4 Mar 2021, 22:01

      Qt 5.15.3 has over 250 bug fixes:
      https://www.qt.io/blog/commercial-lts-qt-5.15.3-released
      As a patch release however, it does not add any new functionality.
      Yet, the bug fixes are only provided to commercial license holders.
      Brilliant!

      Qt, please hurry and also cut off access to the various individual patches that
      are still accessible from the system dashboard before freeloaders without a
      commercial license get to them!

      [Moved to The lounge ~kshegunov]

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      jsulm
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      wrote on 5 Mar 2021, 06:33 last edited by
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      @Diracsbracket Unfortunately, LTS point releases are now commercial only...

      https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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        sierdzio
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        wrote on 5 Mar 2021, 06:34 last edited by
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        Yeah, dumb move but not unexpected - they announced this way back.

        And this is not entirely true:

        the bug fixes are only provided to commercial license holders.

        because the fixes are provided openly in Qt 6. The catch, of course, is that Qt 6 is practically a proof of concept at this point, with many important modules missing...

        (Z(:^

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        • D Diracsbracket
          4 Mar 2021, 22:01

          Qt 5.15.3 has over 250 bug fixes:
          https://www.qt.io/blog/commercial-lts-qt-5.15.3-released
          As a patch release however, it does not add any new functionality.
          Yet, the bug fixes are only provided to commercial license holders.
          Brilliant!

          Qt, please hurry and also cut off access to the various individual patches that
          are still accessible from the system dashboard before freeloaders without a
          commercial license get to them!

          [Moved to The lounge ~kshegunov]

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          JonB
          wrote on 5 Mar 2021, 09:37 last edited by
          #4

          @Diracsbracket

          Really?

          Yes, Really....

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            5 Mar 2021, 09:37

            @Diracsbracket

            Really?

            Yes, Really....

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            Diracsbracket
            wrote on 7 Mar 2021, 10:33 last edited by Diracsbracket 3 Jul 2021, 10:56
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            @JonB said in Bug fixes that are only available to commercial license holders... Really?:

            Yes, Really....

            Yeah, I know I am bitching, but it's just that I don't understand the logic behind all this.

            It's like to say to their paying customers:
            "Look, we found all these bugs in the previous release, and got them fixed in a nice new package, only for you. As for those open-source suckers, they'll have to apply the fixes themselves on this one. That'll show them! Isn't that a bang for your buck?"

            Cheers.

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            • D Diracsbracket
              7 Mar 2021, 10:33

              @JonB said in Bug fixes that are only available to commercial license holders... Really?:

              Yes, Really....

              Yeah, I know I am bitching, but it's just that I don't understand the logic behind all this.

              It's like to say to their paying customers:
              "Look, we found all these bugs in the previous release, and got them fixed in a nice new package, only for you. As for those open-source suckers, they'll have to apply the fixes themselves on this one. That'll show them! Isn't that a bang for your buck?"

              Cheers.

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              kshegunov
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              wrote on 7 Mar 2021, 12:19 last edited by
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              @Diracsbracket said in Bug fixes that are only available to commercial license holders... Really?:

              Yeah, I know I am bitching

              Eh! When I heard of it, I did too. You are most certainly not uniquely evil in that regard.

              but it's just that I don't understand the logic behind all this.

              Money. There's a lot of arguments back an forth on the mailing lists. It was rather epic, honestly. If you want to be up to speed on all the drama, the mail list archive is the place to start.

              It's like to say to their paying customers:
              "Look, we found all these bugs in the previous release, and got them fixed in a nice new package, only for you. As for those open-source suckers, they'll have to apply the fixes themselves on this one. That'll show them! Isn't that a bang for your buck?"

              Feels that way, yeah. The official stance for OSS is to upgrade to the next available release, which should include the bugfixes.
              My personal opinion: it is a dick move, but then again, life goes on.

              Read and abide by the Qt Code of Conduct

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                Christian Ehrlicher
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                wrote on 7 Mar 2021, 12:29 last edited by
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                I'm pretty sure there will be soon some people who collect all (or at least important) fixes for 5.15.x. Most of them are visible through gerrit so just someone needs to write a script... ;)

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                  wrote on 8 Mar 2021, 09:47 last edited by DavisTressie 3 Sept 2021, 05:12
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                    Christian Ehrlicher
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                    wrote on 8 Mar 2021, 09:53 last edited by
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                    You have to follow the respective license(s). But this has nothing to do with this topic.

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                      fcarney
                      wrote on 8 Mar 2021, 17:39 last edited by
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                      My guess is this will cause a fork in the code base eventually. Someone could in reality make a mirror, point to that mirror with the maintenance tool (--mirror), and use a forked version.

                      C++ is a perfectly valid school of magic.

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                        4 Mar 2021, 22:01

                        Qt 5.15.3 has over 250 bug fixes:
                        https://www.qt.io/blog/commercial-lts-qt-5.15.3-released
                        As a patch release however, it does not add any new functionality.
                        Yet, the bug fixes are only provided to commercial license holders.
                        Brilliant!

                        Qt, please hurry and also cut off access to the various individual patches that
                        are still accessible from the system dashboard before freeloaders without a
                        commercial license get to them!

                        [Moved to The lounge ~kshegunov]

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                          8 Mar 2021, 17:39

                          My guess is this will cause a fork in the code base eventually. Someone could in reality make a mirror, point to that mirror with the maintenance tool (--mirror), and use a forked version.

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