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  • Q Qt Enthusiast

    it has hex value for QColor , as I understand having QMap<MyInst,QString) will be more optimal than QMap<MyInst,QColor> if I store hexvalue of a QColor in QString

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    mrjj
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    @Qt-Enthusiast
    yes a hex value should be less. maybe.
    u can just test it with
    sizeof

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    • Q Qt Enthusiast

      it has hex value for QColor , as I understand having QMap<MyInst,QString) will be more optimal than QMap<MyInst,QColor> if I store hexvalue of a QColor in QString

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      @Qt-Enthusiast
      No! 1 character in QString is 2 bytes (it uses unicode), so the 6 characters you need to store the color will be 12 bytes vs the 3 (or 4 bytes with alpha) you need for representing a color. But again, why do you care? Just use what makes sense - QColor for colors, QString for strings ...

      @mrjj
      sizeof isn't useful here:

      sizeof(QString) == sizeof(void *)
      

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      • kshegunovK kshegunov

        @Qt-Enthusiast
        No! 1 character in QString is 2 bytes (it uses unicode), so the 6 characters you need to store the color will be 12 bytes vs the 3 (or 4 bytes with alpha) you need for representing a color. But again, why do you care? Just use what makes sense - QColor for colors, QString for strings ...

        @mrjj
        sizeof isn't useful here:

        sizeof(QString) == sizeof(void *)
        
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        mrjj
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        @kshegunov
        yes u are right ( as always)
        Just meant for checking how much QColor will take.

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        • mrjjM mrjj

          @kshegunov
          yes u are right ( as always)
          Just meant for checking how much QColor will take.

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          kshegunov
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          #8

          @mrjj
          It's easier to just check it up:
          http://code.qt.io/cgit/qt/qtbase.git/tree/src/gui/painting/qcolor.h#n227

          1 enum which is the word's size + 5 shorts in the union.
          For a 64 bit machine this is 6 shorts 5 shorts and an int64 or 12 bytes 18 bytes. So there's no difference.

          EDIT:
          My math skills apparently suck.
          A QString represented color will require 12 bytes for the 6 characters + 8 bytes on a 64 bit OS for the pointer + 4 bytes for the atomic reference counter used in the implicit sharing, which totals to 24 bytes

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          • kshegunovK kshegunov

            @mrjj
            It's easier to just check it up:
            http://code.qt.io/cgit/qt/qtbase.git/tree/src/gui/painting/qcolor.h#n227

            1 enum which is the word's size + 5 shorts in the union.
            For a 64 bit machine this is 6 shorts 5 shorts and an int64 or 12 bytes 18 bytes. So there's no difference.

            EDIT:
            My math skills apparently suck.
            A QString represented color will require 12 bytes for the 6 characters + 8 bytes on a 64 bit OS for the pointer + 4 bytes for the atomic reference counter used in the implicit sharing, which totals to 24 bytes

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            @kshegunov
            also, unless he has a 10.000.000
            it might not really matter :)

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              Hi,

              And to add my fellows, if you have a doubt: benchmark. That way you'll what suites your needs best.

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              • kshegunovK kshegunov

                @mrjj
                It's easier to just check it up:
                http://code.qt.io/cgit/qt/qtbase.git/tree/src/gui/painting/qcolor.h#n227

                1 enum which is the word's size + 5 shorts in the union.
                For a 64 bit machine this is 6 shorts 5 shorts and an int64 or 12 bytes 18 bytes. So there's no difference.

                EDIT:
                My math skills apparently suck.
                A QString represented color will require 12 bytes for the 6 characters + 8 bytes on a 64 bit OS for the pointer + 4 bytes for the atomic reference counter used in the implicit sharing, which totals to 24 bytes

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                Sorry does that mean QString takes more memory that QColor

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                  EDIT:
                  My math skills apparently suck.
                  A QString represented color will require 12 bytes for the 6 characters + 8 bytes on a 64 bit OS for the pointer + 4 bytes for the atomic reference counter used in the implicit sharing, which totals to 24 bytes

                  This is not clear to me how much memory QString takes

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                    hi
                    24 bytes it seems. :)

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                    • Q Offline
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                      #14

                      so QString takes more memory that QColor ?

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                      • Q Qt Enthusiast

                        so QString takes more memory that QColor ?

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                        @Qt-Enthusiast
                        yes. on 64 bit, even more.

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                        • Q Qt Enthusiast

                          so QString takes more memory that QColor ?

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                          @Qt-Enthusiast
                          18 bytes for a QColor instance vs about 30 bytes for a QString object with 6 letters (QString will also keep one zero character at the end and will store the length, as addition to the things I've described in my edit). So yes, QColor will take less memory.

                          But I just can't stress this enough: use what makes sense. Even if QString were more memory efficient, the complications and the needed CPU time for conversions between colors and strings just makes it unsuitable. And small wonder, it's supposed to be a general purpose string, not a color. There's a separate class that represents colors, so you should use that in any case and not worry about how much bytes anything takes unless you hit the memory limit (which seems doubtful at this point).

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                          • kshegunovK kshegunov

                            @Qt-Enthusiast
                            18 bytes for a QColor instance vs about 30 bytes for a QString object with 6 letters (QString will also keep one zero character at the end and will store the length, as addition to the things I've described in my edit). So yes, QColor will take less memory.

                            But I just can't stress this enough: use what makes sense. Even if QString were more memory efficient, the complications and the needed CPU time for conversions between colors and strings just makes it unsuitable. And small wonder, it's supposed to be a general purpose string, not a color. There's a separate class that represents colors, so you should use that in any case and not worry about how much bytes anything takes unless you hit the memory limit (which seems doubtful at this point).

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                            jsulm
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                            @kshegunov Yes, using QString instead of QColor to represent a colour just to save some bytes is an example for how not to optimize software.
                            @qtEnthusiast why not use an 32bit unsigned int to represent a colour? This way you only need 4 bytes.

                            https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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                            • jsulmJ jsulm

                              @kshegunov Yes, using QString instead of QColor to represent a colour just to save some bytes is an example for how not to optimize software.
                              @qtEnthusiast why not use an 32bit unsigned int to represent a colour? This way you only need 4 bytes.

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                              mrjj
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                              @jsulm
                              Following your thought of unsigned int

                              Would
                              QMap<MyInst,QRgb);

                              be as good?

                              It does seems
                              QColor::QColor(QRgb color)

                              will ignore alpha.

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                              • mrjjM mrjj

                                @jsulm
                                Following your thought of unsigned int

                                Would
                                QMap<MyInst,QRgb);

                                be as good?

                                It does seems
                                QColor::QColor(QRgb color)

                                will ignore alpha.

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                                jsulm
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                                @mrjj It depends on the requirements: is alpha needed?

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                                • jsulmJ jsulm

                                  @mrjj It depends on the requirements: is alpha needed?

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                                  mrjj
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                                  wrote on last edited by mrjj
                                  #20

                                  @jsulm
                                  Hi
                                  Not 100% sure but my guess would be
                                  yes from what he posted so far.

                                  update:
                                  funny enough it seems to like alpha the other way
                                  QRgb QColor::rgba() const

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                                  • jsulmJ jsulm

                                    @kshegunov Yes, using QString instead of QColor to represent a colour just to save some bytes is an example for how not to optimize software.
                                    @qtEnthusiast why not use an 32bit unsigned int to represent a colour? This way you only need 4 bytes.

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                                    Can u tell me how to represent integer for colors because we can have millions of colors ?

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                                    • Q Qt Enthusiast

                                      Can u tell me how to represent integer for colors because we can have millions of colors ?

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                                      jsulm
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                                      wrote on last edited by
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                                      @Qt-Enthusiast 32bit integer can represent billions of values/colors.
                                      RGB - means 1byte for red, 1byte for green and one byte for blue. Since 32bit integer consists of 4 bytes you still have one byte for alpha channel.

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                                      • Q Qt Enthusiast

                                        Can u tell me how to represent integer for colors because we can have millions of colors ?

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                                        jsulm
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                                        @Qt-Enthusiast See here: http://doc.qt.io/qt-5.7/qcolor.html#QRgb-typedef

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                                          What exactly do you want to do with that map ?

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