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  • A Anonymous_Banned275

    I do not agree with your opinion : What are you trying to achieve?
    My missed point is - Qt documentation call the result of their process of building a class a " template". It is NOT template TYPE by definition, it is Qt miss use of a term.
    I have no illusion that pointing that out will "achieve " anything. Qt is pushing its own terminology and continue to do so irregardless of me , a user , opinion. They are the experts , in their opinions / view.
    My only "achievement' could be to make others users of Qt aware. That is about all I could hope for.

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    It is NOT template TYPE by definition, it is Qt miss use of a term.

    That's simply wrong, @AnneRanch.
    The misunderstanding is entirely on your side.

    As @Asperamanca indicated, the term "template" is standard English vocabulary. If you reserve it exclusively for what is a template in C++, you limit your own vocabulary.

    The documentation page you referred, is truly outdated, but it doesn't contain anything wrong. It uses word "template" in two different contexts:

    • TEMPLATE directive of qmake
    • creating a class definition, following a template (as @Asperamanca already explained)

    The page does not contain any mention of the term "template" in C++ code. That makes the context pretty obvious for any C++ programmer, beginners included.

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    The Qt Company, Oslo

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    • A Anonymous_Banned275

      I disagree , especially when it is " for beginners" .
      Cheers

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      @AnneRanch said in How to build real template class?:

      I disagree , especially when it is " for beginners" .
      Cheers

      I agree that the conflict of terms here is a bit unfortunate. Then again, I cannot come up with a more fitting term for "template" in this context. If you have a better idea, you can also write documentation suggestion to bugreports.qt.io

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      • A Asperamanca

        @AnneRanch said in How to build real template class?:

        I disagree , especially when it is " for beginners" .
        Cheers

        I agree that the conflict of terms here is a bit unfortunate. Then again, I cannot come up with a more fitting term for "template" in this context. If you have a better idea, you can also write documentation suggestion to bugreports.qt.io

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        @Asperamanca said in How to build real template class?:

        I cannot come up with a more fitting term for "template" in this context

        I can think of another term (don't know if better or not), but I'm not allowed to comment :)))
        The first part is a color, the second part of the word is what a certain I/O device does :)))


        If debugging is the process of removing software bugs, then programming must be the process of putting them in.

        ~E. W. Dijkstra

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        • Pl45m4P Pl45m4

          @Asperamanca said in How to build real template class?:

          I cannot come up with a more fitting term for "template" in this context

          I can think of another term (don't know if better or not), but I'm not allowed to comment :)))
          The first part is a color, the second part of the word is what a certain I/O device does :)))

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          @Pl45m4 yellow fax

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            @Pl45m4 yellow fax

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            @Redman said in How to build real template class?:

            yellow fax

            Yep. That's it :))
            You're good :D


            If debugging is the process of removing software bugs, then programming must be the process of putting them in.

            ~E. W. Dijkstra

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            • R Redman

              @Pl45m4 yellow fax

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              @Redman
              C'mon, ever seen a yellow fax?
              He meant orange jam, obviously.

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              • Axel SpoerlA Axel Spoerl

                @Redman
                C'mon, ever seen a yellow fax?
                He meant orange jam, obviously.

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                @Axel-Spoerl said in How to build real template class?:

                He meant orange jam, obviously.

                Actually I was referring to commonly used term "reddisplay".
                ... but I agreed to @Redman so he wouldn't feel bad :)))


                If debugging is the process of removing software bugs, then programming must be the process of putting them in.

                ~E. W. Dijkstra

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                  bluescreen :-)

                  https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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                  • jsulmJ jsulm

                    bluescreen :-)

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                    @jsulm said in How to build real template class?:

                    bluescreen :-)

                    That's what you get when using yellow fax wrong :))


                    If debugging is the process of removing software bugs, then programming must be the process of putting them in.

                    ~E. W. Dijkstra

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                      I got it: Black Label!
                      Edit: Green Card.

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                        This took me exceedingly long to get omfg.


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                        • A Anonymous_Banned275

                          https://wiki.qt.io/Qt_for_Beginners

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                          @AnneRanch said in How to build real template class?:

                          https://wiki.qt.io/Qt_for_Beginners

                          The issue brought up here is far from the most objectionable thing on that page. I mean, have you seen THIS nonsense?

                          Qt (pronounced as "cute", not "cu-tee")

                          Not just no, but HELL no!

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                          • FeRDNYCF FeRDNYC

                            @AnneRanch said in How to build real template class?:

                            https://wiki.qt.io/Qt_for_Beginners

                            The issue brought up here is far from the most objectionable thing on that page. I mean, have you seen THIS nonsense?

                            Qt (pronounced as "cute", not "cu-tee")

                            Not just no, but HELL no!

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                            @FeRDNYC said in How to build real template class?:

                            Qt (pronounced as "cute", not "cu-tee")

                            Not just no, but HELL no!

                            More than enough people say it like this...
                            I mean, there is no right or wrong.
                            But I also don't like it as "cute".


                            If debugging is the process of removing software bugs, then programming must be the process of putting them in.

                            ~E. W. Dijkstra

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                            • Pl45m4P Pl45m4

                              @FeRDNYC said in How to build real template class?:

                              Qt (pronounced as "cute", not "cu-tee")

                              Not just no, but HELL no!

                              More than enough people say it like this...
                              I mean, there is no right or wrong.
                              But I also don't like it as "cute".

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                              @Pl45m4 said in How to build real template class?:

                              But I also don't like it as "cute".

                              Interesting. I don't like it either and prefer "Q-T", but I make myself say "Cute" against my preference.

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                              • FeRDNYCF FeRDNYC

                                @AnneRanch said in How to build real template class?:

                                https://wiki.qt.io/Qt_for_Beginners

                                The issue brought up here is far from the most objectionable thing on that page. I mean, have you seen THIS nonsense?

                                Qt (pronounced as "cute", not "cu-tee")

                                Not just no, but HELL no!

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                                @FeRDNYC said in How to build real template class?:

                                Not just no, but HELL no!

                                You are only figuring that out now? Right from the get go (some 20 years ago) I already heard that the "official" pronunciation is "cute". Haven't adapted it yet... (I also don't say "cu-tee" because I'm German and it sounds more like "koo-teh".)

                                Others have already played off this: There is a web toolkit for C++ heavily borrowing from Qt. It is called Wt (pronounced "witty").

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                                  I'm never going to pronounce it cute, gun to my chest and all


                                  Be aware of the Qt Code of Conduct, when posting : https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct


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                                  A: It's blue light.
                                  Q: What does it do?
                                  A: It turns blue.

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                                  • J.HilkJ J.Hilk

                                    I'm never going to pronounce it cute, gun to my chest and all

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                                    @J-Hilk said in How to build real template class?:

                                    I'm never going to pronounce it cute, gun to my chest and all

                                    SRSLY.

                                    I resisted 30-odd years ago when they tried to convince us that SCSI was pronounced "sexy" (in fairness, so did everyone else), and I shall be no less resolute against this affront! "Cue tee" is the hill I'm willing to die on.

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