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    Asperamanca
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    The important question is: What are you trying to achieve?
    I struggle to see a compelling use case for a templated QObject, but I might be missing something...

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      I do not agree with your opinion : What are you trying to achieve?
      My missed point is - Qt documentation call the result of their process of building a class a " template". It is NOT template TYPE by definition, it is Qt miss use of a term.
      I have no illusion that pointing that out will "achieve " anything. Qt is pushing its own terminology and continue to do so irregardless of me , a user , opinion. They are the experts , in their opinions / view.
      My only "achievement' could be to make others users of Qt aware. That is about all I could hope for.

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        It is creating a template for a class derived from QObject, not a template class. You are mixing different stuff.

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          Could you link the relevant documentation page?

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            https://wiki.qt.io/Qt_for_Beginners

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              "Template" in this context is simply an English word in the same way as you may have a "Template for a presentation", i.e. something generic to help you get started, from which you can then customize what you want.

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                I disagree , especially when it is " for beginners" .
                Cheers

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                  I do not agree with your opinion : What are you trying to achieve?
                  My missed point is - Qt documentation call the result of their process of building a class a " template". It is NOT template TYPE by definition, it is Qt miss use of a term.
                  I have no illusion that pointing that out will "achieve " anything. Qt is pushing its own terminology and continue to do so irregardless of me , a user , opinion. They are the experts , in their opinions / view.
                  My only "achievement' could be to make others users of Qt aware. That is about all I could hope for.

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                  It is NOT template TYPE by definition, it is Qt miss use of a term.

                  That's simply wrong, @AnneRanch.
                  The misunderstanding is entirely on your side.

                  As @Asperamanca indicated, the term "template" is standard English vocabulary. If you reserve it exclusively for what is a template in C++, you limit your own vocabulary.

                  The documentation page you referred, is truly outdated, but it doesn't contain anything wrong. It uses word "template" in two different contexts:

                  • TEMPLATE directive of qmake
                  • creating a class definition, following a template (as @Asperamanca already explained)

                  The page does not contain any mention of the term "template" in C++ code. That makes the context pretty obvious for any C++ programmer, beginners included.

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                    I disagree , especially when it is " for beginners" .
                    Cheers

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                    @AnneRanch said in How to build real template class?:

                    I disagree , especially when it is " for beginners" .
                    Cheers

                    I agree that the conflict of terms here is a bit unfortunate. Then again, I cannot come up with a more fitting term for "template" in this context. If you have a better idea, you can also write documentation suggestion to bugreports.qt.io

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                      @AnneRanch said in How to build real template class?:

                      I disagree , especially when it is " for beginners" .
                      Cheers

                      I agree that the conflict of terms here is a bit unfortunate. Then again, I cannot come up with a more fitting term for "template" in this context. If you have a better idea, you can also write documentation suggestion to bugreports.qt.io

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                      @Asperamanca said in How to build real template class?:

                      I cannot come up with a more fitting term for "template" in this context

                      I can think of another term (don't know if better or not), but I'm not allowed to comment :)))
                      The first part is a color, the second part of the word is what a certain I/O device does :)))


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                        @Asperamanca said in How to build real template class?:

                        I cannot come up with a more fitting term for "template" in this context

                        I can think of another term (don't know if better or not), but I'm not allowed to comment :)))
                        The first part is a color, the second part of the word is what a certain I/O device does :)))

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                        @Pl45m4 yellow fax

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                          @Pl45m4 yellow fax

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                          @Redman said in How to build real template class?:

                          yellow fax

                          Yep. That's it :))
                          You're good :D


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                            @Pl45m4 yellow fax

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                            @Redman
                            C'mon, ever seen a yellow fax?
                            He meant orange jam, obviously.

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                              @Redman
                              C'mon, ever seen a yellow fax?
                              He meant orange jam, obviously.

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                              @Axel-Spoerl said in How to build real template class?:

                              He meant orange jam, obviously.

                              Actually I was referring to commonly used term "reddisplay".
                              ... but I agreed to @Redman so he wouldn't feel bad :)))


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                                bluescreen :-)

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                                  bluescreen :-)

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                                  @jsulm said in How to build real template class?:

                                  bluescreen :-)

                                  That's what you get when using yellow fax wrong :))


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                                    I got it: Black Label!
                                    Edit: Green Card.

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                                      This took me exceedingly long to get omfg.


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                                        https://wiki.qt.io/Qt_for_Beginners

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                                        @AnneRanch said in How to build real template class?:

                                        https://wiki.qt.io/Qt_for_Beginners

                                        The issue brought up here is far from the most objectionable thing on that page. I mean, have you seen THIS nonsense?

                                        Qt (pronounced as "cute", not "cu-tee")

                                        Not just no, but HELL no!

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                                          @AnneRanch said in How to build real template class?:

                                          https://wiki.qt.io/Qt_for_Beginners

                                          The issue brought up here is far from the most objectionable thing on that page. I mean, have you seen THIS nonsense?

                                          Qt (pronounced as "cute", not "cu-tee")

                                          Not just no, but HELL no!

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                                          @FeRDNYC said in How to build real template class?:

                                          Qt (pronounced as "cute", not "cu-tee")

                                          Not just no, but HELL no!

                                          More than enough people say it like this...
                                          I mean, there is no right or wrong.
                                          But I also don't like it as "cute".


                                          If debugging is the process of removing software bugs, then programming must be the process of putting them in.

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