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    Anonymous_Banned275
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    I do not agree with your opinion : What are you trying to achieve?
    My missed point is - Qt documentation call the result of their process of building a class a " template". It is NOT template TYPE by definition, it is Qt miss use of a term.
    I have no illusion that pointing that out will "achieve " anything. Qt is pushing its own terminology and continue to do so irregardless of me , a user , opinion. They are the experts , in their opinions / view.
    My only "achievement' could be to make others users of Qt aware. That is about all I could hope for.

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      It is creating a template for a class derived from QObject, not a template class. You are mixing different stuff.

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        Could you link the relevant documentation page?

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          https://wiki.qt.io/Qt_for_Beginners

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            "Template" in this context is simply an English word in the same way as you may have a "Template for a presentation", i.e. something generic to help you get started, from which you can then customize what you want.

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              I disagree , especially when it is " for beginners" .
              Cheers

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                I do not agree with your opinion : What are you trying to achieve?
                My missed point is - Qt documentation call the result of their process of building a class a " template". It is NOT template TYPE by definition, it is Qt miss use of a term.
                I have no illusion that pointing that out will "achieve " anything. Qt is pushing its own terminology and continue to do so irregardless of me , a user , opinion. They are the experts , in their opinions / view.
                My only "achievement' could be to make others users of Qt aware. That is about all I could hope for.

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                It is NOT template TYPE by definition, it is Qt miss use of a term.

                That's simply wrong, @AnneRanch.
                The misunderstanding is entirely on your side.

                As @Asperamanca indicated, the term "template" is standard English vocabulary. If you reserve it exclusively for what is a template in C++, you limit your own vocabulary.

                The documentation page you referred, is truly outdated, but it doesn't contain anything wrong. It uses word "template" in two different contexts:

                • TEMPLATE directive of qmake
                • creating a class definition, following a template (as @Asperamanca already explained)

                The page does not contain any mention of the term "template" in C++ code. That makes the context pretty obvious for any C++ programmer, beginners included.

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                  I disagree , especially when it is " for beginners" .
                  Cheers

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                  @AnneRanch said in How to build real template class?:

                  I disagree , especially when it is " for beginners" .
                  Cheers

                  I agree that the conflict of terms here is a bit unfortunate. Then again, I cannot come up with a more fitting term for "template" in this context. If you have a better idea, you can also write documentation suggestion to bugreports.qt.io

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                    @AnneRanch said in How to build real template class?:

                    I disagree , especially when it is " for beginners" .
                    Cheers

                    I agree that the conflict of terms here is a bit unfortunate. Then again, I cannot come up with a more fitting term for "template" in this context. If you have a better idea, you can also write documentation suggestion to bugreports.qt.io

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                    @Asperamanca said in How to build real template class?:

                    I cannot come up with a more fitting term for "template" in this context

                    I can think of another term (don't know if better or not), but I'm not allowed to comment :)))
                    The first part is a color, the second part of the word is what a certain I/O device does :)))


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                      @Asperamanca said in How to build real template class?:

                      I cannot come up with a more fitting term for "template" in this context

                      I can think of another term (don't know if better or not), but I'm not allowed to comment :)))
                      The first part is a color, the second part of the word is what a certain I/O device does :)))

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                      @Pl45m4 yellow fax

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                        @Pl45m4 yellow fax

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                        @Redman said in How to build real template class?:

                        yellow fax

                        Yep. That's it :))
                        You're good :D


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                          @Pl45m4 yellow fax

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                          @Redman
                          C'mon, ever seen a yellow fax?
                          He meant orange jam, obviously.

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                            @Redman
                            C'mon, ever seen a yellow fax?
                            He meant orange jam, obviously.

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                            @Axel-Spoerl said in How to build real template class?:

                            He meant orange jam, obviously.

                            Actually I was referring to commonly used term "reddisplay".
                            ... but I agreed to @Redman so he wouldn't feel bad :)))


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                              bluescreen :-)

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                                bluescreen :-)

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                                @jsulm said in How to build real template class?:

                                bluescreen :-)

                                That's what you get when using yellow fax wrong :))


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                                  I got it: Black Label!
                                  Edit: Green Card.

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                                    This took me exceedingly long to get omfg.


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                                      https://wiki.qt.io/Qt_for_Beginners

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                                      @AnneRanch said in How to build real template class?:

                                      https://wiki.qt.io/Qt_for_Beginners

                                      The issue brought up here is far from the most objectionable thing on that page. I mean, have you seen THIS nonsense?

                                      Qt (pronounced as "cute", not "cu-tee")

                                      Not just no, but HELL no!

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                                        @AnneRanch said in How to build real template class?:

                                        https://wiki.qt.io/Qt_for_Beginners

                                        The issue brought up here is far from the most objectionable thing on that page. I mean, have you seen THIS nonsense?

                                        Qt (pronounced as "cute", not "cu-tee")

                                        Not just no, but HELL no!

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                                        @FeRDNYC said in How to build real template class?:

                                        Qt (pronounced as "cute", not "cu-tee")

                                        Not just no, but HELL no!

                                        More than enough people say it like this...
                                        I mean, there is no right or wrong.
                                        But I also don't like it as "cute".


                                        If debugging is the process of removing software bugs, then programming must be the process of putting them in.

                                        ~E. W. Dijkstra

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                                        • Pl45m4P Pl45m4

                                          @FeRDNYC said in How to build real template class?:

                                          Qt (pronounced as "cute", not "cu-tee")

                                          Not just no, but HELL no!

                                          More than enough people say it like this...
                                          I mean, there is no right or wrong.
                                          But I also don't like it as "cute".

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                                          @Pl45m4 said in How to build real template class?:

                                          But I also don't like it as "cute".

                                          Interesting. I don't like it either and prefer "Q-T", but I make myself say "Cute" against my preference.

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