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  • jsulmJ jsulm

    @brianmeasley said in Pyside2.QtCore.QThread.terminate() Cause python to crash:

    Unable to connect because the target computer actively refused it

    Did you see this?
    I guess you should catch the exceptions from urllib.

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    @jsulm This is not the problem. This is just a sample code. Please replace the URL to a downloadable file. Problems will still occur in other scenarios. For example, problems will occur when using paramiko to execute sftp to transfer files/kill threads when executing commands, but These problems do not exist in PySide6, but PySide6 does not support x86 Windows operating systems.

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      @jsulm This is not the problem. This is just a sample code. Please replace the URL to a downloadable file. Problems will still occur in other scenarios. For example, problems will occur when using paramiko to execute sftp to transfer files/kill threads when executing commands, but These problems do not exist in PySide6, but PySide6 does not support x86 Windows operating systems.

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      jsulm
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      @brianmeasley said in Pyside2.QtCore.QThread.terminate() Cause python to crash:

      This is not the problem

      If this is not the problem then post something which is actually related to your problem. Or should we guess?

      https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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      • jsulmJ jsulm

        @brianmeasley said in Pyside2.QtCore.QThread.terminate() Cause python to crash:

        This is not the problem

        If this is not the problem then post something which is actually related to your problem. Or should we guess?

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        @jsulm

        Unable to connect because the target computer actively refused it

        Did you see this?
        I guess you should catch the exceptions from urllib.

        This is not the problem

        If this is not the problem then post something which is actually related to your problem. Or should we guess?

        What I actually said is that there is no problem with urllib, because the same code runs without problems in PySide6. You can run the above code and click the Start button repeatedly and it will crash (remember to replace the URL variable with a downloadable file ).
        If it is a problem with urllib, the same problem should also occur in PySide6, but now the problem seems to only occur in PySide2.
        The specific problem is that I found that by subclassing QThread in PySide2 and overriding the run method, when running some I/O operations that require waiting, if I want to terminate the thread immediately and execute QThread.terminate(), it will cause the entire Python program to crash.

        This problem also occurs when using the paramiko library and other operations that require network I/O. I wonder if you can understand the problem I encountered?

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        • B brianmeasley

          @jsulm

          Unable to connect because the target computer actively refused it

          Did you see this?
          I guess you should catch the exceptions from urllib.

          This is not the problem

          If this is not the problem then post something which is actually related to your problem. Or should we guess?

          What I actually said is that there is no problem with urllib, because the same code runs without problems in PySide6. You can run the above code and click the Start button repeatedly and it will crash (remember to replace the URL variable with a downloadable file ).
          If it is a problem with urllib, the same problem should also occur in PySide6, but now the problem seems to only occur in PySide2.
          The specific problem is that I found that by subclassing QThread in PySide2 and overriding the run method, when running some I/O operations that require waiting, if I want to terminate the thread immediately and execute QThread.terminate(), it will cause the entire Python program to crash.

          This problem also occurs when using the paramiko library and other operations that require network I/O. I wonder if you can understand the problem I encountered?

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          jsulm
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          @brianmeasley Sorry, I will not run anything. That you can do and post the stack trace here.
          Also, if you press this button repeatedly without waiting for the previous request to finish your previous QThread instance will be probably deleted by garbage collector.

          https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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          • jsulmJ jsulm

            @brianmeasley Sorry, I will not run anything. That you can do and post the stack trace here.
            Also, if you press this button repeatedly without waiting for the previous request to finish your previous QThread instance will be probably deleted by garbage collector.

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            @jsulm

            Sorry, I will not run anything. That you can do and post the stack trace here.

            This is the code that runs:

            import io
            import sys
            import time
            import typing
            from contextlib import suppress
            
            import paramiko
            from PySide2.QtCore import QThread
            from PySide2.QtWidgets import QApplication, QWidget, QGridLayout, QPushButton
            
            
            def ssh_connect(ssh_client: paramiko.SSHClient,
                            hostname: str,
                            port=paramiko.config.SSH_PORT,
                            username: str = None,
                            password: str = None,
                            pkey: str = None,
                            **kwargs) -> paramiko.SSHClient:
                __doc__ = paramiko.SSHClient.__doc__
            
                ssh_client.set_missing_host_key_policy(paramiko.AutoAddPolicy)
            
                if isinstance(pkey, str):
                    pkey = paramiko.RSAKey.from_private_key(io.StringIO(pkey))
            
                hostname = hostname.strip()
                username = username.strip()
            
                if password == '':
                    with suppress(paramiko.ssh_exception.AuthenticationException):
                        ssh_client.connect(hostname, port, username=username, password='', pkey=pkey, **kwargs)
                    ssh_client.get_transport().auth_none(username)
                else:
                    ssh_client.connect(hostname, port, username=username, password=password, pkey=pkey, **kwargs)
                return ssh_client
            
            
            class MyThread(QThread):
                def run(self) -> None:
                    client = paramiko.SSHClient()
                    while True:
                        ssh_connect(client, '192.168.1.4', 22, 'root', ' ')
                        if client.get_transport().active:
                            client.close()
                        time.sleep(0.1)
            
            
            class Window(QWidget):
                def __init__(self, parent=None):
                    super().__init__(parent)
                    self._thread: typing.Optional[QThread] = None
                    self.grid = QGridLayout(self)
                    self.btn = QPushButton("Start", self)
                    self.btn.clicked.connect(self.on_btn_clicked)
                    self.grid.addWidget(self.btn)
            
                def on_btn_clicked(self, clicked=False):
                    self.btn.setDisabled(True)
                    if self._thread is not None:
                        if self._thread.isRunning():
                            self._thread.terminate()
                        self._thread = None
                        self.btn.setText("Start")
                    else:
                        self._thread = MyThread()
                        self._thread.setTerminationEnabled(True)
                        self._thread.start()
                        self.btn.setText("Stop")
                    self.btn.setDisabled(False)
            
            
            def main():
                app = QApplication(sys.argv)
                window = Window()
                window.show()
            
                sys.exit(app.exec_())
            
            
            if __name__ == '__main__':
                main()
            
            

            After running the code, I clicked the Start button twice. The second button was used to call and kill the running QThread, but the following error occurred. This problem does not exist in PySide6:

            Fatal Python error: This thread state must be current when releasing
            Python runtime state: initialized
            
            Thread 0x00007f8476872700 (most recent call first):
              File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages/paramiko/agent.py", line 100 in _read_all
              File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages/paramiko/agent.py", line 95 in _send_message
              File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages/paramiko/agent.py", line 434 in sign_ssh_data
              File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages/paramiko/auth_handler.py", line 395 in _parse_service_accept
              File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages/paramiko/transport.py", line 2164 in run
              File "/usr/lib/python3.8/threading.py", line 932 in _bootstrap_inner
              File "/usr/lib/python3.8/threading.py", line 890 in _bootstrap
            
            Current thread 0x00007f84770b3700 (most recent call first):
              File "/usr/lib/python3.8/threading.py", line 306 in wait
              File "/usr/lib/python3.8/threading.py", line 558 in wait
              File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages/paramiko/auth_handler.py", line 240 in wait_for_response
              File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages/paramiko/transport.py", line 1635 in auth_publickey
              File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages/paramiko/client.py", line 702 in _auth
              File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages/paramiko/client.py", line 435 in connect
              File "/home/wo/Dev/main.py", line 34 in ssh_connect
              File "/home/wo/Dev/main.py", line 42 in run
            
            Thread 0x00007f849f735740 (most recent call first):
              File "/home/wo/Dev/main.py", line 77 in main
              File "/home/wo/Dev/main.py", line 81 in <module>
            
            Process finished with exit code 134 (interrupted by signal 6: SIGABRT)
            
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            • B brianmeasley

              @jsulm

              Sorry, I will not run anything. That you can do and post the stack trace here.

              This is the code that runs:

              import io
              import sys
              import time
              import typing
              from contextlib import suppress
              
              import paramiko
              from PySide2.QtCore import QThread
              from PySide2.QtWidgets import QApplication, QWidget, QGridLayout, QPushButton
              
              
              def ssh_connect(ssh_client: paramiko.SSHClient,
                              hostname: str,
                              port=paramiko.config.SSH_PORT,
                              username: str = None,
                              password: str = None,
                              pkey: str = None,
                              **kwargs) -> paramiko.SSHClient:
                  __doc__ = paramiko.SSHClient.__doc__
              
                  ssh_client.set_missing_host_key_policy(paramiko.AutoAddPolicy)
              
                  if isinstance(pkey, str):
                      pkey = paramiko.RSAKey.from_private_key(io.StringIO(pkey))
              
                  hostname = hostname.strip()
                  username = username.strip()
              
                  if password == '':
                      with suppress(paramiko.ssh_exception.AuthenticationException):
                          ssh_client.connect(hostname, port, username=username, password='', pkey=pkey, **kwargs)
                      ssh_client.get_transport().auth_none(username)
                  else:
                      ssh_client.connect(hostname, port, username=username, password=password, pkey=pkey, **kwargs)
                  return ssh_client
              
              
              class MyThread(QThread):
                  def run(self) -> None:
                      client = paramiko.SSHClient()
                      while True:
                          ssh_connect(client, '192.168.1.4', 22, 'root', ' ')
                          if client.get_transport().active:
                              client.close()
                          time.sleep(0.1)
              
              
              class Window(QWidget):
                  def __init__(self, parent=None):
                      super().__init__(parent)
                      self._thread: typing.Optional[QThread] = None
                      self.grid = QGridLayout(self)
                      self.btn = QPushButton("Start", self)
                      self.btn.clicked.connect(self.on_btn_clicked)
                      self.grid.addWidget(self.btn)
              
                  def on_btn_clicked(self, clicked=False):
                      self.btn.setDisabled(True)
                      if self._thread is not None:
                          if self._thread.isRunning():
                              self._thread.terminate()
                          self._thread = None
                          self.btn.setText("Start")
                      else:
                          self._thread = MyThread()
                          self._thread.setTerminationEnabled(True)
                          self._thread.start()
                          self.btn.setText("Stop")
                      self.btn.setDisabled(False)
              
              
              def main():
                  app = QApplication(sys.argv)
                  window = Window()
                  window.show()
              
                  sys.exit(app.exec_())
              
              
              if __name__ == '__main__':
                  main()
              
              

              After running the code, I clicked the Start button twice. The second button was used to call and kill the running QThread, but the following error occurred. This problem does not exist in PySide6:

              Fatal Python error: This thread state must be current when releasing
              Python runtime state: initialized
              
              Thread 0x00007f8476872700 (most recent call first):
                File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages/paramiko/agent.py", line 100 in _read_all
                File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages/paramiko/agent.py", line 95 in _send_message
                File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages/paramiko/agent.py", line 434 in sign_ssh_data
                File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages/paramiko/auth_handler.py", line 395 in _parse_service_accept
                File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages/paramiko/transport.py", line 2164 in run
                File "/usr/lib/python3.8/threading.py", line 932 in _bootstrap_inner
                File "/usr/lib/python3.8/threading.py", line 890 in _bootstrap
              
              Current thread 0x00007f84770b3700 (most recent call first):
                File "/usr/lib/python3.8/threading.py", line 306 in wait
                File "/usr/lib/python3.8/threading.py", line 558 in wait
                File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages/paramiko/auth_handler.py", line 240 in wait_for_response
                File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages/paramiko/transport.py", line 1635 in auth_publickey
                File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages/paramiko/client.py", line 702 in _auth
                File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages/paramiko/client.py", line 435 in connect
                File "/home/wo/Dev/main.py", line 34 in ssh_connect
                File "/home/wo/Dev/main.py", line 42 in run
              
              Thread 0x00007f849f735740 (most recent call first):
                File "/home/wo/Dev/main.py", line 77 in main
                File "/home/wo/Dev/main.py", line 81 in <module>
              
              Process finished with exit code 134 (interrupted by signal 6: SIGABRT)
              
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              Hi,

              There might have been changed between PySide6 and 2 with regard to thread termination however and in any case, thread termination like that should be the last resort when there's no other solution.

              Since you thread contains an infinite loop, you should use QThread::isInterruptionRequested and QThread::requestInterruption to cleanly stop your thread.

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                @jsulm

                Sorry, I will not run anything. That you can do and post the stack trace here.

                This is the code that runs:

                import io
                import sys
                import time
                import typing
                from contextlib import suppress
                
                import paramiko
                from PySide2.QtCore import QThread
                from PySide2.QtWidgets import QApplication, QWidget, QGridLayout, QPushButton
                
                
                def ssh_connect(ssh_client: paramiko.SSHClient,
                                hostname: str,
                                port=paramiko.config.SSH_PORT,
                                username: str = None,
                                password: str = None,
                                pkey: str = None,
                                **kwargs) -> paramiko.SSHClient:
                    __doc__ = paramiko.SSHClient.__doc__
                
                    ssh_client.set_missing_host_key_policy(paramiko.AutoAddPolicy)
                
                    if isinstance(pkey, str):
                        pkey = paramiko.RSAKey.from_private_key(io.StringIO(pkey))
                
                    hostname = hostname.strip()
                    username = username.strip()
                
                    if password == '':
                        with suppress(paramiko.ssh_exception.AuthenticationException):
                            ssh_client.connect(hostname, port, username=username, password='', pkey=pkey, **kwargs)
                        ssh_client.get_transport().auth_none(username)
                    else:
                        ssh_client.connect(hostname, port, username=username, password=password, pkey=pkey, **kwargs)
                    return ssh_client
                
                
                class MyThread(QThread):
                    def run(self) -> None:
                        client = paramiko.SSHClient()
                        while True:
                            ssh_connect(client, '192.168.1.4', 22, 'root', ' ')
                            if client.get_transport().active:
                                client.close()
                            time.sleep(0.1)
                
                
                class Window(QWidget):
                    def __init__(self, parent=None):
                        super().__init__(parent)
                        self._thread: typing.Optional[QThread] = None
                        self.grid = QGridLayout(self)
                        self.btn = QPushButton("Start", self)
                        self.btn.clicked.connect(self.on_btn_clicked)
                        self.grid.addWidget(self.btn)
                
                    def on_btn_clicked(self, clicked=False):
                        self.btn.setDisabled(True)
                        if self._thread is not None:
                            if self._thread.isRunning():
                                self._thread.terminate()
                            self._thread = None
                            self.btn.setText("Start")
                        else:
                            self._thread = MyThread()
                            self._thread.setTerminationEnabled(True)
                            self._thread.start()
                            self.btn.setText("Stop")
                        self.btn.setDisabled(False)
                
                
                def main():
                    app = QApplication(sys.argv)
                    window = Window()
                    window.show()
                
                    sys.exit(app.exec_())
                
                
                if __name__ == '__main__':
                    main()
                
                

                After running the code, I clicked the Start button twice. The second button was used to call and kill the running QThread, but the following error occurred. This problem does not exist in PySide6:

                Fatal Python error: This thread state must be current when releasing
                Python runtime state: initialized
                
                Thread 0x00007f8476872700 (most recent call first):
                  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages/paramiko/agent.py", line 100 in _read_all
                  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages/paramiko/agent.py", line 95 in _send_message
                  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages/paramiko/agent.py", line 434 in sign_ssh_data
                  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages/paramiko/auth_handler.py", line 395 in _parse_service_accept
                  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages/paramiko/transport.py", line 2164 in run
                  File "/usr/lib/python3.8/threading.py", line 932 in _bootstrap_inner
                  File "/usr/lib/python3.8/threading.py", line 890 in _bootstrap
                
                Current thread 0x00007f84770b3700 (most recent call first):
                  File "/usr/lib/python3.8/threading.py", line 306 in wait
                  File "/usr/lib/python3.8/threading.py", line 558 in wait
                  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages/paramiko/auth_handler.py", line 240 in wait_for_response
                  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages/paramiko/transport.py", line 1635 in auth_publickey
                  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages/paramiko/client.py", line 702 in _auth
                  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages/paramiko/client.py", line 435 in connect
                  File "/home/wo/Dev/main.py", line 34 in ssh_connect
                  File "/home/wo/Dev/main.py", line 42 in run
                
                Thread 0x00007f849f735740 (most recent call first):
                  File "/home/wo/Dev/main.py", line 77 in main
                  File "/home/wo/Dev/main.py", line 81 in <module>
                
                Process finished with exit code 134 (interrupted by signal 6: SIGABRT)
                
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                @brianmeasley said in Pyside2.QtCore.QThread.terminate() Cause python to crash:

                This is the code that runs:

                                self._thread.terminate()
                

                Using QThread::terminate() is a terrible idea:
                Warning: This function is dangerous and its use is discouraged. The thread can be terminated at any point in its code path. Threads can be terminated while modifying data. There is no chance for the thread to clean up after itself, unlock any held mutexes, etc.

                On Windows, it appears to be implemented with TerminateThread():
                TerminateThread is a dangerous function that should only be used in the most extreme cases. You should call TerminateThread only if you know exactly what the target thread is doing, and you control all of the code that the target thread could possibly be running at the time of the termination.

                The QThread unix implementation uses pthread_cancel(). The documentation I've seen doesn't carry as bold of a caveat, but it should.

                After running the code, I clicked the Start button twice. The second button was used to call and kill the running QThread, but the following error occurred. This problem does not exist in PySide6:

                Fatal Python error: This thread state must be current when releasing
                Python runtime state: initialized
                

                That looks like the python interpreter complaining that its internal state is not as expected, as might occur if the thread of execution was unexpectedly terminated...

                Asking a question about code? http://eel.is/iso-c++/testcase/

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                  Hi,

                  There might have been changed between PySide6 and 2 with regard to thread termination however and in any case, thread termination like that should be the last resort when there's no other solution.

                  Since you thread contains an infinite loop, you should use QThread::isInterruptionRequested and QThread::requestInterruption to cleanly stop your thread.

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                  #12

                  @SGaist @jeremy_k

                  thank you for your reply,
                  It's true that using QThread.terminate() to kill a thread is not a good idea.
                  I would like to ask a related question. If a thread is executing a long-running task and the task puts the thread in a blocked state, what should I do if I want to terminate the blocked thread immediately?
                  For example, in the ssh_connect code above, if the while loop in the run method is removed and a connection is made, a crash will still occur. If this is placed in an SSH terminal program/SFTP file manager, the user wants to stop logging in/refresh the directory immediately. How to implement the operation?

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                    I found the solution! I checked the official binding source code of PySide, and in fact PySide2-5.15.2.1 and later versions fix this bug.

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                      @SGaist @jeremy_k

                      thank you for your reply,
                      It's true that using QThread.terminate() to kill a thread is not a good idea.
                      I would like to ask a related question. If a thread is executing a long-running task and the task puts the thread in a blocked state, what should I do if I want to terminate the blocked thread immediately?
                      For example, in the ssh_connect code above, if the while loop in the run method is removed and a connection is made, a crash will still occur. If this is placed in an SSH terminal program/SFTP file manager, the user wants to stop logging in/refresh the directory immediately. How to implement the operation?

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                      wrote on last edited by JonB
                      #14

                      @brianmeasley said in Pyside2.QtCore.QThread.terminate() Cause python to crash:

                      If a thread is executing a long-running task and the task puts the thread in a blocked state, what should I do if I want to terminate the blocked thread immediately?

                      You may have already found your solution. But just to pick up on this. If you expect to want the ability to interrupt/terminate a thread what you are supposed to do is have it run an event loop. Then you can either send it a Qt signal or PySide2.QtCore.QThread.requestInterruption() and isInterruptionRequested(). I think it's worth knowing about these, maybe for other cases if it does not fit yours.

                      If what it calls in some external blocking operation and you cannot be running an event (or other) loop checking for "interruption request" then I agree you are in trouble. And you may have to terminate the thread. But this may indeed do bad things to the state of your execution, system resource usage or whatever. But then you would equally be in a pickle for this whether you used a thread or not.

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                        wrote on last edited by
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                        The usual solution, when you have a long running operation is to check at regular points in your code for termination request. It's not always possible but it's a pretty standard solution. Then, if you really have to kill the thread, don't restart it, create a new one that will be clean.

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                        • JonBJ JonB

                          @brianmeasley said in Pyside2.QtCore.QThread.terminate() Cause python to crash:

                          If a thread is executing a long-running task and the task puts the thread in a blocked state, what should I do if I want to terminate the blocked thread immediately?

                          You may have already found your solution. But just to pick up on this. If you expect to want the ability to interrupt/terminate a thread what you are supposed to do is have it run an event loop. Then you can either send it a Qt signal or PySide2.QtCore.QThread.requestInterruption() and isInterruptionRequested(). I think it's worth knowing about these, maybe for other cases if it does not fit yours.

                          If what it calls in some external blocking operation and you cannot be running an event (or other) loop checking for "interruption request" then I agree you are in trouble. And you may have to terminate the thread. But this may indeed do bad things to the state of your execution, system resource usage or whatever. But then you would equally be in a pickle for this whether you used a thread or not.

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                          @JonB said in Pyside2.QtCore.QThread.terminate() Cause python to crash:

                          If what it calls in some external blocking operation and you cannot be running an event (or other) loop checking for "interruption request" then I agree you are in trouble. And you may have to terminate the thread. But this may indeed do bad things to the state of your execution, system resource usage or whatever. But then you would equally be in a pickle for this whether you used a thread or not.

                          Make it an external process. If it must be unceremoniously terminated, leave no part of the process running in a possibly corrupted state.

                          Asking a question about code? http://eel.is/iso-c++/testcase/

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                            @JonB said in Pyside2.QtCore.QThread.terminate() Cause python to crash:

                            If what it calls in some external blocking operation and you cannot be running an event (or other) loop checking for "interruption request" then I agree you are in trouble. And you may have to terminate the thread. But this may indeed do bad things to the state of your execution, system resource usage or whatever. But then you would equally be in a pickle for this whether you used a thread or not.

                            Make it an external process. If it must be unceremoniously terminated, leave no part of the process running in a possibly corrupted state.

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                            @jeremy_k said in Pyside2.QtCore.QThread.terminate() Cause python to crash:

                            Make it an external process.

                            If you can. You know there are plenty of circumstances where this may not be suitable/possible.

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                              @jeremy_k said in Pyside2.QtCore.QThread.terminate() Cause python to crash:

                              Make it an external process.

                              If you can. You know there are plenty of circumstances where this may not be suitable/possible.

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                              @JonB said in Pyside2.QtCore.QThread.terminate() Cause python to crash:

                              @jeremy_k said in Pyside2.QtCore.QThread.terminate() Cause python to crash:

                              Make it an external process.

                              If you can. You know there are plenty of circumstances where this may not be suitable/possible.

                              Use explicit communication rather than relying on pointers and a shared address space. If a thread is killed in the middle of modifying data in that address space, you can't count on that data having sane values. The same applies to modifying without explicit signaling/barriers. I am unaware of any systems that reorder communication within a single i/o channel. That makes earlier data potentially usable even with later data is absent.

                              Excluding resource limited environments where the extra communication exceeds the available time or memory, I don't know of situations where a second thread can do something that a second process can't. Different interfaces may be required.

                              This is a monolithic versus microkernel discussion, except in user space.

                              Asking a question about code? http://eel.is/iso-c++/testcase/

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                                @JonB said in Pyside2.QtCore.QThread.terminate() Cause python to crash:

                                @jeremy_k said in Pyside2.QtCore.QThread.terminate() Cause python to crash:

                                Make it an external process.

                                If you can. You know there are plenty of circumstances where this may not be suitable/possible.

                                Use explicit communication rather than relying on pointers and a shared address space. If a thread is killed in the middle of modifying data in that address space, you can't count on that data having sane values. The same applies to modifying without explicit signaling/barriers. I am unaware of any systems that reorder communication within a single i/o channel. That makes earlier data potentially usable even with later data is absent.

                                Excluding resource limited environments where the extra communication exceeds the available time or memory, I don't know of situations where a second thread can do something that a second process can't. Different interfaces may be required.

                                This is a monolithic versus microkernel discussion, except in user space.

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                                @jeremy_k said in Pyside2.QtCore.QThread.terminate() Cause python to crash:

                                I don't know of situations where a second thread can do something that a second process can't.

                                Our experiences differ them. But let's leave it at that, may have nothing to with OP's situation. I have never disagreed that terminating is bad, and that external process might be preferable. Let's see how OP gets on with that.

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