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  • S stefanwoe

    @stefanwoe Let me give you a better example: A 3rd party Library we use throws a unexpected exception. We catch this exception and we want to display it (many users just send screenshots instead of logfiles). In some cases the library can not recover from the problem and/or it gets difficult to handle this before it ever had happened. In such a situation the dialog just should "Pause"/Halt the application and display appropriate information - but the application shall not execute any more. We may then i.e. create a Windows Dump file etc. for post mortem analysis before our program possibly will die.

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    @stefanwoe
    As I understand it. Whether you use exec(), which will create its own event loop, or show(), which will will leave the main event loop running, either way Qt will process new events. And I believe you are saying you want to forbid this while the message box is showing(?).

    Since I see you are Windows, have you considered maybe using a modal native Windows messagebox, which I am hoping would block the Qt event loop while displayed, would that satisfy you requirement?

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      @stefanwoe
      As I understand it. Whether you use exec(), which will create its own event loop, or show(), which will will leave the main event loop running, either way Qt will process new events. And I believe you are saying you want to forbid this while the message box is showing(?).

      Since I see you are Windows, have you considered maybe using a modal native Windows messagebox, which I am hoping would block the Qt event loop while displayed, would that satisfy you requirement?

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      @JonB Yes, i consider writing a Native Dialog for Windows, and one for the Mac. But actually it would be fairly easy to add such a flag to i.e. exec() that forbids the current behavior.
      And i still wonder how the approach in the linked Stackoverflow (above) answer would work. this seems to solve the problem.

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        @JonB Yes, i consider writing a Native Dialog for Windows, and one for the Mac. But actually it would be fairly easy to add such a flag to i.e. exec() that forbids the current behavior.
        And i still wonder how the approach in the linked Stackoverflow (above) answer would work. this seems to solve the problem.

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        @stefanwoe said in QMessageBox::warning replacement that wont process the event loop:

        And i still wonder how the approach in the linked Stackoverflow (above) answer would work. this seems to solve the problem.

        It does not seem to solve your issue at all to me. You want a message box to run without Qt processing an event loop and therefore dispatching other events. I say Qt does/can not do that. As @SGaist observed earlier:

        It just means that they impose a single event loop throughout the whole application lifetime.

        So they are just using the single main event loop even when the dialog is showing, instead of the dialog having its own event loop when you call exec(). I do not see any difference wrt your situation. That is my understanding.

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        • S stefanwoe

          @JonB Yes, i consider writing a Native Dialog for Windows, and one for the Mac. But actually it would be fairly easy to add such a flag to i.e. exec() that forbids the current behavior.
          And i still wonder how the approach in the linked Stackoverflow (above) answer would work. this seems to solve the problem.

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          @stefanwoe said in QMessageBox::warning replacement that wont process the event loop:

          And i still wonder how the approach in the linked Stackoverflow (above) answer would work. this seems to solve the problem.

          Just like I suggested on the previous page!

          In order to be able to click on any button or even to draw/show the dialog, the event loop has to be processed.

          That is either done by the main event loop or by one QMessagebox is spawning or by one you yourself create. BUT event processing will be happening, if you wan't a responsive UI-window.

          In your case you want only the main event loop to be spinning.


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          • J.HilkJ J.Hilk

            @stefanwoe said in QMessageBox::warning replacement that wont process the event loop:

            And i still wonder how the approach in the linked Stackoverflow (above) answer would work. this seems to solve the problem.

            Just like I suggested on the previous page!

            In order to be able to click on any button or even to draw/show the dialog, the event loop has to be processed.

            That is either done by the main event loop or by one QMessagebox is spawning or by one you yourself create. BUT event processing will be happening, if you wan't a responsive UI-window.

            In your case you want only the main event loop to be spinning.

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            In your case you want only the main event loop to be spinning.

            How could that be done? Is there a example?

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            • S stefanwoe

              In your case you want only the main event loop to be spinning.

              How could that be done? Is there a example?

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              @stefanwoe

              #ifndef SOMECLASS_H
              #define SOMECLASS_H
              
              #include <QWidget>
              #include <QMessageBox>
              
              
              class SomeClass : public QWidget
              {
                  Q_OBJECT
              public:
                  explicit SomeClass(QWidget *parent = nullptr);
              
                  void oldBlocking();
              
                  void newNonBlocking();
              signals:
              
              private slots:
                  void continuationOfnewNonBlocking();
              
              private:
                  bool someCondition() {return  rand() % 2;}
              
              private:
                  QMessageBox m_messageBox;
                  QMetaObject::Connection m_lastConnect;
              };
              
              #endif // SOMECLASS_H
              
              

              #include "someclass.h"
              
              #include <QDebug>
              
              SomeClass::SomeClass(QWidget *parent) : QWidget(parent)
              {
                  m_messageBox.setWindowModality(Qt::ApplicationModal);
              }
              
              void SomeClass::oldBlocking()
              {
                  if(!someCondition()) {
                      QMessageBox::information(this, "Bla", "blubb");
                  }
                  
                  qDebug() << "Do stuff as normal";
              }
              
              void SomeClass::newNonBlocking()
              {
                  if(!someCondition()) {
                      m_messageBox.setText("blubb");
                      m_lastConnect = connect(&m_messageBox, &QMessageBox::accepted, this, &SomeClass::continuationOfnewNonBlocking);
                      m_messageBox.show();
                  } else {
                      continuationOfnewNonBlocking();
                  }
              }
              
              void SomeClass::continuationOfnewNonBlocking()
              {
                  QObject::disconnect(m_lastConnect);
                  qDebug() << "Do stuff as normal";
              }
              
              

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                Depending on the modality wanted, open makes it window modal.

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                • J.HilkJ J.Hilk

                  @stefanwoe said in QMessageBox::warning replacement that wont process the event loop:

                  And i still wonder how the approach in the linked Stackoverflow (above) answer would work. this seems to solve the problem.

                  Just like I suggested on the previous page!

                  In order to be able to click on any button or even to draw/show the dialog, the event loop has to be processed.

                  That is either done by the main event loop or by one QMessagebox is spawning or by one you yourself create. BUT event processing will be happening, if you wan't a responsive UI-window.

                  In your case you want only the main event loop to be spinning.

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                  @J-Hilk said in QMessageBox::warning replacement that wont process the event loop:

                  In your case you want only the main event loop to be spinning.

                  My understanding is that the OP says he wants/demands no Qt event loop to be running while his dialog is shown, that is the problem....

                  If you read his original report, for example, a window receives an "activate" event for some reason, and he does not want that or any other event to be processed....

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                  • JonBJ JonB

                    @J-Hilk said in QMessageBox::warning replacement that wont process the event loop:

                    In your case you want only the main event loop to be spinning.

                    My understanding is that the OP says he wants/demands no Qt event loop to be running while his dialog is shown, that is the problem....

                    If you read his original report, for example, a window receives an "activate" event for some reason, and he does not want that or any other event to be processed....

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                    @JonB

                    @J.Hilk said

                    In order to be able to click on any button or even to draw/show the dialog, the event loop has to be processed.

                    That is either done by the main event loop or by one QMessagebox is spawning or by one you yourself create. BUT event processing will be happening, if you wan't a responsive UI-window.

                    @stefanwoe said in QMessageBox::warning replacement that wont process the event loop:

                    In your case you want only the main event loop to be spinning.

                    How could that be done? Is there a example?

                    therefore my answer/example


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                    • J.HilkJ J.Hilk

                      @JonB

                      @J.Hilk said

                      In order to be able to click on any button or even to draw/show the dialog, the event loop has to be processed.

                      That is either done by the main event loop or by one QMessagebox is spawning or by one you yourself create. BUT event processing will be happening, if you wan't a responsive UI-window.

                      @stefanwoe said in QMessageBox::warning replacement that wont process the event loop:

                      In your case you want only the main event loop to be spinning.

                      How could that be done? Is there a example?

                      therefore my answer/example

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                      @J-Hilk
                      If you say so! Certainly the OP should try what you have suggested :)

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                      • J.HilkJ J.Hilk

                        @stefanwoe

                        #ifndef SOMECLASS_H
                        #define SOMECLASS_H
                        
                        #include <QWidget>
                        #include <QMessageBox>
                        
                        
                        class SomeClass : public QWidget
                        {
                            Q_OBJECT
                        public:
                            explicit SomeClass(QWidget *parent = nullptr);
                        
                            void oldBlocking();
                        
                            void newNonBlocking();
                        signals:
                        
                        private slots:
                            void continuationOfnewNonBlocking();
                        
                        private:
                            bool someCondition() {return  rand() % 2;}
                        
                        private:
                            QMessageBox m_messageBox;
                            QMetaObject::Connection m_lastConnect;
                        };
                        
                        #endif // SOMECLASS_H
                        
                        

                        #include "someclass.h"
                        
                        #include <QDebug>
                        
                        SomeClass::SomeClass(QWidget *parent) : QWidget(parent)
                        {
                            m_messageBox.setWindowModality(Qt::ApplicationModal);
                        }
                        
                        void SomeClass::oldBlocking()
                        {
                            if(!someCondition()) {
                                QMessageBox::information(this, "Bla", "blubb");
                            }
                            
                            qDebug() << "Do stuff as normal";
                        }
                        
                        void SomeClass::newNonBlocking()
                        {
                            if(!someCondition()) {
                                m_messageBox.setText("blubb");
                                m_lastConnect = connect(&m_messageBox, &QMessageBox::accepted, this, &SomeClass::continuationOfnewNonBlocking);
                                m_messageBox.show();
                            } else {
                                continuationOfnewNonBlocking();
                            }
                        }
                        
                        void SomeClass::continuationOfnewNonBlocking()
                        {
                            QObject::disconnect(m_lastConnect);
                            qDebug() << "Do stuff as normal";
                        }
                        
                        
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                        @J-Hilk Thanks very much for your efforts!
                        Unfortunately this does not what i need. If i write

                        SomeClass testMessageBox(this);
                        testMessageBox.newNonBlocking();
                        nextStatement();
                        

                        A Dialog window is shown but code keeps executing nextStatement(); etc. before i have a chance to press any button or even to read the text of the MessageBox as the it disappears when the object "testMessageBox" is destroyed as its scope is left. oldBlocking() behaves like the existing QMessageBox .

                        What i need is a call like

                        testMessageBox.execWithoutProcessingUnrelatedEvents();
                        

                        This call should BLOCK (not nonBlock) execution of further code (it shall not cal nextStatement() as long as the MessageBox is shown) and it should only process events for its own window. From the StackOverflow post this seems possible - but i dont know how to do this.
                        The class you supplied does not do this.

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                          The OP probably worked around this somehow already but, the issue by itself is still valid.

                          The problem is, this is not well-supported at the OS level. There are some workarounds though:

                          1. Use a helper program. Run it, let it show the message, and wait for it to finish. Should work on any OS.

                          2. On Windows, you can use a thread instead of a program, but only with native UI. Qt UI doesn’t support multithreading. And to my knowledge, on macOS all UI is limited to the main thread.

                          3. Technically, on X11 it is possible to create an additional connection to the display and use that one to show the message. But good luck finding a toolkit that supports that, or showing a readable message without one.

                          4. At least on Windows, it is possible to filter events by window. So e.g. on Windows, you could create a dialog and then run an event loop with GetMessage(&msg, hwnd_your_dialog, 0, 0). This is somewhat fragile but should work. See the docs for GetMessage for details.

                          5. Technically, X11 supports the same. But like in (3) that requires working with raw X11 which is quite different from working with raw WinAPI. I don’t know whether macOS support anything similar.

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                            The OP probably worked around this somehow already but, the issue by itself is still valid.

                            The problem is, this is not well-supported at the OS level. There are some workarounds though:

                            1. Use a helper program. Run it, let it show the message, and wait for it to finish. Should work on any OS.

                            2. On Windows, you can use a thread instead of a program, but only with native UI. Qt UI doesn’t support multithreading. And to my knowledge, on macOS all UI is limited to the main thread.

                            3. Technically, on X11 it is possible to create an additional connection to the display and use that one to show the message. But good luck finding a toolkit that supports that, or showing a readable message without one.

                            4. At least on Windows, it is possible to filter events by window. So e.g. on Windows, you could create a dialog and then run an event loop with GetMessage(&msg, hwnd_your_dialog, 0, 0). This is somewhat fragile but should work. See the docs for GetMessage for details.

                            5. Technically, X11 supports the same. But like in (3) that requires working with raw X11 which is quite different from working with raw WinAPI. I don’t know whether macOS support anything similar.

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                            stefanwoe
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                            @numzero No, i did not found a well workaround for that.

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                              Hi, you could try spinning your own event loop inside SomeClass.
                              Say you add a QEventLoop instance in the .h file:

                              ...
                              private:
                                  QEventloop m_eventLoop;
                                  QMessageBox m_messageBox;
                                  QMetaObject::Connection m_lastConnect;
                              };
                              

                              then in SomeClass.cpp:

                              ,,,
                              void SomeClass::newNonBlocking()
                              {
                                  if(!someCondition()) {
                                      m_messageBox.setText("blubb");
                                      m_lastConnect = connect(&m_messageBox, &QMessageBox::accepted, this, &SomeClass::continuationOfnewNonBlocking);
                                      m_messageBox.show();
                                      m_eventLoop.exec();  // spin here and wait for .exit()
                                  } else {
                                      continuationOfnewNonBlocking();
                                  }
                              }
                              
                              void SomeClass::continuationOfnewNonBlocking()
                              {
                                  QObject::disconnect(m_lastConnect);
                                  m_eventLoop.exit();
                                  qDebug() << "Do stuff as normal";
                              }
                              ```
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                              • hskoglundH hskoglund

                                Hi, you could try spinning your own event loop inside SomeClass.
                                Say you add a QEventLoop instance in the .h file:

                                ...
                                private:
                                    QEventloop m_eventLoop;
                                    QMessageBox m_messageBox;
                                    QMetaObject::Connection m_lastConnect;
                                };
                                

                                then in SomeClass.cpp:

                                ,,,
                                void SomeClass::newNonBlocking()
                                {
                                    if(!someCondition()) {
                                        m_messageBox.setText("blubb");
                                        m_lastConnect = connect(&m_messageBox, &QMessageBox::accepted, this, &SomeClass::continuationOfnewNonBlocking);
                                        m_messageBox.show();
                                        m_eventLoop.exec();  // spin here and wait for .exit()
                                    } else {
                                        continuationOfnewNonBlocking();
                                    }
                                }
                                
                                void SomeClass::continuationOfnewNonBlocking()
                                {
                                    QObject::disconnect(m_lastConnect);
                                    m_eventLoop.exit();
                                    qDebug() << "Do stuff as normal";
                                }
                                ```
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                                numzero
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                                @hskoglund To my knowledge, QEventloop::exec will process all events and not only those related to the message box, and that’s exactly what causes problems for the OP.

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                                • hskoglundH hskoglund

                                  Hi, you could try spinning your own event loop inside SomeClass.
                                  Say you add a QEventLoop instance in the .h file:

                                  ...
                                  private:
                                      QEventloop m_eventLoop;
                                      QMessageBox m_messageBox;
                                      QMetaObject::Connection m_lastConnect;
                                  };
                                  

                                  then in SomeClass.cpp:

                                  ,,,
                                  void SomeClass::newNonBlocking()
                                  {
                                      if(!someCondition()) {
                                          m_messageBox.setText("blubb");
                                          m_lastConnect = connect(&m_messageBox, &QMessageBox::accepted, this, &SomeClass::continuationOfnewNonBlocking);
                                          m_messageBox.show();
                                          m_eventLoop.exec();  // spin here and wait for .exit()
                                      } else {
                                          continuationOfnewNonBlocking();
                                      }
                                  }
                                  
                                  void SomeClass::continuationOfnewNonBlocking()
                                  {
                                      QObject::disconnect(m_lastConnect);
                                      m_eventLoop.exit();
                                      qDebug() << "Do stuff as normal";
                                  }
                                  ```
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                                  stefanwoe
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                                  #40

                                  @hskoglund I already tried something like that.

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