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  • LinArcXL LinArcX

    @Bonnie

    Hmmm.. Interesing. This is the output of dependency walker on dsengine.dll:

    • c:\windows\system32\GDI32.DLL
    • c:\windows\system32\MF.DLL
    • c:\windows\system32\MFPLAT.DLL
    • c:\windows\system32\D3D9.DLL
    • c:\windows\system32\DXVA2.DLL
    • c:\windows\system32\WINMM.DLL
    • c:\windows\system32\EVR.DLL
    • c:\windows\system32\OLE32.DLL
    • c:\windows\system32\OLEAUT32.DLL
    • c:\tools\neovim\neovim\bin\QT5WIDGETS.DLL
    • c:\tools\neovim\neovim\bin\QT5GUI.DLL
    • c:\tools\neovim\neovim\bin\QT5CORE.DLL
    • c:\windows\system32\USER32.DLL
    • c:\windows\system32\MSVCP120.DLL
    • c:\windows\system32\MSVCR120.DLL
    • c:\windows\system32\KERNEL32.DLL

    So, yes. Seems it depends on D3D9.dll that is parts of DirectX. But I installed DirectX 9 on windows xp and checked that d3d9.dll exists in c:\windows\system32.

    Edit: I've noticed that except mf.dll and mfplat.dll other dlls exists in c:\windows\system32.

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    wrote on last edited by Bonnie
    #13

    @LinArcX
    Well, this is not how we usually use dependency walker.
    In the middle list area, check the yellow icons for missing dlls and red icons for dlls that missing functions.
    Some can be ignored referring to https://www.dependencywalker.com/faq.html

    Edit: If it depends on mf.dll and mfplat.dll, that can be the problem. Maybe your compiling links newer DX libs that not supporting xp.
    Edit2: I've searched on google and others say that if mf.dll and mfplat.dll are lazy loaded, then that can also be ignored.

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    • B Bonnie

      @LinArcX
      Well, this is not how we usually use dependency walker.
      In the middle list area, check the yellow icons for missing dlls and red icons for dlls that missing functions.
      Some can be ignored referring to https://www.dependencywalker.com/faq.html

      Edit: If it depends on mf.dll and mfplat.dll, that can be the problem. Maybe your compiling links newer DX libs that not supporting xp.
      Edit2: I've searched on google and others say that if mf.dll and mfplat.dll are lazy loaded, then that can also be ignored.

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      wrote on last edited by
      #14

      @Bonnie
      Lazy loaded? What that means?

      I download them from the internet and copy in system directory.

      But nothing changed.

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      • B Bonnie

        @LinArcX
        Well, this is not how we usually use dependency walker.
        In the middle list area, check the yellow icons for missing dlls and red icons for dlls that missing functions.
        Some can be ignored referring to https://www.dependencywalker.com/faq.html

        Edit: If it depends on mf.dll and mfplat.dll, that can be the problem. Maybe your compiling links newer DX libs that not supporting xp.
        Edit2: I've searched on google and others say that if mf.dll and mfplat.dll are lazy loaded, then that can also be ignored.

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        wrote on last edited by LinArcX
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        @Bonnie said in Can't play video on windows xp:

        In the middle list area, check the yellow icons for missing dlls and red icons for dlls that missing functions.

        depwalker.png

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        • LinArcXL LinArcX

          @Bonnie said in Can't play video on windows xp:

          In the middle list area, check the yellow icons for missing dlls and red icons for dlls that missing functions.

          depwalker.png

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          wrote on last edited by
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          @LinArcX
          Lazy loaded dlls would have a hourglass mark with the icon, like MPR.DLL / IESHIMS.DLL in your picture.
          Your MF.DLL and MFPLAT.DLL seems to be direct linked, also your D3D9.dll is red so it may miss functions.
          I would guess it is due to the DX lib when you compile Qt, as I said.
          I don't have any 5.6.3 dlls on my machine but I have a deployed application of 5.5.1. Checking by dependency walker, the official prebuilt msvc2013 dsengine.dll of 5.5.1 doesn't depend on mf.dll and mfplat.dll directly.

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          • B Bonnie

            @LinArcX
            Lazy loaded dlls would have a hourglass mark with the icon, like MPR.DLL / IESHIMS.DLL in your picture.
            Your MF.DLL and MFPLAT.DLL seems to be direct linked, also your D3D9.dll is red so it may miss functions.
            I would guess it is due to the DX lib when you compile Qt, as I said.
            I don't have any 5.6.3 dlls on my machine but I have a deployed application of 5.5.1. Checking by dependency walker, the official prebuilt msvc2013 dsengine.dll of 5.5.1 doesn't depend on mf.dll and mfplat.dll directly.

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            @Bonnie

            Maybe your compiling links newer DX libs that not supporting xp. I would guess it is due to the DX lib when you compile Qt, as I said.

            You mean i should install Directx9 on my windows7, remove all other DirectX versions and compile qt5.6.3 again?

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            • LinArcXL LinArcX

              @Bonnie

              Maybe your compiling links newer DX libs that not supporting xp. I would guess it is due to the DX lib when you compile Qt, as I said.

              You mean i should install Directx9 on my windows7, remove all other DirectX versions and compile qt5.6.3 again?

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              wrote on last edited by
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              @LinArcX
              You may be able to compile only the dsengine plugin.
              But I don't know how to make sure you link the xp supported DX lib, since I don't target xp for at least 5 years...

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              • B Bonnie

                @LinArcX
                You may be able to compile only the dsengine plugin.
                But I don't know how to make sure you link the xp supported DX lib, since I don't target xp for at least 5 years...

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                #19

                @Bonnie
                What aboot this:

                https://forum.qt.io/topic/59838/building-qt-from-source-on-windows/7

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                  #20

                  Hi, one other thing I saw in the dependency walker's output, it wants the Qt files from another Qt directory on your XP machine:
                  c:\tools\neovim\neovim\bin

                  Make sure that this other version exists and is also Qt 5.6.3 Release for MSVC 2013.

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                  • hskoglundH hskoglund

                    Hi, one other thing I saw in the dependency walker's output, it wants the Qt files from another Qt directory on your XP machine:
                    c:\tools\neovim\neovim\bin

                    Make sure that this other version exists and is also Qt 5.6.3 Release for MSVC 2013.

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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #21

                    @hskoglund
                    Hello. I have some questions:

                    1. Why application loads these .dlls from that weird directory instead of current directory of my application? (I used windeployqt)
                    2. Lets say, i fixed it. Do it fix main issue?(Showing video)
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                    • LinArcXL LinArcX

                      @hskoglund
                      Hello. I have some questions:

                      1. Why application loads these .dlls from that weird directory instead of current directory of my application? (I used windeployqt)
                      2. Lets say, i fixed it. Do it fix main issue?(Showing video)
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                      mrjj
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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #22

                      @LinArcX
                      Hi
                      1: Ask Windows :) It is its run time loader that controls this.
                      2: It could fix it. However, the normal effect of mixing Qt version is crashes so
                      dont get to much hope up.

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                      • mrjjM mrjj

                        @LinArcX
                        Hi
                        1: Ask Windows :) It is its run time loader that controls this.
                        2: It could fix it. However, the normal effect of mixing Qt version is crashes so
                        dont get to much hope up.

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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #23

                        @mrjj I mean why it didn't look in current directory first, if it looked why doesn't load it? Since those dlls exists beside main exe file.

                        I noticed that on windows xp that doesn't have this directory(c:\tools\neovim\neovim\bin\), DependencyWalker complains that it can't find dlls:
                        depXP.PNG
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                        • LinArcXL LinArcX

                          @mrjj I mean why it didn't look in current directory first, if it looked why doesn't load it? Since those dlls exists beside main exe file.

                          I noticed that on windows xp that doesn't have this directory(c:\tools\neovim\neovim\bin\), DependencyWalker complains that it can't find dlls:
                          depXP.PNG
                          `

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                          mrjj
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                          wrote on last edited by mrjj
                          #24

                          @LinArcX
                          Well back in the Xp days they didn't load better i guess.
                          In the newer version of windows, you can add a manifest file to tweaking it and at some point they also allowed
                          side by side loading of Dlls with same name etc.
                          https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/dlls/dynamic-link-library-search-order

                          well (c:\tools\neovim\neovim\bin) seems just to be
                          https://github.com/neovim/neovim
                          but it does uses Qt for GUI .

                          Hmm so the DSENGINE cannot find its support DLLS ?
                          those missing files are in your app folder ?

                          Is there a reason you cant use a virtual machine with Xp (or real pc ) to install Qt5.6
                          and what ever compiler you wish and simply compile and xp version for xp.
                          And compile a win 7+ on win 7 ?
                          Im not 100% sure you can have a one .exe that works on both as the backend changed alot.

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                          • mrjjM mrjj

                            @LinArcX
                            Well back in the Xp days they didn't load better i guess.
                            In the newer version of windows, you can add a manifest file to tweaking it and at some point they also allowed
                            side by side loading of Dlls with same name etc.
                            https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/dlls/dynamic-link-library-search-order

                            well (c:\tools\neovim\neovim\bin) seems just to be
                            https://github.com/neovim/neovim
                            but it does uses Qt for GUI .

                            Hmm so the DSENGINE cannot find its support DLLS ?
                            those missing files are in your app folder ?

                            Is there a reason you cant use a virtual machine with Xp (or real pc ) to install Qt5.6
                            and what ever compiler you wish and simply compile and xp version for xp.
                            And compile a win 7+ on win 7 ?
                            Im not 100% sure you can have a one .exe that works on both as the backend changed alot.

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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #25

                            @mrjj

                            you can add a manifest file to tweaking it and at some point they also allowed side by side loading of Dlls with same name etc.

                            It works on xp?

                            side by side loading of Dlls with same name etc.> those missing files are in your app folder ?

                            Exactly.

                            Is there a reason you cant use a virtual machine with Xp (or real pc ) to install Qt5.6 and what ever compiler you wish and simply compile and xp version for xp.

                            I tried to compile qt 5.5.0 on windos xp.(It's a virtualbox machine). It complains about some functions that only exists on x64 architecture.

                            Im not 100% sure you can have a one .exe that works on both as the backend changed alot.

                            So, you mean i should compile whole application in each os separately?

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                            • LinArcXL LinArcX

                              @mrjj

                              you can add a manifest file to tweaking it and at some point they also allowed side by side loading of Dlls with same name etc.

                              It works on xp?

                              side by side loading of Dlls with same name etc.> those missing files are in your app folder ?

                              Exactly.

                              Is there a reason you cant use a virtual machine with Xp (or real pc ) to install Qt5.6 and what ever compiler you wish and simply compile and xp version for xp.

                              I tried to compile qt 5.5.0 on windos xp.(It's a virtualbox machine). It complains about some functions that only exists on x64 architecture.

                              Im not 100% sure you can have a one .exe that works on both as the backend changed alot.

                              So, you mean i should compile whole application in each os separately?

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                              mrjj
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                              @LinArcX said in Can't play video on windows xp:

                              @mrjj

                              you can add a manifest file to tweaking it and at some point they also allowed side by side loading of Dlls with same name etc.

                              • It works on xp?
                                I think so but not sure if it can help you load the right dlls.
                                https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/sbscs/manifests

                              • I tried to compile qt 5.5.0 on windos xp.(It's a virtualbox machine). It complains about some functions that only exists on x64 architecture.
                                But Qt5.6 still supports Xp so why compile your self? You add something ?

                              • So, you mean i should compile whole application in each os separately?
                                Well that is how a few people I know still do - to have xp version. Its only SP3 Xp's that works but I guess
                                all remaining xp's are patched.
                                It might be less work than to make sure it links to older directX in newer windows. (if thats even possible)

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                              • mrjjM mrjj

                                @LinArcX said in Can't play video on windows xp:

                                @mrjj

                                you can add a manifest file to tweaking it and at some point they also allowed side by side loading of Dlls with same name etc.

                                • It works on xp?
                                  I think so but not sure if it can help you load the right dlls.
                                  https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/sbscs/manifests

                                • I tried to compile qt 5.5.0 on windos xp.(It's a virtualbox machine). It complains about some functions that only exists on x64 architecture.
                                  But Qt5.6 still supports Xp so why compile your self? You add something ?

                                • So, you mean i should compile whole application in each os separately?
                                  Well that is how a few people I know still do - to have xp version. Its only SP3 Xp's that works but I guess
                                  all remaining xp's are patched.
                                  It might be less work than to make sure it links to older directX in newer windows. (if thats even possible)

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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #27

                                @mrjj said in Can't play video on windows xp:

                                But Qt5.6 still supports Xp so why compile your self? You add something ?

                                Which version of 5.6? 5.6.3?

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                                • LinArcXL LinArcX

                                  @mrjj said in Can't play video on windows xp:

                                  But Qt5.6 still supports Xp so why compile your self? You add something ?

                                  Which version of 5.6? 5.6.3?

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                                  wrote on last edited by
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                                  @LinArcX
                                  Yes. I saw someone write he used that version in 32 bit and it worked for
                                  Xp. I didnt personally tried it, though.

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                                    wrote on last edited by LinArcX
                                    #29

                                    I have same issue with playing video with QtWebEngien and QtQuick. Both of them can't play video on windows xp.

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                                      This is the output of running QtWebEngine application on real hardware(Windows xp):

                                      00000001	0.00000000	[2736] QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() checking directory path "D:/release_webengine/platforms" ...	
                                      00000002	0.00167815	[2736] QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() looking at "D:/release_webengine/platforms/qwindows.dll"	
                                      00000003	0.01299774	[2736] Found metadata in lib D:/release_webengine/platforms/qwindows.dll, metadata=	
                                      00000004	0.01299774	[2736] {	
                                      00000005	0.01299774	[2736]     "IID": "org.qt-project.Qt.QPA.QPlatformIntegrationFactoryInterface.5.3",	
                                      00000006	0.01299774	[2736]     "MetaData": {	
                                      00000007	0.01299774	[2736]         "Keys": [	
                                      00000008	0.01299774	[2736]             "windows"	
                                      00000009	0.01299774	[2736]         ]	
                                      00000010	0.01299774	[2736]     },	
                                      00000011	0.01299774	[2736]     "className": "QWindowsIntegrationPlugin",	
                                      00000012	0.01299774	[2736]     "debug": false,	
                                      00000013	0.01299774	[2736]     "version": 328961	
                                      00000014	0.01299774	[2736] }	
                                      00000015	0.01299774	[2736] 	
                                      00000016	0.01299774	[2736] 	
                                      00000017	0.02331553	[2736] Got keys from plugin meta data ("windows")	
                                      00000018	0.05049497	[2736] loaded library "D:/release_webengine/platforms/qwindows.dll"	
                                      00000019	0.05494274	[2736] QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() checking directory path "D:/release_webengine/platformthemes" ...	
                                      00000020	0.05584676	[2736] QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() checking directory path "D:/release_webengine/platforminputcontexts" ...	
                                      00000021	4.12752199	[2736] class QWindowsEGLStaticContext *__cdecl QWindowsEGLStaticContext::create(class QFlags<enum QWindowsOpenGLTester::Renderer>): Could not initialize EGL display: error 0x3001	
                                      00000022	4.12752199	[2736] 	
                                      00000023	4.12766695	[2736] class QWindowsEGLStaticContext *__cdecl QWindowsEGLStaticContext::create(class QFlags<enum QWindowsOpenGLTester::Renderer>): When using ANGLE, check if d3dcompiler_4x.dll is available	
                                      00000024	4.64033127	[2736] QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() checking directory path "D:/release_webengine/styles" ...	
                                      00000025	4.95253468	[2736] QFactoryLoader::QFactoryLoader() checking directory path "D:/release_webengine/accessiblebridge" ...
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