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  • B Bonnie

    @LinArcX
    It uses OutputDebugString on windows instead of stdout/stderr, so the output can't be redirected.
    One solution is to use DebugView.
    (BTW, your above command to set environment variable is not right.)
    Open DebugView, then in cmd.exe:

    SET QT_DEBUG_PLUGINS=1
    MyQtWidgetsTest.exe
    

    The output will be shown in DebugView.

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    #10

    @Bonnie
    Here you are:
    https://gist.github.com/LinArcX/f124ffb178d4c1d84c84e7e39f37f3a3

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    • LinArcXL LinArcX

      @Bonnie
      Here you are:
      https://gist.github.com/LinArcX/f124ffb178d4c1d84c84e7e39f37f3a3

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      wrote on last edited by Bonnie
      #11

      @LinArcX
      I think the key point is

      QLibraryPrivate::loadPlugin failed on "Z:/workspace/c++/qt/build-AtmQtWidgetsTest-Desktop_Qt_5_6_3_MSVC2013_32_bit-Release/release/mediaservice/dsengine.dll" : "Cannot load library Z:\\workspace\\c++\\qt\\build-AtmQtWidgetsTest-Desktop_Qt_5_6_3_MSVC2013_32_bit-Release\\release\\mediaservice\\dsengine.dll: The specified module could not be found.
      

      That usually means there're some dependency dlls missing so the plugin dll cannot be loaded.
      Try using DependencyWalker to open dsengine.dll to check the dependencies.
      Maybe xp needs to install directx? I'm not sure...

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      • B Bonnie

        @LinArcX
        I think the key point is

        QLibraryPrivate::loadPlugin failed on "Z:/workspace/c++/qt/build-AtmQtWidgetsTest-Desktop_Qt_5_6_3_MSVC2013_32_bit-Release/release/mediaservice/dsengine.dll" : "Cannot load library Z:\\workspace\\c++\\qt\\build-AtmQtWidgetsTest-Desktop_Qt_5_6_3_MSVC2013_32_bit-Release\\release\\mediaservice\\dsengine.dll: The specified module could not be found.
        

        That usually means there're some dependency dlls missing so the plugin dll cannot be loaded.
        Try using DependencyWalker to open dsengine.dll to check the dependencies.
        Maybe xp needs to install directx? I'm not sure...

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        wrote on last edited by LinArcX
        #12

        @Bonnie

        Hmmm.. Interesing. This is the output of dependency walker on dsengine.dll:

        • c:\windows\system32\GDI32.DLL
        • c:\windows\system32\MF.DLL
        • c:\windows\system32\MFPLAT.DLL
        • c:\windows\system32\D3D9.DLL
        • c:\windows\system32\DXVA2.DLL
        • c:\windows\system32\WINMM.DLL
        • c:\windows\system32\EVR.DLL
        • c:\windows\system32\OLE32.DLL
        • c:\windows\system32\OLEAUT32.DLL
        • c:\tools\neovim\neovim\bin\QT5WIDGETS.DLL
        • c:\tools\neovim\neovim\bin\QT5GUI.DLL
        • c:\tools\neovim\neovim\bin\QT5CORE.DLL
        • c:\windows\system32\USER32.DLL
        • c:\windows\system32\MSVCP120.DLL
        • c:\windows\system32\MSVCR120.DLL
        • c:\windows\system32\KERNEL32.DLL

        So, yes. Seems it depends on D3D9.dll that is parts of DirectX. But I installed DirectX 9 on windows xp and checked that d3d9.dll exists in c:\windows\system32.

        Edit: I've noticed that except mf.dll and mfplat.dll other dlls exists in c:\windows\system32.

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        • LinArcXL LinArcX

          @Bonnie

          Hmmm.. Interesing. This is the output of dependency walker on dsengine.dll:

          • c:\windows\system32\GDI32.DLL
          • c:\windows\system32\MF.DLL
          • c:\windows\system32\MFPLAT.DLL
          • c:\windows\system32\D3D9.DLL
          • c:\windows\system32\DXVA2.DLL
          • c:\windows\system32\WINMM.DLL
          • c:\windows\system32\EVR.DLL
          • c:\windows\system32\OLE32.DLL
          • c:\windows\system32\OLEAUT32.DLL
          • c:\tools\neovim\neovim\bin\QT5WIDGETS.DLL
          • c:\tools\neovim\neovim\bin\QT5GUI.DLL
          • c:\tools\neovim\neovim\bin\QT5CORE.DLL
          • c:\windows\system32\USER32.DLL
          • c:\windows\system32\MSVCP120.DLL
          • c:\windows\system32\MSVCR120.DLL
          • c:\windows\system32\KERNEL32.DLL

          So, yes. Seems it depends on D3D9.dll that is parts of DirectX. But I installed DirectX 9 on windows xp and checked that d3d9.dll exists in c:\windows\system32.

          Edit: I've noticed that except mf.dll and mfplat.dll other dlls exists in c:\windows\system32.

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          Bonnie
          wrote on last edited by Bonnie
          #13

          @LinArcX
          Well, this is not how we usually use dependency walker.
          In the middle list area, check the yellow icons for missing dlls and red icons for dlls that missing functions.
          Some can be ignored referring to https://www.dependencywalker.com/faq.html

          Edit: If it depends on mf.dll and mfplat.dll, that can be the problem. Maybe your compiling links newer DX libs that not supporting xp.
          Edit2: I've searched on google and others say that if mf.dll and mfplat.dll are lazy loaded, then that can also be ignored.

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          • B Bonnie

            @LinArcX
            Well, this is not how we usually use dependency walker.
            In the middle list area, check the yellow icons for missing dlls and red icons for dlls that missing functions.
            Some can be ignored referring to https://www.dependencywalker.com/faq.html

            Edit: If it depends on mf.dll and mfplat.dll, that can be the problem. Maybe your compiling links newer DX libs that not supporting xp.
            Edit2: I've searched on google and others say that if mf.dll and mfplat.dll are lazy loaded, then that can also be ignored.

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            wrote on last edited by
            #14

            @Bonnie
            Lazy loaded? What that means?

            I download them from the internet and copy in system directory.

            But nothing changed.

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            • B Bonnie

              @LinArcX
              Well, this is not how we usually use dependency walker.
              In the middle list area, check the yellow icons for missing dlls and red icons for dlls that missing functions.
              Some can be ignored referring to https://www.dependencywalker.com/faq.html

              Edit: If it depends on mf.dll and mfplat.dll, that can be the problem. Maybe your compiling links newer DX libs that not supporting xp.
              Edit2: I've searched on google and others say that if mf.dll and mfplat.dll are lazy loaded, then that can also be ignored.

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              wrote on last edited by LinArcX
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              @Bonnie said in Can't play video on windows xp:

              In the middle list area, check the yellow icons for missing dlls and red icons for dlls that missing functions.

              depwalker.png

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              • LinArcXL LinArcX

                @Bonnie said in Can't play video on windows xp:

                In the middle list area, check the yellow icons for missing dlls and red icons for dlls that missing functions.

                depwalker.png

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                wrote on last edited by
                #16

                @LinArcX
                Lazy loaded dlls would have a hourglass mark with the icon, like MPR.DLL / IESHIMS.DLL in your picture.
                Your MF.DLL and MFPLAT.DLL seems to be direct linked, also your D3D9.dll is red so it may miss functions.
                I would guess it is due to the DX lib when you compile Qt, as I said.
                I don't have any 5.6.3 dlls on my machine but I have a deployed application of 5.5.1. Checking by dependency walker, the official prebuilt msvc2013 dsengine.dll of 5.5.1 doesn't depend on mf.dll and mfplat.dll directly.

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                • B Bonnie

                  @LinArcX
                  Lazy loaded dlls would have a hourglass mark with the icon, like MPR.DLL / IESHIMS.DLL in your picture.
                  Your MF.DLL and MFPLAT.DLL seems to be direct linked, also your D3D9.dll is red so it may miss functions.
                  I would guess it is due to the DX lib when you compile Qt, as I said.
                  I don't have any 5.6.3 dlls on my machine but I have a deployed application of 5.5.1. Checking by dependency walker, the official prebuilt msvc2013 dsengine.dll of 5.5.1 doesn't depend on mf.dll and mfplat.dll directly.

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #17

                  @Bonnie

                  Maybe your compiling links newer DX libs that not supporting xp. I would guess it is due to the DX lib when you compile Qt, as I said.

                  You mean i should install Directx9 on my windows7, remove all other DirectX versions and compile qt5.6.3 again?

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                  • LinArcXL LinArcX

                    @Bonnie

                    Maybe your compiling links newer DX libs that not supporting xp. I would guess it is due to the DX lib when you compile Qt, as I said.

                    You mean i should install Directx9 on my windows7, remove all other DirectX versions and compile qt5.6.3 again?

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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #18

                    @LinArcX
                    You may be able to compile only the dsengine plugin.
                    But I don't know how to make sure you link the xp supported DX lib, since I don't target xp for at least 5 years...

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                    • B Bonnie

                      @LinArcX
                      You may be able to compile only the dsengine plugin.
                      But I don't know how to make sure you link the xp supported DX lib, since I don't target xp for at least 5 years...

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                      #19

                      @Bonnie
                      What aboot this:

                      https://forum.qt.io/topic/59838/building-qt-from-source-on-windows/7

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                        hskoglund
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                        #20

                        Hi, one other thing I saw in the dependency walker's output, it wants the Qt files from another Qt directory on your XP machine:
                        c:\tools\neovim\neovim\bin

                        Make sure that this other version exists and is also Qt 5.6.3 Release for MSVC 2013.

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                        • hskoglundH hskoglund

                          Hi, one other thing I saw in the dependency walker's output, it wants the Qt files from another Qt directory on your XP machine:
                          c:\tools\neovim\neovim\bin

                          Make sure that this other version exists and is also Qt 5.6.3 Release for MSVC 2013.

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                          LinArcX
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #21

                          @hskoglund
                          Hello. I have some questions:

                          1. Why application loads these .dlls from that weird directory instead of current directory of my application? (I used windeployqt)
                          2. Lets say, i fixed it. Do it fix main issue?(Showing video)
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                          • LinArcXL LinArcX

                            @hskoglund
                            Hello. I have some questions:

                            1. Why application loads these .dlls from that weird directory instead of current directory of my application? (I used windeployqt)
                            2. Lets say, i fixed it. Do it fix main issue?(Showing video)
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                            mrjj
                            Lifetime Qt Champion
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #22

                            @LinArcX
                            Hi
                            1: Ask Windows :) It is its run time loader that controls this.
                            2: It could fix it. However, the normal effect of mixing Qt version is crashes so
                            dont get to much hope up.

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                            • mrjjM mrjj

                              @LinArcX
                              Hi
                              1: Ask Windows :) It is its run time loader that controls this.
                              2: It could fix it. However, the normal effect of mixing Qt version is crashes so
                              dont get to much hope up.

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                              LinArcX
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #23

                              @mrjj I mean why it didn't look in current directory first, if it looked why doesn't load it? Since those dlls exists beside main exe file.

                              I noticed that on windows xp that doesn't have this directory(c:\tools\neovim\neovim\bin\), DependencyWalker complains that it can't find dlls:
                              depXP.PNG
                              `

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                              • LinArcXL LinArcX

                                @mrjj I mean why it didn't look in current directory first, if it looked why doesn't load it? Since those dlls exists beside main exe file.

                                I noticed that on windows xp that doesn't have this directory(c:\tools\neovim\neovim\bin\), DependencyWalker complains that it can't find dlls:
                                depXP.PNG
                                `

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                                mrjj
                                Lifetime Qt Champion
                                wrote on last edited by mrjj
                                #24

                                @LinArcX
                                Well back in the Xp days they didn't load better i guess.
                                In the newer version of windows, you can add a manifest file to tweaking it and at some point they also allowed
                                side by side loading of Dlls with same name etc.
                                https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/dlls/dynamic-link-library-search-order

                                well (c:\tools\neovim\neovim\bin) seems just to be
                                https://github.com/neovim/neovim
                                but it does uses Qt for GUI .

                                Hmm so the DSENGINE cannot find its support DLLS ?
                                those missing files are in your app folder ?

                                Is there a reason you cant use a virtual machine with Xp (or real pc ) to install Qt5.6
                                and what ever compiler you wish and simply compile and xp version for xp.
                                And compile a win 7+ on win 7 ?
                                Im not 100% sure you can have a one .exe that works on both as the backend changed alot.

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                                • mrjjM mrjj

                                  @LinArcX
                                  Well back in the Xp days they didn't load better i guess.
                                  In the newer version of windows, you can add a manifest file to tweaking it and at some point they also allowed
                                  side by side loading of Dlls with same name etc.
                                  https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/dlls/dynamic-link-library-search-order

                                  well (c:\tools\neovim\neovim\bin) seems just to be
                                  https://github.com/neovim/neovim
                                  but it does uses Qt for GUI .

                                  Hmm so the DSENGINE cannot find its support DLLS ?
                                  those missing files are in your app folder ?

                                  Is there a reason you cant use a virtual machine with Xp (or real pc ) to install Qt5.6
                                  and what ever compiler you wish and simply compile and xp version for xp.
                                  And compile a win 7+ on win 7 ?
                                  Im not 100% sure you can have a one .exe that works on both as the backend changed alot.

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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #25

                                  @mrjj

                                  you can add a manifest file to tweaking it and at some point they also allowed side by side loading of Dlls with same name etc.

                                  It works on xp?

                                  side by side loading of Dlls with same name etc.> those missing files are in your app folder ?

                                  Exactly.

                                  Is there a reason you cant use a virtual machine with Xp (or real pc ) to install Qt5.6 and what ever compiler you wish and simply compile and xp version for xp.

                                  I tried to compile qt 5.5.0 on windos xp.(It's a virtualbox machine). It complains about some functions that only exists on x64 architecture.

                                  Im not 100% sure you can have a one .exe that works on both as the backend changed alot.

                                  So, you mean i should compile whole application in each os separately?

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                                  • LinArcXL LinArcX

                                    @mrjj

                                    you can add a manifest file to tweaking it and at some point they also allowed side by side loading of Dlls with same name etc.

                                    It works on xp?

                                    side by side loading of Dlls with same name etc.> those missing files are in your app folder ?

                                    Exactly.

                                    Is there a reason you cant use a virtual machine with Xp (or real pc ) to install Qt5.6 and what ever compiler you wish and simply compile and xp version for xp.

                                    I tried to compile qt 5.5.0 on windos xp.(It's a virtualbox machine). It complains about some functions that only exists on x64 architecture.

                                    Im not 100% sure you can have a one .exe that works on both as the backend changed alot.

                                    So, you mean i should compile whole application in each os separately?

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                                    mrjj
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                                    wrote on last edited by
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                                    @LinArcX said in Can't play video on windows xp:

                                    @mrjj

                                    you can add a manifest file to tweaking it and at some point they also allowed side by side loading of Dlls with same name etc.

                                    • It works on xp?
                                      I think so but not sure if it can help you load the right dlls.
                                      https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/sbscs/manifests

                                    • I tried to compile qt 5.5.0 on windos xp.(It's a virtualbox machine). It complains about some functions that only exists on x64 architecture.
                                      But Qt5.6 still supports Xp so why compile your self? You add something ?

                                    • So, you mean i should compile whole application in each os separately?
                                      Well that is how a few people I know still do - to have xp version. Its only SP3 Xp's that works but I guess
                                      all remaining xp's are patched.
                                      It might be less work than to make sure it links to older directX in newer windows. (if thats even possible)

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                                    • mrjjM mrjj

                                      @LinArcX said in Can't play video on windows xp:

                                      @mrjj

                                      you can add a manifest file to tweaking it and at some point they also allowed side by side loading of Dlls with same name etc.

                                      • It works on xp?
                                        I think so but not sure if it can help you load the right dlls.
                                        https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/sbscs/manifests

                                      • I tried to compile qt 5.5.0 on windos xp.(It's a virtualbox machine). It complains about some functions that only exists on x64 architecture.
                                        But Qt5.6 still supports Xp so why compile your self? You add something ?

                                      • So, you mean i should compile whole application in each os separately?
                                        Well that is how a few people I know still do - to have xp version. Its only SP3 Xp's that works but I guess
                                        all remaining xp's are patched.
                                        It might be less work than to make sure it links to older directX in newer windows. (if thats even possible)

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                                      @mrjj said in Can't play video on windows xp:

                                      But Qt5.6 still supports Xp so why compile your self? You add something ?

                                      Which version of 5.6? 5.6.3?

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                                      • LinArcXL LinArcX

                                        @mrjj said in Can't play video on windows xp:

                                        But Qt5.6 still supports Xp so why compile your self? You add something ?

                                        Which version of 5.6? 5.6.3?

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                                        mrjj
                                        Lifetime Qt Champion
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #28

                                        @LinArcX
                                        Yes. I saw someone write he used that version in 32 bit and it worked for
                                        Xp. I didnt personally tried it, though.

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                                          wrote on last edited by LinArcX
                                          #29

                                          I have same issue with playing video with QtWebEngien and QtQuick. Both of them can't play video on windows xp.

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