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  • JonBJ JonB

    @mrjj said in How to enter Images in a listWidget inside tabWidget:

    If you must use comments, make sure it simply repeats what the code said

    Absolutely spot-on with this! And not just comments, it drives me mad that often that actual end-user documentation/Help for the FooBar button says "Does a FooBar". Gee, I would never have guessed without that! But what does that actually do? Will it reformat my disk?

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    mrjj
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    wrote on last edited by mrjj
    #13

    @JonB
    ahah exactly. :)

    Like sitting with a very expensive raid controller and
    have the field that says
    Idle time for GX44 interrupt core.
    and the docs says

    "Allows you to change the value"

    No shit sherlock..

    ps. maybe we should fork the thread :)

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    • SGaistS SGaist

      @J-Hilk said in How to enter Images in a listWidget inside tabWidget:

      @mrjj
      😨 fine šŸ™„

      But let's be honest, everything starts with int as in int main()

      Unless you use Python :-P

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      #14

      @SGaist I bet ya, the python interpreter starts with int main( šŸ˜Ž

      @mrjj

      ps. maybe we should fork the thread :)

      probably a good idea, we derailed quite a lot


      Be aware of the Qt Code of Conduct, when posting : https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct


      Q: What's that?
      A: It's blue light.
      Q: What does it do?
      A: It turns blue.

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      • J.HilkJ J.Hilk

        @SGaist I bet ya, the python interpreter starts with int main( šŸ˜Ž

        @mrjj

        ps. maybe we should fork the thread :)

        probably a good idea, we derailed quite a lot

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        wrote on last edited by
        #15

        @J-Hilk
        No as derailed as my first attempt to move it :)))

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        • mrjjM mrjj

          @J-Hilk
          No as derailed as my first attempt to move it :)))

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          wrote on last edited by
          #16

          @mrjj I noticed!

          It even went 10 years to the past 🤣


          Be aware of the Qt Code of Conduct, when posting : https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct


          Q: What's that?
          A: It's blue light.
          Q: What does it do?
          A: It turns blue.

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          • fcarneyF Offline
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            wrote on last edited by
            #17

            This is how my designs usually go:

            • Customer: We want to do "this"
            • Me: What do you want "this" to look like?
            • Customer: I don't know
            • Me: <creates interface and basic functionality>
            • Me: How about "this"?
            • Customer: Well we don't want "that"! Here is what we want...
            • Me: <thinking>Why didn't they say that before?

            So for anything I build that sequence events is usually how every project starts. Rarely do I get specs at all. Even from my management who programs. They usually say "this" with no real details.

            C++ is a perfectly valid school of magic.

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            • fcarneyF fcarney

              This is how my designs usually go:

              • Customer: We want to do "this"
              • Me: What do you want "this" to look like?
              • Customer: I don't know
              • Me: <creates interface and basic functionality>
              • Me: How about "this"?
              • Customer: Well we don't want "that"! Here is what we want...
              • Me: <thinking>Why didn't they say that before?

              So for anything I build that sequence events is usually how every project starts. Rarely do I get specs at all. Even from my management who programs. They usually say "this" with no real details.

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              aha_1980
              Lifetime Qt Champion
              wrote on last edited by
              #18

              Hi @fcarney,

              Me: <creates interface and basic functionality>

              Don't you have a bot for that? ;)

              Regards

              Qt has to stay free or it will die.

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              • fcarneyF fcarney

                This is how my designs usually go:

                • Customer: We want to do "this"
                • Me: What do you want "this" to look like?
                • Customer: I don't know
                • Me: <creates interface and basic functionality>
                • Me: How about "this"?
                • Customer: Well we don't want "that"! Here is what we want...
                • Me: <thinking>Why didn't they say that before?

                So for anything I build that sequence events is usually how every project starts. Rarely do I get specs at all. Even from my management who programs. They usually say "this" with no real details.

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                wrote on last edited by
                #19

                @fcarney
                So true! At least I know I am not alone....

                One step worse: your example implies when they see it they say "we didn't want it done (looking) that way, we wanted it done this way". But I often get: "we don't want that at all, we want it to do something totally different from what we said we wanted it to do". :(

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                  fcarney
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #20

                  That happens sometimes too.

                  C++ is a perfectly valid school of magic.

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                    Chris Kawa
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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #21

                    Don't worry guys. We can do anything. Absolutely anything. We are the experts.

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                      fcarney
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #22

                      @Chris-Kawa said in The Art of programming:

                      We can do anything.

                      I have been in meetings like that. That is why I prefer technical meetings with only technical people.

                      C++ is a perfectly valid school of magic.

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                        Kent-Dorfman
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                        #23

                        Even though everyone is entitled to my opinion, I should probably stay out of this conversation.

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                        • Kent-DorfmanK Kent-Dorfman

                          Even though everyone is entitled to my opinion, I should probably stay out of this conversation.

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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #24

                          @Kent-Dorfman
                          we are just having fun so please feel free to share :)

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                            aha_1980
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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #25

                            "We just need to get this feature in now. Fast. We'll care about the architecture and the cleanup later. Promised."

                            That's how it goes for every feature.

                            Qt has to stay free or it will die.

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                            • Kent-DorfmanK Offline
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                              Kent-Dorfman
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #26

                              Unfortunately the "art of programming" is being replaced with the "assembly line mentality" of programming. Can you say agile?

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                              • Kent-DorfmanK Kent-Dorfman

                                Unfortunately the "art of programming" is being replaced with the "assembly line mentality" of programming. Can you say agile?

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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #27

                                @Kent-Dorfman I think I see what you mean. I was asked to add some features to some code. The architecture was very basic and inflexible. I rewrote the code and now it is some of the fastest in that industry. The customer was not sure what to think at first, then they realized their code was much more maintainable and higher performing. They were very satisfied with the code in the end. They wanted a cheap fix, they got a better design.

                                C++ is a perfectly valid school of magic.

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                                • fcarneyF fcarney

                                  @Kent-Dorfman I think I see what you mean. I was asked to add some features to some code. The architecture was very basic and inflexible. I rewrote the code and now it is some of the fastest in that industry. The customer was not sure what to think at first, then they realized their code was much more maintainable and higher performing. They were very satisfied with the code in the end. They wanted a cheap fix, they got a better design.

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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #28

                                  @fcarney I'm often tempted to borrow the motto of the late great Red Adair, "I can do it right; I can do it fast; I can do it cheap. Pick two."

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                                  • mzimmersM mzimmers

                                    @fcarney I'm often tempted to borrow the motto of the late great Red Adair, "I can do it right; I can do it fast; I can do it cheap. Pick two."

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                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #29

                                    @mzimmers I'm pretty sure a total denial of that motto is a hard requirement to be in any company business unit: manager, executive, operations director, marketer, etc.

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