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  • fcarneyF Offline
    fcarneyF Offline
    fcarney
    wrote on last edited by fcarney
    #19

    I eliminated the extra index (probably compiler already did this before):

    void deleteMemoryList(char** list){
        for(int index=0; index<MEM_SEGS; index++){
            char* tmp = list[index];
            delete tmp;
        }
        delete list;
    }
    
    void deleteMemoryListNull(char** list){
        for(int index=0; index<MEM_SEGS; index++){
            char* tmp = list[index];
            delete tmp;
            tmp = nullptr;
        }
        delete list;
        list = nullptr;
    }
    

    Results:

    877
    1369
    

    Edit: Real world usage? I really highly doubt it. That is a LOT of iterations of delete. So I would say the extra cycles are negligible.

    Edit2:
    Pointer math:

    void deleteMemoryList(char** list){
        for(int index=0; index<MEM_SEGS; index++){
            char** tmp = &(list[index]);
            delete *tmp;
        }
        delete list;
    }
    
    void deleteMemoryListNull(char** list){
        for(int index=0; index<MEM_SEGS; index++){
            char** tmp = &(list[index]);
            delete *tmp;
            *tmp = nullptr;
        }
        delete list;
        list = nullptr;
    }
    

    Results:

    853
    1307
    

    Sometimes apples and apples is hard.

    C++ is a perfectly valid school of magic.

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    • fcarneyF fcarney

      I eliminated the extra index (probably compiler already did this before):

      void deleteMemoryList(char** list){
          for(int index=0; index<MEM_SEGS; index++){
              char* tmp = list[index];
              delete tmp;
          }
          delete list;
      }
      
      void deleteMemoryListNull(char** list){
          for(int index=0; index<MEM_SEGS; index++){
              char* tmp = list[index];
              delete tmp;
              tmp = nullptr;
          }
          delete list;
          list = nullptr;
      }
      

      Results:

      877
      1369
      

      Edit: Real world usage? I really highly doubt it. That is a LOT of iterations of delete. So I would say the extra cycles are negligible.

      Edit2:
      Pointer math:

      void deleteMemoryList(char** list){
          for(int index=0; index<MEM_SEGS; index++){
              char** tmp = &(list[index]);
              delete *tmp;
          }
          delete list;
      }
      
      void deleteMemoryListNull(char** list){
          for(int index=0; index<MEM_SEGS; index++){
              char** tmp = &(list[index]);
              delete *tmp;
              *tmp = nullptr;
          }
          delete list;
          list = nullptr;
      }
      

      Results:

      853
      1307
      

      Sometimes apples and apples is hard.

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      JonB
      wrote on last edited by JonB
      #20

      @fcarney
      Since this is the lounge... Surprised by your findings (in earlier examples). What exactly is the difference in the assembly between the two versions? What is being generated for your tmp = nullptr;? (Not the later *tmp = nullptr;, that's different.)

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      • fcarneyF Offline
        fcarneyF Offline
        fcarney
        wrote on last edited by
        #21

        @JonB said in Recurring C++ and Qt anti-patterns:

        tmp = nullptr;

        I changed it to not update a local variable. char* tmp is local, so setting it to null is just setting a local variable to null. So it was setting the wrong area of memory to null. That is why I took the address of where that pointer is stored.

        The assembler for tmp = nullptr in previous incarnation:

        movq   $0x0,-0x8(%rbp)
        

        The assembler for *tmp = nullptr in latest incarnation:

        mov    -0x8(%rbp),%rax
        movq   $0x0,(%rax)
        

        But you are right, the tmp = nullptr is more representative.
        The timing is not much different.

        C++ is a perfectly valid school of magic.

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        • fcarneyF Offline
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          fcarney
          wrote on last edited by fcarney
          #22

          Okay, I think I am done, but here is my last incarnation:

          #include <QCoreApplication>
          #include <QElapsedTimer>
          #include <QDebug>
          
          #define MEM_SEG_LEN 8
          #define MEM_SEGS 100000000 // 846 1315 // assignment
          #define MEM_SEGS 100000000 // 885 1349 // correct assignment
          //#define MEM_SEGS 100
          
          char** createMemoryList(){
              char** list = new char*[MEM_SEGS];
              for(int index=0; index<MEM_SEGS; index++){
                  list[index]=new char[MEM_SEG_LEN];
              }
          
              return list;
          }
          
          void deleteMemoryList(char** list){
              for(int index=0; index<MEM_SEGS; index++){
                  char** tmp = &(list[index]);
                  delete *tmp;
              }
              delete list;
          }
          
          void deleteMemoryListNull(char** list){
              for(int index=0; index<MEM_SEGS; index++){
                  char** tmp = &(list[index]);
                  delete *tmp;
                  *tmp = nullptr;
          //        char* tmp = (list[index]);
          //        delete tmp;
          //        tmp = nullptr;
              }
              delete list;
              list = nullptr;
          }
          
          int main(int argc, char *argv[])
          {
              QCoreApplication a(argc, argv);
          
              double time1, time2;
          
              qInfo() << QString(R"(Starting memory test 1 of not setting pointer to nullptr: %1 cycles)").arg(MEM_SEGS);
          
              QElapsedTimer timer1;
          
              char** list1 = createMemoryList();
              timer1.start();
              deleteMemoryList(list1);
              time1 = timer1.elapsed();
              qInfo() << time1/1000.0 << QString().number((time1/1000.0)/double(MEM_SEGS),10,12);
          
              qInfo() << QString(R"(Starting memory test 2 of setting pointer to nullptr: %1 cycles)").arg(MEM_SEGS);
          
              QElapsedTimer timer2;
          
              char** list2 = createMemoryList();
              timer2.start();
              deleteMemoryListNull(list2);
              time2 = timer2.elapsed();
              qInfo() << time2/1000.0 << QString().number((time2/1000.0)/double(MEM_SEGS),10,12);
          
              qInfo() << "Difference:" << QString().number((time2/1000.0)/double(MEM_SEGS)-(time1/1000.0)/double(MEM_SEGS),10,12);
          
              return a.exec();
          }
          

          So, 5 nanoseconds difference for a delete operation of dereffed pointer assignment:

          "Starting memory test 1 of not setting pointer to nullptr: 100000000 cycles"
          0.848 "0.000000008480"
          "Starting memory test 2 of setting pointer to nullptr: 100000000 cycles"
          1.321 "0.000000013210"
          Difference: "0.000000004730"
          

          Edit:
          Math was wrong.

          C++ is a perfectly valid school of magic.

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          • fcarneyF fcarney

            @JonB said in Recurring C++ and Qt anti-patterns:

            tmp = nullptr;

            I changed it to not update a local variable. char* tmp is local, so setting it to null is just setting a local variable to null. So it was setting the wrong area of memory to null. That is why I took the address of where that pointer is stored.

            The assembler for tmp = nullptr in previous incarnation:

            movq   $0x0,-0x8(%rbp)
            

            The assembler for *tmp = nullptr in latest incarnation:

            mov    -0x8(%rbp),%rax
            movq   $0x0,(%rax)
            

            But you are right, the tmp = nullptr is more representative.
            The timing is not much different.

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            JonB
            wrote on last edited by JonB
            #23

            @fcarney
            You're talking about a single movq. Just how big is MEM_SEGS? Your timings, are they in milliseconds?? And I assume list is filled with zeroes? I'm talking about your earlier barebones example, where your timings were
            877
            1369

            Oh now I see more code in other examples. If your list contained 10 million news and you are deleteing them, common-sense should tell you the cost of whether or not you set one local variable to nullptr with just a mov instruction must be negligible, compared to whatever is involved in freeing memory, no?

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            • fcarneyF Offline
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              fcarney
              wrote on last edited by
              #24

              @JonB said in Recurring C++ and Qt anti-patterns:

              one local variable to nullptr with just a mov instruction must be negligible, compared to whatever is involved in freeing memory, no?

              Correct. My math was wrong. It is 5 nanoseconds. At least for dereffed pointer, but timing was nearly the same for local variable as well.

              C++ is a perfectly valid school of magic.

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              • fcarneyF fcarney

                @JonB said in Recurring C++ and Qt anti-patterns:

                one local variable to nullptr with just a mov instruction must be negligible, compared to whatever is involved in freeing memory, no?

                Correct. My math was wrong. It is 5 nanoseconds. At least for dereffed pointer, but timing was nearly the same for local variable as well.

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                JonB
                wrote on last edited by
                #25

                @fcarney
                Ahhh, that would make much more sense! :)
                A nanosecond doesn't sound too long, I don't think I could get much done in it could I?

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                • aha_1980A Offline
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                  aha_1980
                  Lifetime Qt Champion
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #26

                  One more example for the hall of shame:

                  QByteArray ba = "Hello World";
                  QString s = QString::fromStdString(ba.toStdString());
                  

                  We have two problems here:

                  1. The conversion to and from std::string is unneeded
                  2. This only works for ASCII characters. QString::fromUtf8(ba); would most often be the correct choice, sometimes also QString::fromLocal8Bit(ba);

                  Qt has to stay free or it will die.

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                  • aha_1980A Offline
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                    aha_1980
                    Lifetime Qt Champion
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #27

                    One more note to string processing:

                    QString empty = ""; is not the correct way to create an empty string, that is QString empty;

                    To clear an non-empty QString data, use data.clear() instead data = "";.

                    The same applies to QByteArrays.

                    Qt has to stay free or it will die.

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                    • fcarneyF Offline
                      fcarneyF Offline
                      fcarney
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #28

                      @aha_1980 said in Recurring C++ and Qt anti-patterns:

                      QString empty = ""; is not the correct way to create an empty string, that is QString empty;
                      To clear an non-empty QString data, use data.clear() instead data = "";

                      Interesting... I did a couple of tests to see if it behaves the same way for comparisons. The only difference I can find between clear and setting to "" is the isNull test:

                          qInfo() << "string test";
                          QString empty;
                          QString str = "";
                          qInfo() << bool(empty == str);
                          qInfo() << str.isNull();
                          str.clear();
                          qInfo() << bool(empty == str);
                          qInfo() << str.isNull();
                      

                      output:

                      string test
                      true
                      false
                      true
                      true
                      

                      If the string was set to "" is returns false for isNull. I have never had the occasion to use this test and am not sure what it is for. I guess it would be important if you want to determine if an empty string was assigned to the variable versus nothing being assigned.

                      C++ is a perfectly valid school of magic.

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                      • fcarneyF fcarney

                        @aha_1980 said in Recurring C++ and Qt anti-patterns:

                        QString empty = ""; is not the correct way to create an empty string, that is QString empty;
                        To clear an non-empty QString data, use data.clear() instead data = "";

                        Interesting... I did a couple of tests to see if it behaves the same way for comparisons. The only difference I can find between clear and setting to "" is the isNull test:

                            qInfo() << "string test";
                            QString empty;
                            QString str = "";
                            qInfo() << bool(empty == str);
                            qInfo() << str.isNull();
                            str.clear();
                            qInfo() << bool(empty == str);
                            qInfo() << str.isNull();
                        

                        output:

                        string test
                        true
                        false
                        true
                        true
                        

                        If the string was set to "" is returns false for isNull. I have never had the occasion to use this test and am not sure what it is for. I guess it would be important if you want to determine if an empty string was assigned to the variable versus nothing being assigned.

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                        aha_1980
                        Lifetime Qt Champion
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #29

                        @fcarney I just think the isNull() method should be deprecated. Even the documentation states:

                        Qt makes a distinction between null strings and empty strings for historical reasons. For most applications, what matters is whether or not a string contains any data, and this can be determined using the isEmpty() function.

                        Qt has to stay free or it will die.

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                        • fcarneyF fcarney

                          Okay, I am just confusing myself. If you delete a pointer you must immediately set it to null. Otherwise you risk double delete, which is bad. But its okay to delete something set to null. Got it.

                          Edit:
                          Why doesn't delete set the pointer to null then? That seems like it may be an antipattern in and of itself.

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                          Christian Ehrlicher
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                          wrote on last edited by Christian Ehrlicher
                          #30

                          @fcarney said in Recurring C++ and Qt anti-patterns:

                          Why doesn't delete set the pointer to null then?

                          Because the operator delete is defined to take a pointer, not a reference to a pointer.
                          https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/memory/new/operator_delete

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                            fcarney
                            wrote on last edited by fcarney
                            #31

                            Welcome to another edition of Is this an Anti-Pattern?

                            Harmless looking pattern 1:

                            std::vector<int64_t> list = {9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9};
                            int64_t sum = std::accumulate(list.begin(), list.end(), 0);
                            

                            Harmless looking pattern 2:

                            std::vector<int64_t> list = {9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9};
                            int64_t prod = std::accumulate(list.begin(), list.end(), 1, std::multiplies<int64_t>());
                            

                            Lack of understanding pattern 3:

                            std::set<int> list = {9,8,7,6};
                            int last = *(list.end()--);
                            

                            Lack of understanding pattern 4:

                            std:vector<int> list = {9,8,7,6};
                            int last = *(list.end()--);
                            

                            I still don't get why this cannot be done for sets and vectors...
                            Okay, was using post decrement instead of a prefix decrement. DOH!

                            int last = *(--list.end());
                            

                            Logic fudgery pattern 5 (this is more an optical illusion, it was to me anyway):

                            bool is_leap_year(int year){
                                return (year % 4 == 0) && (year % 100 == 0) ? (year % 400 == 0) : true;
                            }
                            

                            C++ is a perfectly valid school of magic.

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                              sierdzio
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                              #32

                              Small things from me:

                              • lack of const in signal declarations. A signal will never modify an object so it can always be const. Qt will const_cast it away anyway, but it enables you to emit signals from const methods and (possibly) compiler to optimize a bit more
                              • overuse of lambdas in slot connections even when a normal slot just makes more sense

                              (Z(:^

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                                Small things from me:

                                • lack of const in signal declarations. A signal will never modify an object so it can always be const. Qt will const_cast it away anyway, but it enables you to emit signals from const methods and (possibly) compiler to optimize a bit more
                                • overuse of lambdas in slot connections even when a normal slot just makes more sense
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                                #33

                                @sierdzio said in Recurring C++ and Qt anti-patterns:

                                Small things from me:

                                • lack of const in signal declarations. A signal will never modify an object so it can always be const. Qt will const_cast it away anyway, but it enables you to emit signals from const methods and (possibly) compiler to optimize a bit more
                                • overuse of lambdas in slot connections even when a normal slot just makes more sense

                                This brings me to a philosophical question: Do I want to be able to emit a signal from a const method, although the slot(s) attached to the signal may well modify data the originating const method could not itself modify?

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                                  @sierdzio said in Recurring C++ and Qt anti-patterns:

                                  Small things from me:

                                  • lack of const in signal declarations. A signal will never modify an object so it can always be const. Qt will const_cast it away anyway, but it enables you to emit signals from const methods and (possibly) compiler to optimize a bit more
                                  • overuse of lambdas in slot connections even when a normal slot just makes more sense

                                  This brings me to a philosophical question: Do I want to be able to emit a signal from a const method, although the slot(s) attached to the signal may well modify data the originating const method could not itself modify?

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                                  #34

                                  @Asperamanca said in Recurring C++ and Qt anti-patterns:

                                  This brings me to a philosophical question: Do I want to be able to emit a signal from a const method, although the slot(s) attached to the signal may well modify data the originating const method could not itself modify?

                                  Yes, it's very debatable :D I did find a few occasions where it was useful (latest example: modifying behaviour of QTreeView without patching Qt - I have emitted a signal from const overloaded method and did my modifications there), but I agree it does not feel "right".

                                  (Z(:^

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                                    fcarney
                                    wrote on last edited by fcarney
                                    #35

                                    Given the code:
                                    modules.h

                                    #ifndef MODULES_H
                                    #define MODULES_H
                                    
                                    #include <string>
                                    
                                    void reg_module(int type, std::string name, int initedValue);
                                    
                                    #endif // MODULES_H
                                    

                                    modules.cpp

                                    #include "modules.h"
                                    
                                    using namespace std;
                                    
                                    struct Modules
                                    {
                                        Modules(): m_initedValue(0){}
                                        int m_type;
                                        string m_name;
                                        int m_initedValue;
                                    } global_modules_struct[128];
                                    
                                    void reg_module(int type, std::string name, int initedValue){
                                        global_modules_struct[type].m_type = type;
                                        global_modules_struct[type].m_name = name;
                                        global_modules_struct[type].m_initedValue = initedValue;
                                    }
                                    

                                    moduletype.h

                                    #ifndef MODULETYPE_H
                                    #define MODULETYPE_H
                                    
                                    // nothing here
                                    
                                    #endif // MODULETYPE_H
                                    

                                    moduletype.cpp

                                    #include "moduletype.h"
                                    #include "modules.h"
                                    
                                    struct SomeModule{
                                        SomeModule(){
                                            reg_module(10, "some type", 5);
                                        }
                                    } SomeModuleInstance;
                                    

                                    Ignore obvious indexing bounds checking issues for the array itself. Also ignore external array indexing possibly being out of bounds.

                                    I just ran into a form of this problem in our code and it did not exhibit issues in Linux (that we know of) and did show issues in Windows. Linux used gcc and Windows used mingw. Same version of Qt 5.12.2 etc. Once identified it was really easy to see why this is a big issue.

                                    Edit:
                                    Technically global_modules_struct is not really global either. So ignore the misleading name.

                                    C++ is a perfectly valid school of magic.

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                                      Chris Kawa
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                                      #36

                                      I had to dig through this thing once, only the real code was like a hundred times longer and more convoluted.

                                      // Library.h statically linked to and included in DLL and EXE
                                      struct SomeType
                                      {
                                         int typeId();
                                      };
                                      Q_DECLARE_METATYPE(SomeType);
                                      
                                      // Library.cpp
                                      int SomeType::typeId()
                                      {
                                          return qMetaTypeId<SomeType>();
                                      }
                                      
                                      // main app
                                      SomeType& var1 = getItFromDLL();
                                      SomeType& var2 = getItFromEXE();
                                      
                                      bool same = var1.typeId() == var2.typeId(); // nope
                                      

                                      Pretty ugly thing to debug, especially since once in blue moon it actually works :/

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                                        • sierdzioS sierdzio

                                          @Asperamanca said in Recurring C++ and Qt anti-patterns:

                                          This brings me to a philosophical question: Do I want to be able to emit a signal from a const method, although the slot(s) attached to the signal may well modify data the originating const method could not itself modify?

                                          Yes, it's very debatable :D I did find a few occasions where it was useful (latest example: modifying behaviour of QTreeView without patching Qt - I have emitted a signal from const overloaded method and did my modifications there), but I agree it does not feel "right".

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                                          @sierdzio said in Recurring C++ and Qt anti-patterns:

                                          Yes, it's very debatable :D I did find a few occasions where it was useful (latest example: modifying behaviour of QTreeView without patching Qt - I have emitted a signal from const overloaded method and did my modifications there), but I agree it does not feel "right".

                                          Actually, I have zero problem with this. The way my mind works it makes perfect sense, as the signal is a message to a receiving class (any class). It's not the sender method that modifies the object state. It is the message. My mind differentiates between the two.

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