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  • O opengpu
    class Worker : public QObject
    {
        Q_OBJECT
    
    public slots:
        void doWork(const QString &parameter) {
            QString result;
            /* ... here is the expensive or blocking operation ... */
            emit resultReady(result);
        }
    
    signals:
        void resultReady(const QString &result);
    };
    
    class Controller : public QObject
    {
        Q_OBJECT
        QThread workerThread;
    public:
        Controller() {
            Worker *worker = new Worker;
            worker->moveToThread(&workerThread);
            connect(&workerThread, &QThread::finished, worker, &QObject::deleteLater);
            connect(this, &Controller::operate, worker, &Worker::doWork);
            connect(worker, &Worker::resultReady, this, &Controller::handleResults);
            workerThread.start();
        }
        ~Controller() {
            workerThread.quit();
            workerThread.wait();
        }
    public slots:
        void handleResults(const QString &);
    signals:
        void operate(const QString &);
    };
    

    thanks, and i will use this.

    ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
    is this OK?
    the 'doWork' is slow, and the emit 'operate' is very very frequently.
    so is it OK when the previous signal's 'doWork' is still not finished & the next (maybe more than one)'operate' is already emitted.

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    @opengpu said in inherite from QThread, but donnot overrider virtual void run(), is this OK?:

    so is it OK when the previous signal's 'doWork' is still not finished & the next (maybe more than one)'operate' is already emitted.

    The worker QThread implements a QEventQueue, when a new signal emitted from Controller, it will be stored in message queue. And when slot has been processed on Worker, next message will be extract from queue. And so on.

    More details can be found here: https://www.toptal.com/qt/qt-multithreading-c-plus-plus

    Messages will be processed in the order of reception in WorkerThread.

    I would to initialization of Thread and Worker like this:

    Worker *worker = new Worker; // no need to hold pointer to worker 
    QThread *workerThread = new QThread; // no need to hold pointer to worker thread
    
    connect(this, &Controller::operate, worker, Worker::doWork);
    connect(worker, &Worker::resultReady, this, &Controller::handleResults);
    
    // delete worker on controller end
    connect(this, &QObject::destroyed, worker, Worker::deleteLater, Qt::DirectConnection);
    
    // stop and delete worker thread on worker end
    connect(worker, &QObject::destroyed, workerThread, [](QObject *){
        quit();
        wait();
        deleteLater();
    }, Qt::DirectConnection);
    
    worker->moveToThread(workerThread);
    workerThread.start();
    

    It is an old maxim of mine that when you have excluded the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. (Sherlock Holmes)

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    • KroMignonK KroMignon

      @opengpu said in inherite from QThread, but donnot overrider virtual void run(), is this OK?:

      so is it OK when the previous signal's 'doWork' is still not finished & the next (maybe more than one)'operate' is already emitted.

      The worker QThread implements a QEventQueue, when a new signal emitted from Controller, it will be stored in message queue. And when slot has been processed on Worker, next message will be extract from queue. And so on.

      More details can be found here: https://www.toptal.com/qt/qt-multithreading-c-plus-plus

      Messages will be processed in the order of reception in WorkerThread.

      I would to initialization of Thread and Worker like this:

      Worker *worker = new Worker; // no need to hold pointer to worker 
      QThread *workerThread = new QThread; // no need to hold pointer to worker thread
      
      connect(this, &Controller::operate, worker, Worker::doWork);
      connect(worker, &Worker::resultReady, this, &Controller::handleResults);
      
      // delete worker on controller end
      connect(this, &QObject::destroyed, worker, Worker::deleteLater, Qt::DirectConnection);
      
      // stop and delete worker thread on worker end
      connect(worker, &QObject::destroyed, workerThread, [](QObject *){
          quit();
          wait();
          deleteLater();
      }, Qt::DirectConnection);
      
      worker->moveToThread(workerThread);
      workerThread.start();
      
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      @KroMignon said in inherite from QThread, but donnot overrider virtual void run(), is this OK?:

      connect(this, &QObject::destroyed, worker, Worker::deleteLater, Qt::DirectConnection);
      

      This is a race condition - deleteLater is a slot and it's not thread-safe. Don't force the connection type.

      Read and abide by the Qt Code of Conduct

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        wrote on last edited by opengpu
        #13

        i want to set a min time interval inside which the emit operate or the slot doWork should be INVALID and do nothing.
        before when overrider the virtual run(), that's easy to do.

        how about this situation while using this worker-method?

        eg. if doWork is implemented and until 1 min passed, the signal or slot should not emit or implemented in this 1 min. and the signal/slot doesnot be renmembered, just ignore them.

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        • O opengpu

          i want to set a min time interval inside which the emit operate or the slot doWork should be INVALID and do nothing.
          before when overrider the virtual run(), that's easy to do.

          how about this situation while using this worker-method?

          eg. if doWork is implemented and until 1 min passed, the signal or slot should not emit or implemented in this 1 min. and the signal/slot doesnot be renmembered, just ignore them.

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          kshegunov
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          wrote on last edited by
          #14

          Emit a deadline (QDeadlineTimer) along with the input data. In the slot check if the deadline has expired, and if so just return immediately.

          Read and abide by the Qt Code of Conduct

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            #15
            QElapsedTimer m_ElapsedTimer;
            
            if ( !m_ElapsedTimer.isValid() ||  m_ElapsedTimer.hasExpired(timeout))
            {
                emit signalSendEmail();
                m_ElapsedTimer.restart();
            }
            

            i want to write like this, this will not restrict the 1st time emit, and since the 1st emit, the next emit is only allowed outof timeout milliseconds.
            However, i want the exe runs very very long time. the qinit64 seems still not that long enough for the longest interval in theory(qint64 is only about 214783 seconds). What will happen if the real time interval is longer than this?
            And what is the best method to get the longest time interval supportted in code?

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            • O opengpu
              QElapsedTimer m_ElapsedTimer;
              
              if ( !m_ElapsedTimer.isValid() ||  m_ElapsedTimer.hasExpired(timeout))
              {
                  emit signalSendEmail();
                  m_ElapsedTimer.restart();
              }
              

              i want to write like this, this will not restrict the 1st time emit, and since the 1st emit, the next emit is only allowed outof timeout milliseconds.
              However, i want the exe runs very very long time. the qinit64 seems still not that long enough for the longest interval in theory(qint64 is only about 214783 seconds). What will happen if the real time interval is longer than this?
              And what is the best method to get the longest time interval supportted in code?

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              jsulm
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              wrote on last edited by jsulm
              #16

              @opengpu See my answer in your other thread (https://forum.qt.io/topic/104026/about-the-longest-elapsed-time-in-qt). I really have no idea why you think it is 214783 seconds only when using qint64...

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                @opengpu See my answer in your other thread (https://forum.qt.io/topic/104026/about-the-longest-elapsed-time-in-qt). I really have no idea why you think it is 214783 seconds only when using qint64...

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                wrote on last edited by
                #17

                @jsulm thank you. i got it from INT_MAX, which is int32

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                  @jsulm thank you. i got it from INT_MAX, which is int32

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                  jsulm
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                  wrote on last edited by jsulm
                  #18

                  @opengpu With int32 you have more than 2 million seconds, not 214783

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                    #19

                    @opengpu said in inherite from QThread, but donnot overrider virtual void run(), is this OK?:

                    workerThread

                    workerThread donot need sleep?

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                    • O opengpu

                      @opengpu said in inherite from QThread, but donnot overrider virtual void run(), is this OK?:

                      workerThread

                      workerThread donot need sleep?

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                      jsulm
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                      #20

                      @opengpu said in inherite from QThread, but donnot overrider virtual void run(), is this OK?:

                      workerThread donot need sleep?

                      No, they are not humans :-)
                      Why are you asking? A thread can sleep or be busy.

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                      • jsulmJ jsulm

                        @opengpu said in inherite from QThread, but donnot overrider virtual void run(), is this OK?:

                        workerThread donot need sleep?

                        No, they are not humans :-)
                        Why are you asking? A thread can sleep or be busy.

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                        #21

                        @jsulm ok, so it will automatically sleep when no signal or event, right?
                        because i used to overider the virtual run()
                        thanks

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                        • kshegunovK kshegunov

                          @KroMignon said in inherite from QThread, but donnot overrider virtual void run(), is this OK?:

                          connect(this, &QObject::destroyed, worker, Worker::deleteLater, Qt::DirectConnection);
                          

                          This is a race condition - deleteLater is a slot and it's not thread-safe. Don't force the connection type.

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                          wrote on last edited by KroMignon
                          #22

                          @kshegunov said in inherite from QThread, but donnot overrider virtual void run(), is this OK?:

                          This is a race condition - deleteLater is a slot and it's not thread-safe. Don't force the connection type.

                          Where did you found this information.... I mean not thread safe?
                          Because on Qt Mailing list, Thiago Macieira (which is deep involved in Qt devlopement) has written:

                          It's thread-safe with almost any operation, except one: the actual object's
                          deletion, of course.

                          But we haven't documented it as such. It just happens to be due to the
                          implementation.

                          ==> cf. https://lists.qt-project.org/pipermail/interest/2015-October/019197.html

                          It is an old maxim of mine that when you have excluded the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. (Sherlock Holmes)

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                            @jsulm ok, so it will automatically sleep when no signal or event, right?
                            because i used to overider the virtual run()
                            thanks

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                            jsulm
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                            #23

                            @opengpu If you call exec() in your run() method then your thread will have an event loop and sleep if there is nothing to do. Else it will finish as soon as run() finishes (https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qthread.html#run).

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                            • jsulmJ jsulm

                              @opengpu If you call exec() in your run() method then your thread will have an event loop and sleep if there is nothing to do. Else it will finish as soon as run() finishes (https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qthread.html#run).

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                              #24

                              @jsulm i used to not call exec, and use my own loop, so it need sleep, lol

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                              • KroMignonK KroMignon

                                @kshegunov said in inherite from QThread, but donnot overrider virtual void run(), is this OK?:

                                This is a race condition - deleteLater is a slot and it's not thread-safe. Don't force the connection type.

                                Where did you found this information.... I mean not thread safe?
                                Because on Qt Mailing list, Thiago Macieira (which is deep involved in Qt devlopement) has written:

                                It's thread-safe with almost any operation, except one: the actual object's
                                deletion, of course.

                                But we haven't documented it as such. It just happens to be due to the
                                implementation.

                                ==> cf. https://lists.qt-project.org/pipermail/interest/2015-October/019197.html

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                                @KroMignon said in inherite from QThread, but donnot overrider virtual void run(), is this OK?:

                                Where did you found this information.... I mean not thread safe?

                                Documentation. There's no promise Qt made about it being thread safe, and as Thiago noted this is an implementation detail you're relying on. It may change in Qt6 (it may even change in Qt5) and then you're going to wonder why a nasty bug suddenly appeared in your codebase.

                                Read and abide by the Qt Code of Conduct

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                                • O opengpu
                                  QElapsedTimer m_ElapsedTimer;
                                  
                                  if ( !m_ElapsedTimer.isValid() ||  m_ElapsedTimer.hasExpired(timeout))
                                  {
                                      emit signalSendEmail();
                                      m_ElapsedTimer.restart();
                                  }
                                  

                                  i want to write like this, this will not restrict the 1st time emit, and since the 1st emit, the next emit is only allowed outof timeout milliseconds.
                                  However, i want the exe runs very very long time. the qinit64 seems still not that long enough for the longest interval in theory(qint64 is only about 214783 seconds). What will happen if the real time interval is longer than this?
                                  And what is the best method to get the longest time interval supportted in code?

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                                  @opengpu said in inherite from QThread, but donnot overrider virtual void run(), is this OK?:

                                  QElapsedTimer m_ElapsedTimer;
                                  
                                  if ( !m_ElapsedTimer.isValid() ||  m_ElapsedTimer.hasExpired(timeout))
                                  {
                                      emit signalSendEmail();
                                      m_ElapsedTimer.restart();
                                  }
                                  

                                  i want to write like this, this will not restrict the 1st time emit, and since the 1st emit, the next emit is only allowed outof timeout milliseconds.
                                  However, i want the exe runs very very long time. the qinit64 seems still not that long enough for the longest interval in theory(qint64 is only about 214783 seconds). What will happen if the real time interval is longer than this?
                                  And what is the best method to get the longest time interval supportted in code?

                                  // first emit
                                  emit signalSendEmail(QDeadlineTimer(QDeadlineTimer::Forever));
                                  
                                  // More emits
                                  // ...
                                  emit signalSendEmail(QDeadlineTimer::current() + 1000 * 3600); // 3600s = 1 hour
                                  

                                  In the slot it's as easy to check as:

                                  void Class::slotThatSendsEmails(const QDeadlineTimer & deadline)
                                  {
                                      if (deadline.hasExpired())
                                          return;
                                  
                                      // Code that matters
                                  }
                                  

                                  Read and abide by the Qt Code of Conduct

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                                  • kshegunovK kshegunov

                                    @KroMignon said in inherite from QThread, but donnot overrider virtual void run(), is this OK?:

                                    Where did you found this information.... I mean not thread safe?

                                    Documentation. There's no promise Qt made about it being thread safe, and as Thiago noted this is an implementation detail you're relying on. It may change in Qt6 (it may even change in Qt5) and then you're going to wonder why a nasty bug suddenly appeared in your codebase.

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                                    @kshegunov said in inherite from QThread, but donnot overrider virtual void run(), is this OK?:

                                    Documentation

                                    Sorry, I don't want to be boring, I are certainly right...
                                    But it would be nice if you can give me a pointer of your affirmation...
                                    I am following Qt Forum to learn. You say I will have trouble doing this, but not really any information else...

                                    It is an old maxim of mine that when you have excluded the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. (Sherlock Holmes)

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                                    • KroMignonK KroMignon

                                      @kshegunov said in inherite from QThread, but donnot overrider virtual void run(), is this OK?:

                                      Documentation

                                      Sorry, I don't want to be boring, I are certainly right...
                                      But it would be nice if you can give me a pointer of your affirmation...
                                      I am following Qt Forum to learn. You say I will have trouble doing this, but not really any information else...

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                                      jsulm
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                                      #28

                                      @KroMignon In documentation it is usually stated that a method is thread-safe (if it is), see for example bool QObject::disconnect
                                      If there is no mention of thread-safety then you should assume it is not.

                                      https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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                                      • kshegunovK kshegunov

                                        @opengpu said in inherite from QThread, but donnot overrider virtual void run(), is this OK?:

                                        QElapsedTimer m_ElapsedTimer;
                                        
                                        if ( !m_ElapsedTimer.isValid() ||  m_ElapsedTimer.hasExpired(timeout))
                                        {
                                            emit signalSendEmail();
                                            m_ElapsedTimer.restart();
                                        }
                                        

                                        i want to write like this, this will not restrict the 1st time emit, and since the 1st emit, the next emit is only allowed outof timeout milliseconds.
                                        However, i want the exe runs very very long time. the qinit64 seems still not that long enough for the longest interval in theory(qint64 is only about 214783 seconds). What will happen if the real time interval is longer than this?
                                        And what is the best method to get the longest time interval supportted in code?

                                        // first emit
                                        emit signalSendEmail(QDeadlineTimer(QDeadlineTimer::Forever));
                                        
                                        // More emits
                                        // ...
                                        emit signalSendEmail(QDeadlineTimer::current() + 1000 * 3600); // 3600s = 1 hour
                                        

                                        In the slot it's as easy to check as:

                                        void Class::slotThatSendsEmails(const QDeadlineTimer & deadline)
                                        {
                                            if (deadline.hasExpired())
                                                return;
                                        
                                            // Code that matters
                                        }
                                        
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                                        @kshegunov said in inherite from QThread, but donnot overrider virtual void run(), is this OK?:

                                        QDeadlineTimer

                                        thank you, but why did you persist on using QDeadlineTimer?
                                        donot emit the signal isn't better?
                                        eg. watch on the stock price, as the price is changing very frequently, so i set this min-interval to forbid the alert too frequently(at most 1 time 1 interval-time).
                                        that's my method, and i donnot is QDeadlineTimer better? or my code above has some bug...

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                                              ~Controller() {
                                                  workerThread.quit();
                                                  workerThread.wait(1000);
                                                  workerThread.terminate();
                                              }
                                          

                                          can i change the code in the doc like this?
                                          because when i exit my exe, i found sometime it will block and wait such a long time. and that thread has no data should be saved, so i can stop that thread at any time.

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