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    dvlpr.bernard
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    I will consider looking at QML. QWidget was my first choice for now.

    My main programming language is C++. I have not done any javascript before. And I probably don't wanna go with browser-based solution because the required language for our project is c++.

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      I will consider looking at QML. QWidget was my first choice for now.

      My main programming language is C++. I have not done any javascript before. And I probably don't wanna go with browser-based solution because the required language for our project is c++.

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      mrjj
      Lifetime Qt Champion
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      @dvlpr.bernard
      Ok, c++ it is.
      The Stacked widget should work fine.
      However, regarding the sqllite database. Im not sure its worth digging into
      SQL for mere 75 questions.
      You could just as easy store it in a text file or for a bit more structure use JSON which
      Qt has direct support for.

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      • mrjjM mrjj

        @dvlpr.bernard
        Ok, c++ it is.
        The Stacked widget should work fine.
        However, regarding the sqllite database. Im not sure its worth digging into
        SQL for mere 75 questions.
        You could just as easy store it in a text file or for a bit more structure use JSON which
        Qt has direct support for.

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        dvlpr.bernard
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        #12

        @mrjj
        Sorry but, can you Elaborate? I don't need SQLite because JSON could do the work for me?
        Thank you :)

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        • mrjjM mrjj

          @dvlpr.bernard
          Ok, c++ it is.
          The Stacked widget should work fine.
          However, regarding the sqllite database. Im not sure its worth digging into
          SQL for mere 75 questions.
          You could just as easy store it in a text file or for a bit more structure use JSON which
          Qt has direct support for.

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          dvlpr.bernard
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          #13

          @mrjj
          Hi. I will try to learn QML. What do you think is the best fit for my app the QT Quick Application - Stack or QT Quick Application - Swipe?
          And what are the best resources to learn it out there?

          Thank you again in advance :)

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            dvlpr.bernard
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            #14

            QML seems pretty gorgeous with the user interface. But how am I'm going to work with the back-end kinda stuff??

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            • mrjjM mrjj

              @dvlpr.bernard
              Ok, c++ it is.
              The Stacked widget should work fine.
              However, regarding the sqllite database. Im not sure its worth digging into
              SQL for mere 75 questions.
              You could just as easy store it in a text file or for a bit more structure use JSON which
              Qt has direct support for.

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              dvlpr.bernard
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              #15

              @mrjj
              If Javascript is the language for QML then that would be bad because the required languange for the app is c++.

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                @mrjj
                If Javascript is the language for QML then that would be bad because the required languange for the app is c++.

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                KillerSmath
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                @dvlpr.bernard
                You could write the backend on c++ and expose an object from C++ to QML.
                https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtqml-cppintegration-contextproperties.html
                https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtqml-cppintegration-exposecppattributes.html.

                @Computer Science Student - Brazil
                Web Developer and Researcher
                “Sometimes it’s the people no one imagines anything of who do the things that no one can imagine.” - Alan Turing

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                • mrjjM mrjj

                  @dvlpr.bernard
                  Ok, c++ it is.
                  The Stacked widget should work fine.
                  However, regarding the sqllite database. Im not sure its worth digging into
                  SQL for mere 75 questions.
                  You could just as easy store it in a text file or for a bit more structure use JSON which
                  Qt has direct support for.

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                  dvlpr.bernard
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #17

                  @mrjj Good day sir!

                  I was just wondering how am I going to present the data? Should I store all the interface in one Stack Widget or do I need another window or another Stack Widget? :)

                  And also I consider looking at SQLite. Where would I store the questions kinda thing or the output to compare to the user input? Thank you again in advance :)
                  0_1555859866247_0c9e3a4f-a3af-45bd-8af3-b4e50e870d9c-image.png

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                    dvlpr.bernard
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                    #18

                    Or it should look like these?
                    What are the things I need to consider :)

                    0_1555861384574_636d3370-b62b-4ed1-9b49-cdc8e65c107e-image.png

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                      mrjj
                      Lifetime Qt Champion
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                      #19

                      Hi
                      Last table looks ok. I assume then all question is a topic and the answer is some
                      text. No mutiple choice or anything like that ?

                      Since we will have few questions (75) its ok to include the difficult_level
                      as text. If we were to have thousands of questions, it would be better to have a table for the texts ( Beginner, Average etc) and reference it from Question table.
                      However, we just directly included it here for simplicity.

                      Next step could be to try use table in Qt
                      https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtsql-index.html
                      https://katecpp.wordpress.com/2015/08/28/sqlite-with-qt/

                      Things to consider:
                      Define the operations you need, like
                      select questions from a diff_level
                      keeping track of already used questions (if needed ?)

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                      • D dvlpr.bernard

                        @mrjj Good day sir!

                        I was just wondering how am I going to present the data? Should I store all the interface in one Stack Widget or do I need another window or another Stack Widget? :)

                        And also I consider looking at SQLite. Where would I store the questions kinda thing or the output to compare to the user input? Thank you again in advance :)
                        0_1555859866247_0c9e3a4f-a3af-45bd-8af3-b4e50e870d9c-image.png

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                        KillerSmath
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                        #20

                        I was just wondering how am I going to present the data? Should I store all the interface in one Stack Widget or do I need another window or another Stack Widget? :)

                        I suppose you pretent to use QML. So you can store the data in a model and display components on window depending of your data.

                        Swipe View
                        Stack View

                        Below is a idea of how you could to implement it with Swipe View (No Interative Mode)

                        // Qt 5.11
                        import QtQuick 2.11
                        import QtQuick.Window 2.11
                        import QtQuick.Controls 2.2
                        import QtQuick.Layouts 1.11
                        
                        Window {
                            visible: true
                            width: 640
                            height: 480
                            title: qsTr("Hello World")
                        
                            ListModel{
                                id: databaseModel
                                ListElement{
                                    topic: "While Loop"
                                    dificulty: 3
                                    question_num: 3
                                    question_text: "While Loop 3,3"
                                }
                        
                                ListElement{
                                    topic: "While Loop"
                                    dificulty: 3
                                    question_num: 4
                                    question_text: "While Loop 3,4"
                                }
                            }
                        
                            SwipeView {
                                id: view
                                anchors.fill: parent
                                anchors.bottomMargin: 20
                                interactive: false
                                currentIndex: pageIndicator.currentIndex
                                Repeater {
                                    model: databaseModel
                                    Loader {
                                        active: SwipeView.isCurrentItem || SwipeView.isNextItem || SwipeView.isPreviousItem
                                        sourceComponent: Page{
                                            Rectangle{
                                                width: view.width / 2
                                                height: view.height / 2
                                                color: "white"
                                                anchors.centerIn: parent
                        
                                                Text{
                                                    anchors.centerIn: parent
                                                    text: "Question: " + model.question_text
                                                }
                                            }
                                        }
                                    }
                                }
                            }
                        
                            PageIndicator {
                                id: pageIndicator
                                count: databaseModel.count
                                interactive: true
                                currentIndex: 0
                                anchors.bottom: parent.bottom
                                anchors.horizontalCenter: parent.horizontalCenter
                        
                            }
                        
                        }
                        

                        Note: the listModel (Data) and Game Logic can be implemented from c++.

                        And also I consider looking at SQLite. Where would I store the questions kinda thing or the output to compare to the user input? Thank you again in advance :)

                        Firstly, it may be implement of several ways...
                        You can insert a Json text with correct_answer index and answers.
                        Or create an array of text and correct_answer field (i'm not sure how it could be implemented).

                        Json Example:

                        {
                           "correct_answer": 0,
                           "answers": [
                              "Answer 1",
                              "Answer 2",
                              "Answer 3"
                           ]
                        }
                        

                        Also, the difficulty_level don't need to be a string field. You can storage an intenger number 1-3 and interpret it in your app. 1 -> Beginner, 2 -> Intermediate.

                        I recommend you to read these materials to understand the Relational Database Concepts:
                        Telvents - RDBMS Concepts
                        TutorialsPoint - RDBMS Concepts

                        @Computer Science Student - Brazil
                        Web Developer and Researcher
                        “Sometimes it’s the people no one imagines anything of who do the things that no one can imagine.” - Alan Turing

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                        • mrjjM mrjj

                          Hi
                          Last table looks ok. I assume then all question is a topic and the answer is some
                          text. No mutiple choice or anything like that ?

                          Since we will have few questions (75) its ok to include the difficult_level
                          as text. If we were to have thousands of questions, it would be better to have a table for the texts ( Beginner, Average etc) and reference it from Question table.
                          However, we just directly included it here for simplicity.

                          Next step could be to try use table in Qt
                          https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtsql-index.html
                          https://katecpp.wordpress.com/2015/08/28/sqlite-with-qt/

                          Things to consider:
                          Define the operations you need, like
                          select questions from a diff_level
                          keeping track of already used questions (if needed ?)

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                          dvlpr.bernard
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                          #21

                          @mrjj
                          Good day!
                          Yes, there is no multiple choice included. The user is required to type the output of the set of code that will be displayed.

                          As of now, this is how I visualize the logic or the structure of the app (Please let me know if there are some weaknesses or if this will not gonna work or if there is a better way of doing it):

                          1. The user will need to choose and click the button(topic name) which has the code that will declare the variable or an object(I don't know what should I use) and will store a data in it.
                            Example: When the user click the If Statement then int Topic = 1 or string Topic = "IF";

                          2. When the user click the Beginner button then int Dif_Lvl = 1 or string Dif_Lvl= "Beginner";

                          3. When the user input the number and click Next button then int Number_Of_Questions = user_input;
                            Print_Question(Topic, Dif_Lvl, Number_Of_Questions);
                            The Print_Question function contains the query and a loop to display the next pages depending on the user topic/dif_lvl.

                          Do I need objects and classes (not that familiar with that) or mostly I would use functions?

                          0_1555948631684_414b12ee-58f3-411b-b62a-67e630a2173d-image.png

                          Thanks :)

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                          • KillerSmathK KillerSmath

                            I was just wondering how am I going to present the data? Should I store all the interface in one Stack Widget or do I need another window or another Stack Widget? :)

                            I suppose you pretent to use QML. So you can store the data in a model and display components on window depending of your data.

                            Swipe View
                            Stack View

                            Below is a idea of how you could to implement it with Swipe View (No Interative Mode)

                            // Qt 5.11
                            import QtQuick 2.11
                            import QtQuick.Window 2.11
                            import QtQuick.Controls 2.2
                            import QtQuick.Layouts 1.11
                            
                            Window {
                                visible: true
                                width: 640
                                height: 480
                                title: qsTr("Hello World")
                            
                                ListModel{
                                    id: databaseModel
                                    ListElement{
                                        topic: "While Loop"
                                        dificulty: 3
                                        question_num: 3
                                        question_text: "While Loop 3,3"
                                    }
                            
                                    ListElement{
                                        topic: "While Loop"
                                        dificulty: 3
                                        question_num: 4
                                        question_text: "While Loop 3,4"
                                    }
                                }
                            
                                SwipeView {
                                    id: view
                                    anchors.fill: parent
                                    anchors.bottomMargin: 20
                                    interactive: false
                                    currentIndex: pageIndicator.currentIndex
                                    Repeater {
                                        model: databaseModel
                                        Loader {
                                            active: SwipeView.isCurrentItem || SwipeView.isNextItem || SwipeView.isPreviousItem
                                            sourceComponent: Page{
                                                Rectangle{
                                                    width: view.width / 2
                                                    height: view.height / 2
                                                    color: "white"
                                                    anchors.centerIn: parent
                            
                                                    Text{
                                                        anchors.centerIn: parent
                                                        text: "Question: " + model.question_text
                                                    }
                                                }
                                            }
                                        }
                                    }
                                }
                            
                                PageIndicator {
                                    id: pageIndicator
                                    count: databaseModel.count
                                    interactive: true
                                    currentIndex: 0
                                    anchors.bottom: parent.bottom
                                    anchors.horizontalCenter: parent.horizontalCenter
                            
                                }
                            
                            }
                            

                            Note: the listModel (Data) and Game Logic can be implemented from c++.

                            And also I consider looking at SQLite. Where would I store the questions kinda thing or the output to compare to the user input? Thank you again in advance :)

                            Firstly, it may be implement of several ways...
                            You can insert a Json text with correct_answer index and answers.
                            Or create an array of text and correct_answer field (i'm not sure how it could be implemented).

                            Json Example:

                            {
                               "correct_answer": 0,
                               "answers": [
                                  "Answer 1",
                                  "Answer 2",
                                  "Answer 3"
                               ]
                            }
                            

                            Also, the difficulty_level don't need to be a string field. You can storage an intenger number 1-3 and interpret it in your app. 1 -> Beginner, 2 -> Intermediate.

                            I recommend you to read these materials to understand the Relational Database Concepts:
                            Telvents - RDBMS Concepts
                            TutorialsPoint - RDBMS Concepts

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                            dvlpr.bernard
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #22

                            @KillerSmath
                            Good day! Thank you for your response.
                            As of now, I have not learned QML yet. I only know the basic of QT Widget Application and I also tried the Stack Widget in it. QML seems pretty daunting to me for now but I will consider peeking and see if I could work on it.

                            Sadly I need to finish this app within 3 weeks from now or else I would not meet the deadline. I think I wouldn't be able to dig deep into things because that would eat up my time.

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                              mrjj
                              Lifetime Qt Champion
                              wrote on last edited by
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                              @dvlpr.bernard said in Advice about the application I will be making? (I'm a beginner):

                              Do I need objects and classes (not that familiar with that) or mostly I would use functions?

                              You will be mostly used classes since all Widgets are classes.
                              the Print_Question should be a member function to the MainWindow so
                              it can access the widgets. You can use QLabel for the topic (call setText on it)
                              and QPlainTextEdit for the user / answer input.
                              The design looks fine. You can realize it with a stacked widget.

                              for both the Topic and Level selection, you have 2 options.
                              1: as soon as the user click button, its selected and page is changed.
                              2: You set Checkable on the buttons, so they are like a checkbox ( can be selected) and
                              first when user press next, the page is changed.

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                              • mrjjM mrjj

                                @dvlpr.bernard said in Advice about the application I will be making? (I'm a beginner):

                                Do I need objects and classes (not that familiar with that) or mostly I would use functions?

                                You will be mostly used classes since all Widgets are classes.
                                the Print_Question should be a member function to the MainWindow so
                                it can access the widgets. You can use QLabel for the topic (call setText on it)
                                and QPlainTextEdit for the user / answer input.
                                The design looks fine. You can realize it with a stacked widget.

                                for both the Topic and Level selection, you have 2 options.
                                1: as soon as the user click button, its selected and page is changed.
                                2: You set Checkable on the buttons, so they are like a checkbox ( can be selected) and
                                first when user press next, the page is changed.

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                                #24

                                @mrjj
                                Good day!

                                Is it possible to store a long string in SQLite database or maybe an image? I need it for the questions or do I?

                                0_1556191665411_732ce764-c6ca-43bb-9503-7d7f32a626a5-image.png

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                                  @mrjj
                                  Good day!

                                  Is it possible to store a long string in SQLite database or maybe an image? I need it for the questions or do I?

                                  0_1556191665411_732ce764-c6ca-43bb-9503-7d7f32a626a5-image.png

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                                  mrjj
                                  Lifetime Qt Champion
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #25

                                  Hi
                                  Storing text in Sqllite should just work. use the TEXT type for the column.

                                  Im not sure what you would need any images for ?

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                                  • mrjjM mrjj

                                    Hi
                                    Storing text in Sqllite should just work. use the TEXT type for the column.

                                    Im not sure what you would need any images for ?

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                                    Okay, did you mean this string? I already tried it but it didn't work I think it is one liner meaning I can't put two or more line data.

                                    0_1556192247323_cb9def4a-6675-4b99-9615-d7151c9d178c-image.png

                                    I want store an image to make it look more a real code rather than just a plain text, but if it is not possible thats fine.
                                    0_1556192503849_c8f12403-d6c9-48af-bb84-37ba1b9cdfa5-image.png

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                                      Okay, did you mean this string? I already tried it but it didn't work I think it is one liner meaning I can't put two or more line data.

                                      0_1556192247323_cb9def4a-6675-4b99-9615-d7151c9d178c-image.png

                                      I want store an image to make it look more a real code rather than just a plain text, but if it is not possible thats fine.
                                      0_1556192503849_c8f12403-d6c9-48af-bb84-37ba1b9cdfa5-image.png

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                                      mrjj
                                      Lifetime Qt Champion
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #27

                                      @dvlpr.bernard
                                      where you have string, if u open drop down, there is not TEXT type ?

                                      ahh. that way.
                                      well we can fix that later with a syntax highlighter
                                      https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtwidgets-richtext-syntaxhighlighter-example.html
                                      so when we set text texts its formatted with colors. no need to store image of it.

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                                      • mrjjM mrjj

                                        @dvlpr.bernard
                                        where you have string, if u open drop down, there is not TEXT type ?

                                        ahh. that way.
                                        well we can fix that later with a syntax highlighter
                                        https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtwidgets-richtext-syntaxhighlighter-example.html
                                        so when we set text texts its formatted with colors. no need to store image of it.

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                                        @mrjj
                                        Uhhmm I see, I need to use Text rather than string.
                                        Thank you, thank you!

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                                          @mrjj
                                          Uhhmm I see, I need to use Text rather than string.
                                          Thank you, thank you!

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                                          mrjj
                                          Lifetime Qt Champion
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #29

                                          @dvlpr.bernard
                                          string is a way to optimize the db so one can set a fixed size so if all text is within that, its more efficient, however, for your case with 75 questions. just use TEXT type.

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