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    dvlpr.bernard
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    I have no idea how I'm going to handle an enormous amount of data. Each Topic has 3 difficulty level with 5 questions each. To sum it up, the total of questions are 75.

    Can I use Stack Widget in QT Widget Application for this app or is there any other way of doing this? Please let me know :)

    Thanks in advance.

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      I have no idea how I'm going to handle an enormous amount of data. Each Topic has 3 difficulty level with 5 questions each. To sum it up, the total of questions are 75.

      Can I use Stack Widget in QT Widget Application for this app or is there any other way of doing this? Please let me know :)

      Thanks in advance.

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      mrjj
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      @dvlpr.bernard
      Hi
      QStackWidget will fit pretty fine for the pages with Topic/Level/num questions.
      Notice that Widgets can be styled (much like css for web)
      and you can build the ap first using the normal look and after apply a stylesheet to get the exact look.
      https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/stylesheet-reference.html

      The wrong / Correct answer could be a QDialog subclass that pops over the Stacked.

      If you come from web/html side, are you used to databases ?
      This would fit nicely to store the categories and questions in sqllite db.
      Qt has great support for it. However, this requires you to know SQL somewhat.

      Btw: do you want to make this a phone app ?

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        @dvlpr.bernard
        Hi
        QStackWidget will fit pretty fine for the pages with Topic/Level/num questions.
        Notice that Widgets can be styled (much like css for web)
        and you can build the ap first using the normal look and after apply a stylesheet to get the exact look.
        https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/stylesheet-reference.html

        The wrong / Correct answer could be a QDialog subclass that pops over the Stacked.

        If you come from web/html side, are you used to databases ?
        This would fit nicely to store the categories and questions in sqllite db.
        Qt has great support for it. However, this requires you to know SQL somewhat.

        Btw: do you want to make this a phone app ?

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        @mrjj
        Uhmmm. Yes, I did recognize that stylesheet it's kinda like css or maybe it is a true css.
        I'll take note of that QDialog.

        No, I had not used a database before and sqlite sounds interesting to me. Is it the key to manage my data? I'll take note of that.

        Yes, it is for a phone. Thank you again for your response :)

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          @mrjj
          Uhmmm. Yes, I did recognize that stylesheet it's kinda like css or maybe it is a true css.
          I'll take note of that QDialog.

          No, I had not used a database before and sqlite sounds interesting to me. Is it the key to manage my data? I'll take note of that.

          Yes, it is for a phone. Thank you again for your response :)

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          mrjj
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          @dvlpr.bernard
          ah. well while QWidgets are also fine for phone apps, there is also QML
          https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtqml-index.html
          Which was designed for the mobile generation.
          It allows much freedom in look and fell and are fully touch enabled and optimized for mobile usage.
          It is however, very different from c++.

          I suggest you try it out and see if that would not be a better fit.
          https://qmlbook.github.io/

          some c++ might be needed to create the data backend.

          But much of the logic will be javascript.

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            @dvlpr.bernard
            ah. well while QWidgets are also fine for phone apps, there is also QML
            https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtqml-index.html
            Which was designed for the mobile generation.
            It allows much freedom in look and fell and are fully touch enabled and optimized for mobile usage.
            It is however, very different from c++.

            I suggest you try it out and see if that would not be a better fit.
            https://qmlbook.github.io/

            some c++ might be needed to create the data backend.

            But much of the logic will be javascript.

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            @mrjj
            I see. Is there a touch-enabled for QT Widget Application? Or the user wouldn't be able to feel that it is made for mobile and not for desktop?

            I actually have no time to learn many things because of the deadline. Less than a month it will be presented in our school so what do you think is the best cave to go in to?

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              @mrjj
              I see. Is there a touch-enabled for QT Widget Application? Or the user wouldn't be able to feel that it is made for mobile and not for desktop?

              I actually have no time to learn many things because of the deadline. Less than a month it will be presented in our school so what do you think is the best cave to go in to?

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              mrjj
              Lifetime Qt Champion
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              @dvlpr.bernard
              hi
              Well QWidgets does support touch to some degree. Like clicking/pressing,
              but not so much slide/swipe and the other normal mobile gestures.
              Also scrollbars and the like are default too small to use. (but its fixable)

              Well if you know javascript besides c++ then QML is pretty smooth.
              If you have not worked with javascript and c++ is more your thing, i would
              go with QWidgets.

              That said. If you know web development, have you considered a browser-based solution?

              What is your main programming language ?

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                dvlpr.bernard
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                I will consider looking at QML. QWidget was my first choice for now.

                My main programming language is C++. I have not done any javascript before. And I probably don't wanna go with browser-based solution because the required language for our project is c++.

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                  I will consider looking at QML. QWidget was my first choice for now.

                  My main programming language is C++. I have not done any javascript before. And I probably don't wanna go with browser-based solution because the required language for our project is c++.

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                  mrjj
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                  @dvlpr.bernard
                  Ok, c++ it is.
                  The Stacked widget should work fine.
                  However, regarding the sqllite database. Im not sure its worth digging into
                  SQL for mere 75 questions.
                  You could just as easy store it in a text file or for a bit more structure use JSON which
                  Qt has direct support for.

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                  • mrjjM mrjj

                    @dvlpr.bernard
                    Ok, c++ it is.
                    The Stacked widget should work fine.
                    However, regarding the sqllite database. Im not sure its worth digging into
                    SQL for mere 75 questions.
                    You could just as easy store it in a text file or for a bit more structure use JSON which
                    Qt has direct support for.

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                    dvlpr.bernard
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                    @mrjj
                    Sorry but, can you Elaborate? I don't need SQLite because JSON could do the work for me?
                    Thank you :)

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                    • mrjjM mrjj

                      @dvlpr.bernard
                      Ok, c++ it is.
                      The Stacked widget should work fine.
                      However, regarding the sqllite database. Im not sure its worth digging into
                      SQL for mere 75 questions.
                      You could just as easy store it in a text file or for a bit more structure use JSON which
                      Qt has direct support for.

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                      dvlpr.bernard
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                      @mrjj
                      Hi. I will try to learn QML. What do you think is the best fit for my app the QT Quick Application - Stack or QT Quick Application - Swipe?
                      And what are the best resources to learn it out there?

                      Thank you again in advance :)

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                        dvlpr.bernard
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                        QML seems pretty gorgeous with the user interface. But how am I'm going to work with the back-end kinda stuff??

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                        • mrjjM mrjj

                          @dvlpr.bernard
                          Ok, c++ it is.
                          The Stacked widget should work fine.
                          However, regarding the sqllite database. Im not sure its worth digging into
                          SQL for mere 75 questions.
                          You could just as easy store it in a text file or for a bit more structure use JSON which
                          Qt has direct support for.

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                          dvlpr.bernard
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                          @mrjj
                          If Javascript is the language for QML then that would be bad because the required languange for the app is c++.

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                            @mrjj
                            If Javascript is the language for QML then that would be bad because the required languange for the app is c++.

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                            KillerSmath
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                            @dvlpr.bernard
                            You could write the backend on c++ and expose an object from C++ to QML.
                            https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtqml-cppintegration-contextproperties.html
                            https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtqml-cppintegration-exposecppattributes.html.

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                            Web Developer and Researcher
                            “Sometimes it’s the people no one imagines anything of who do the things that no one can imagine.” - Alan Turing

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                            • mrjjM mrjj

                              @dvlpr.bernard
                              Ok, c++ it is.
                              The Stacked widget should work fine.
                              However, regarding the sqllite database. Im not sure its worth digging into
                              SQL for mere 75 questions.
                              You could just as easy store it in a text file or for a bit more structure use JSON which
                              Qt has direct support for.

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                              @mrjj Good day sir!

                              I was just wondering how am I going to present the data? Should I store all the interface in one Stack Widget or do I need another window or another Stack Widget? :)

                              And also I consider looking at SQLite. Where would I store the questions kinda thing or the output to compare to the user input? Thank you again in advance :)
                              0_1555859866247_0c9e3a4f-a3af-45bd-8af3-b4e50e870d9c-image.png

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                                Or it should look like these?
                                What are the things I need to consider :)

                                0_1555861384574_636d3370-b62b-4ed1-9b49-cdc8e65c107e-image.png

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                                  mrjj
                                  Lifetime Qt Champion
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                                  Hi
                                  Last table looks ok. I assume then all question is a topic and the answer is some
                                  text. No mutiple choice or anything like that ?

                                  Since we will have few questions (75) its ok to include the difficult_level
                                  as text. If we were to have thousands of questions, it would be better to have a table for the texts ( Beginner, Average etc) and reference it from Question table.
                                  However, we just directly included it here for simplicity.

                                  Next step could be to try use table in Qt
                                  https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtsql-index.html
                                  https://katecpp.wordpress.com/2015/08/28/sqlite-with-qt/

                                  Things to consider:
                                  Define the operations you need, like
                                  select questions from a diff_level
                                  keeping track of already used questions (if needed ?)

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                                    @mrjj Good day sir!

                                    I was just wondering how am I going to present the data? Should I store all the interface in one Stack Widget or do I need another window or another Stack Widget? :)

                                    And also I consider looking at SQLite. Where would I store the questions kinda thing or the output to compare to the user input? Thank you again in advance :)
                                    0_1555859866247_0c9e3a4f-a3af-45bd-8af3-b4e50e870d9c-image.png

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                                    KillerSmath
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                                    #20

                                    I was just wondering how am I going to present the data? Should I store all the interface in one Stack Widget or do I need another window or another Stack Widget? :)

                                    I suppose you pretent to use QML. So you can store the data in a model and display components on window depending of your data.

                                    Swipe View
                                    Stack View

                                    Below is a idea of how you could to implement it with Swipe View (No Interative Mode)

                                    // Qt 5.11
                                    import QtQuick 2.11
                                    import QtQuick.Window 2.11
                                    import QtQuick.Controls 2.2
                                    import QtQuick.Layouts 1.11
                                    
                                    Window {
                                        visible: true
                                        width: 640
                                        height: 480
                                        title: qsTr("Hello World")
                                    
                                        ListModel{
                                            id: databaseModel
                                            ListElement{
                                                topic: "While Loop"
                                                dificulty: 3
                                                question_num: 3
                                                question_text: "While Loop 3,3"
                                            }
                                    
                                            ListElement{
                                                topic: "While Loop"
                                                dificulty: 3
                                                question_num: 4
                                                question_text: "While Loop 3,4"
                                            }
                                        }
                                    
                                        SwipeView {
                                            id: view
                                            anchors.fill: parent
                                            anchors.bottomMargin: 20
                                            interactive: false
                                            currentIndex: pageIndicator.currentIndex
                                            Repeater {
                                                model: databaseModel
                                                Loader {
                                                    active: SwipeView.isCurrentItem || SwipeView.isNextItem || SwipeView.isPreviousItem
                                                    sourceComponent: Page{
                                                        Rectangle{
                                                            width: view.width / 2
                                                            height: view.height / 2
                                                            color: "white"
                                                            anchors.centerIn: parent
                                    
                                                            Text{
                                                                anchors.centerIn: parent
                                                                text: "Question: " + model.question_text
                                                            }
                                                        }
                                                    }
                                                }
                                            }
                                        }
                                    
                                        PageIndicator {
                                            id: pageIndicator
                                            count: databaseModel.count
                                            interactive: true
                                            currentIndex: 0
                                            anchors.bottom: parent.bottom
                                            anchors.horizontalCenter: parent.horizontalCenter
                                    
                                        }
                                    
                                    }
                                    

                                    Note: the listModel (Data) and Game Logic can be implemented from c++.

                                    And also I consider looking at SQLite. Where would I store the questions kinda thing or the output to compare to the user input? Thank you again in advance :)

                                    Firstly, it may be implement of several ways...
                                    You can insert a Json text with correct_answer index and answers.
                                    Or create an array of text and correct_answer field (i'm not sure how it could be implemented).

                                    Json Example:

                                    {
                                       "correct_answer": 0,
                                       "answers": [
                                          "Answer 1",
                                          "Answer 2",
                                          "Answer 3"
                                       ]
                                    }
                                    

                                    Also, the difficulty_level don't need to be a string field. You can storage an intenger number 1-3 and interpret it in your app. 1 -> Beginner, 2 -> Intermediate.

                                    I recommend you to read these materials to understand the Relational Database Concepts:
                                    Telvents - RDBMS Concepts
                                    TutorialsPoint - RDBMS Concepts

                                    @Computer Science Student - Brazil
                                    Web Developer and Researcher
                                    “Sometimes it’s the people no one imagines anything of who do the things that no one can imagine.” - Alan Turing

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                                    • mrjjM mrjj

                                      Hi
                                      Last table looks ok. I assume then all question is a topic and the answer is some
                                      text. No mutiple choice or anything like that ?

                                      Since we will have few questions (75) its ok to include the difficult_level
                                      as text. If we were to have thousands of questions, it would be better to have a table for the texts ( Beginner, Average etc) and reference it from Question table.
                                      However, we just directly included it here for simplicity.

                                      Next step could be to try use table in Qt
                                      https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtsql-index.html
                                      https://katecpp.wordpress.com/2015/08/28/sqlite-with-qt/

                                      Things to consider:
                                      Define the operations you need, like
                                      select questions from a diff_level
                                      keeping track of already used questions (if needed ?)

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                                      @mrjj
                                      Good day!
                                      Yes, there is no multiple choice included. The user is required to type the output of the set of code that will be displayed.

                                      As of now, this is how I visualize the logic or the structure of the app (Please let me know if there are some weaknesses or if this will not gonna work or if there is a better way of doing it):

                                      1. The user will need to choose and click the button(topic name) which has the code that will declare the variable or an object(I don't know what should I use) and will store a data in it.
                                        Example: When the user click the If Statement then int Topic = 1 or string Topic = "IF";

                                      2. When the user click the Beginner button then int Dif_Lvl = 1 or string Dif_Lvl= "Beginner";

                                      3. When the user input the number and click Next button then int Number_Of_Questions = user_input;
                                        Print_Question(Topic, Dif_Lvl, Number_Of_Questions);
                                        The Print_Question function contains the query and a loop to display the next pages depending on the user topic/dif_lvl.

                                      Do I need objects and classes (not that familiar with that) or mostly I would use functions?

                                      0_1555948631684_414b12ee-58f3-411b-b62a-67e630a2173d-image.png

                                      Thanks :)

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                                      • KillerSmathK KillerSmath

                                        I was just wondering how am I going to present the data? Should I store all the interface in one Stack Widget or do I need another window or another Stack Widget? :)

                                        I suppose you pretent to use QML. So you can store the data in a model and display components on window depending of your data.

                                        Swipe View
                                        Stack View

                                        Below is a idea of how you could to implement it with Swipe View (No Interative Mode)

                                        // Qt 5.11
                                        import QtQuick 2.11
                                        import QtQuick.Window 2.11
                                        import QtQuick.Controls 2.2
                                        import QtQuick.Layouts 1.11
                                        
                                        Window {
                                            visible: true
                                            width: 640
                                            height: 480
                                            title: qsTr("Hello World")
                                        
                                            ListModel{
                                                id: databaseModel
                                                ListElement{
                                                    topic: "While Loop"
                                                    dificulty: 3
                                                    question_num: 3
                                                    question_text: "While Loop 3,3"
                                                }
                                        
                                                ListElement{
                                                    topic: "While Loop"
                                                    dificulty: 3
                                                    question_num: 4
                                                    question_text: "While Loop 3,4"
                                                }
                                            }
                                        
                                            SwipeView {
                                                id: view
                                                anchors.fill: parent
                                                anchors.bottomMargin: 20
                                                interactive: false
                                                currentIndex: pageIndicator.currentIndex
                                                Repeater {
                                                    model: databaseModel
                                                    Loader {
                                                        active: SwipeView.isCurrentItem || SwipeView.isNextItem || SwipeView.isPreviousItem
                                                        sourceComponent: Page{
                                                            Rectangle{
                                                                width: view.width / 2
                                                                height: view.height / 2
                                                                color: "white"
                                                                anchors.centerIn: parent
                                        
                                                                Text{
                                                                    anchors.centerIn: parent
                                                                    text: "Question: " + model.question_text
                                                                }
                                                            }
                                                        }
                                                    }
                                                }
                                            }
                                        
                                            PageIndicator {
                                                id: pageIndicator
                                                count: databaseModel.count
                                                interactive: true
                                                currentIndex: 0
                                                anchors.bottom: parent.bottom
                                                anchors.horizontalCenter: parent.horizontalCenter
                                        
                                            }
                                        
                                        }
                                        

                                        Note: the listModel (Data) and Game Logic can be implemented from c++.

                                        And also I consider looking at SQLite. Where would I store the questions kinda thing or the output to compare to the user input? Thank you again in advance :)

                                        Firstly, it may be implement of several ways...
                                        You can insert a Json text with correct_answer index and answers.
                                        Or create an array of text and correct_answer field (i'm not sure how it could be implemented).

                                        Json Example:

                                        {
                                           "correct_answer": 0,
                                           "answers": [
                                              "Answer 1",
                                              "Answer 2",
                                              "Answer 3"
                                           ]
                                        }
                                        

                                        Also, the difficulty_level don't need to be a string field. You can storage an intenger number 1-3 and interpret it in your app. 1 -> Beginner, 2 -> Intermediate.

                                        I recommend you to read these materials to understand the Relational Database Concepts:
                                        Telvents - RDBMS Concepts
                                        TutorialsPoint - RDBMS Concepts

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                                        @KillerSmath
                                        Good day! Thank you for your response.
                                        As of now, I have not learned QML yet. I only know the basic of QT Widget Application and I also tried the Stack Widget in it. QML seems pretty daunting to me for now but I will consider peeking and see if I could work on it.

                                        Sadly I need to finish this app within 3 weeks from now or else I would not meet the deadline. I think I wouldn't be able to dig deep into things because that would eat up my time.

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                                          @dvlpr.bernard said in Advice about the application I will be making? (I'm a beginner):

                                          Do I need objects and classes (not that familiar with that) or mostly I would use functions?

                                          You will be mostly used classes since all Widgets are classes.
                                          the Print_Question should be a member function to the MainWindow so
                                          it can access the widgets. You can use QLabel for the topic (call setText on it)
                                          and QPlainTextEdit for the user / answer input.
                                          The design looks fine. You can realize it with a stacked widget.

                                          for both the Topic and Level selection, you have 2 options.
                                          1: as soon as the user click button, its selected and page is changed.
                                          2: You set Checkable on the buttons, so they are like a checkbox ( can be selected) and
                                          first when user press next, the page is changed.

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