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  • M Marek
    21 Jun 2018, 17:08

    @JonB does this matter if on my win 10 there is o MachineGuid key ?
    I'm checking something, I'm using MinGW 32 bit, https://github.com/gentoo90/winreg-rs/issues/10 try to compile with msvc2017 64bit

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    JonB
    wrote on 21 Jun 2018, 17:27 last edited by JonB
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    @Marek
    Yes it can. It's all to do with the Wow6432Node key:

    Yes, for 32-bit software 64-bit OS will substitute HKLM\SOFTWARE\ path with HKLM\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\. So you were trying to read HKLM\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Cryptography\MachineGuid which doesn't exist.

    You did not say in your question that any 32-bitted-ness was involved at your side, I assumed all 64-bit, else I would have said about needing to change where you look in the registry :)

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    • J JonB
      21 Jun 2018, 17:27

      @Marek
      Yes it can. It's all to do with the Wow6432Node key:

      Yes, for 32-bit software 64-bit OS will substitute HKLM\SOFTWARE\ path with HKLM\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\. So you were trying to read HKLM\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Cryptography\MachineGuid which doesn't exist.

      You did not say in your question that any 32-bitted-ness was involved at your side, I assumed all 64-bit, else I would have said about needing to change where you look in the registry :)

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      Marek
      wrote on 21 Jun 2018, 17:48 last edited by
      #19

      @JonB I did not supposed it matters, frankly I prefer to use MinGW (old habits maybe) and I didn't see Qt 5.11 for MinGW 64bit.
      @CoreyAnderson how this HP printer support is related to Qt or even Windows 10, I don't get it, you mean bug in Windows that it does not provide key for 32bit apps ?

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      • M Marek
        21 Jun 2018, 17:48

        @JonB I did not supposed it matters, frankly I prefer to use MinGW (old habits maybe) and I didn't see Qt 5.11 for MinGW 64bit.
        @CoreyAnderson how this HP printer support is related to Qt or even Windows 10, I don't get it, you mean bug in Windows that it does not provide key for 32bit apps ?

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        wrote on 21 Jun 2018, 17:59 last edited by JonB
        #20

        @Marek

        Ignore @CoreyAnderson 's post, he is just advertising his hyperlink! It's a scam.

        You can use a 64-bit compiler with no issue. If you want to use a 32-bit compiler, you will have to do some work.

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        • J JonB
          21 Jun 2018, 17:59

          @Marek

          Ignore @CoreyAnderson 's post, he is just advertising his hyperlink! It's a scam.

          You can use a 64-bit compiler with no issue. If you want to use a 32-bit compiler, you will have to do some work.

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          Marek
          wrote on 21 Jun 2018, 18:06 last edited by
          #21

          @JonB but I was downloading Qt 5.11.1 throught Maintenance tool and there was MinGW 32Bit not 64Bit

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          • M Marek
            21 Jun 2018, 18:06

            @JonB but I was downloading Qt 5.11.1 throught Maintenance tool and there was MinGW 32Bit not 64Bit

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            wrote on 21 Jun 2018, 18:14 last edited by
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            @Marek
            I don't know what to say other than you have the choice of what compiler and bitted-ness are used to compile Qt, and you decide which target platforms you wish to support. In this case you have found a situation where there is a 32-bit/64-bit Windows Registry issue if you mix bitted-nesses.

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            • J JonB
              21 Jun 2018, 18:14

              @Marek
              I don't know what to say other than you have the choice of what compiler and bitted-ness are used to compile Qt, and you decide which target platforms you wish to support. In this case you have found a situation where there is a 32-bit/64-bit Windows Registry issue if you mix bitted-nesses.

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              JKSH
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              wrote on 21 Jun 2018, 23:44 last edited by
              #23

              I sense a bit of miscommunication in the last few messages; @Marek and @JonB are talking about slightly different things.

              @Marek's observation is correct: The Maintenance Tool does not provide a pre-built 64-bit version of Qt for MinGW.

              @JonB's point is also correct: We can choose from a variety of 32-bit and 64-bit versions. (But if we want 64-bit MinGW, then we need to build Qt ourselves -- we can't just download it through the MaintenanceTool)

              Qt Doc Search for browsers: forum.qt.io/topic/35616/web-browser-extension-for-improved-doc-searches

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              • J JKSH
                21 Jun 2018, 23:44

                I sense a bit of miscommunication in the last few messages; @Marek and @JonB are talking about slightly different things.

                @Marek's observation is correct: The Maintenance Tool does not provide a pre-built 64-bit version of Qt for MinGW.

                @JonB's point is also correct: We can choose from a variety of 32-bit and 64-bit versions. (But if we want 64-bit MinGW, then we need to build Qt ourselves -- we can't just download it through the MaintenanceTool)

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                JonB
                wrote on 22 Jun 2018, 05:52 last edited by JonB
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                @JKSH
                Ah, I don't even know what that "Maintenance Tool" is! I actually thought it might be for building Qt yourself, now I understand it gives pre-compiled versions. And you're saying it does not offer 64-bit for MinGW.

                @Marek
                You still have two choices for your issue:

                • If you use a 64-bit Qt there is no problem. That could be pre-compiled or compiled by you, and it could be MinGW, MSVC or whatever. I do not know whether you find using either a pre-supplied MSVC 64-bit (does Maint Tool have that?) or compiling for yourself a 64-bit MinGW acceptable or a pain in the ass.

                • If you use a 32-bit Qt --- perhaps the conveniently pre-compiled MinGW one --- there is a problem, because of where that looks in the Registry. You can probably address this by doing something in your app code, but we haven't investigated this yet as you haven't said which Qt 32/64-bit route you wish to pursue.

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                • J JonB
                  22 Jun 2018, 05:52

                  @JKSH
                  Ah, I don't even know what that "Maintenance Tool" is! I actually thought it might be for building Qt yourself, now I understand it gives pre-compiled versions. And you're saying it does not offer 64-bit for MinGW.

                  @Marek
                  You still have two choices for your issue:

                  • If you use a 64-bit Qt there is no problem. That could be pre-compiled or compiled by you, and it could be MinGW, MSVC or whatever. I do not know whether you find using either a pre-supplied MSVC 64-bit (does Maint Tool have that?) or compiling for yourself a 64-bit MinGW acceptable or a pain in the ass.

                  • If you use a 32-bit Qt --- perhaps the conveniently pre-compiled MinGW one --- there is a problem, because of where that looks in the Registry. You can probably address this by doing something in your app code, but we haven't investigated this yet as you haven't said which Qt 32/64-bit route you wish to pursue.

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                  Marek
                  wrote on 22 Jun 2018, 06:11 last edited by
                  #25

                  @JonB Thanks for your help.
                  MSVC 64Bit is provided by Maintenance Tool.
                  Compiling Qt on Windows with 64-Bit MinGW might be a pain ;) I'm doing this quite often on embedded platforms but then I need much less modules. What is more, I'm writing code that someone else will use in his projects, so it needs to be compatible with commercial Qt license.
                  I will stick to MSVC 64Bit.

                  Thanks,
                  Marek

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                  • M Marek
                    22 Jun 2018, 06:11

                    @JonB Thanks for your help.
                    MSVC 64Bit is provided by Maintenance Tool.
                    Compiling Qt on Windows with 64-Bit MinGW might be a pain ;) I'm doing this quite often on embedded platforms but then I need much less modules. What is more, I'm writing code that someone else will use in his projects, so it needs to be compatible with commercial Qt license.
                    I will stick to MSVC 64Bit.

                    Thanks,
                    Marek

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                    JonB
                    wrote on 22 Jun 2018, 06:19 last edited by JonB
                    #26

                    @Marek
                    So it sounds like you will use 64-bit, this problem will go away and we don't need to investigate any further.
                    I presume all your targets will be 64-bit, none 32-bit(?).

                    Now that we know how QSysInfo::machineUniqueId() relies on finding that "MachineGuid" in the correct place in the Registry where it looks, and there's some possibility it may not find it, you might be best documenting this somewhere for both developers & end-users, and/or providing a "fallback" mechanism if it returns an empty string.

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                    • J JonB
                      22 Jun 2018, 06:19

                      @Marek
                      So it sounds like you will use 64-bit, this problem will go away and we don't need to investigate any further.
                      I presume all your targets will be 64-bit, none 32-bit(?).

                      Now that we know how QSysInfo::machineUniqueId() relies on finding that "MachineGuid" in the correct place in the Registry where it looks, and there's some possibility it may not find it, you might be best documenting this somewhere for both developers & end-users, and/or providing a "fallback" mechanism if it returns an empty string.

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                      Marek
                      wrote on 22 Jun 2018, 07:00 last edited by
                      #27

                      @JonB I'm reading mac addresses of network cards when machineUniqueId returns empty string. This can be problematic especially when someone uses detachable usb->wifi adapter but I don't see other option with Qt.

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                      • M Marek
                        22 Jun 2018, 07:00

                        @JonB I'm reading mac addresses of network cards when machineUniqueId returns empty string. This can be problematic especially when someone uses detachable usb->wifi adapter but I don't see other option with Qt.

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                        JonB
                        wrote on 22 Jun 2018, 07:08 last edited by JonB
                        #28

                        @Marek
                        Well Qt is only a library providing "abstracted, convenience" functions where possible, it's not magic, so yes sometimes you have to supply your own alternatives as best you can. If you can't find anything, chances are nor can Qt.

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