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  • M mrjj
    2 Oct 2016, 14:55

    @Ahti
    To be allowed to send emails via google server you need to be
    authenticated. So yes, your app must "log in" to the google account you
    are sending over.

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    Ahti
    wrote on 2 Oct 2016, 14:59 last edited by Ahti 10 Feb 2016, 15:22
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    @mrjj

    I don't understand this why i have to login my account ? the user who is using my app sends the email to my email address now if i login my account to the users machine there is no point of it.

    what is a signature ?? Lol

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      wrote on 2 Oct 2016, 17:22 last edited by
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      @Ahti @mrjj probably meant to say that you will need an email service so that users can send an email. And this email service will provide an email gateway. To use this gateway you will need an authentication.

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      • P p3c0
        2 Oct 2016, 17:22

        @Ahti @mrjj probably meant to say that you will need an email service so that users can send an email. And this email service will provide an email gateway. To use this gateway you will need an authentication.

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        wrote on 3 Oct 2016, 09:57 last edited by
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        @p3c0

        and how can i aquire all this ?

        what is a signature ?? Lol

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          wrote on 3 Oct 2016, 10:06 last edited by
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          Have you registered to any email service ?

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            3 Oct 2016, 10:06

            Have you registered to any email service ?

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            Ahti
            wrote on 3 Oct 2016, 15:22 last edited by
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            @p3c0

            I have an account in gmail and yahoo

            what is a signature ?? Lol

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              VRonin
              wrote on 3 Oct 2016, 15:40 last edited by
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              When there is a library that is considered standard I tend to suggest it over some 1-man-wrapper. Not because the latter is bad but it's so much easier to find docs/examples/support when a library is very popular.

              This leads me to libcurl (there are some relatively active C++ bindings like https://github.com/JosephP91/curlcpp but the core C api should be more than enough for what you are trying to do)

              Here you can find an example of sending an email using gmail

              "La mort n'est rien, mais vivre vaincu et sans gloire, c'est mourir tous les jours"
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              On a crusade to banish setIndexWidget() from the holy land of Qt

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              • V VRonin
                3 Oct 2016, 15:40

                When there is a library that is considered standard I tend to suggest it over some 1-man-wrapper. Not because the latter is bad but it's so much easier to find docs/examples/support when a library is very popular.

                This leads me to libcurl (there are some relatively active C++ bindings like https://github.com/JosephP91/curlcpp but the core C api should be more than enough for what you are trying to do)

                Here you can find an example of sending an email using gmail

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                wrote on 3 Oct 2016, 15:56 last edited by
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                @VRonin

                Well that is difficult to understand and i don't know how to implement it.

                what is a signature ?? Lol

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                • V VRonin
                  3 Oct 2016, 15:40

                  When there is a library that is considered standard I tend to suggest it over some 1-man-wrapper. Not because the latter is bad but it's so much easier to find docs/examples/support when a library is very popular.

                  This leads me to libcurl (there are some relatively active C++ bindings like https://github.com/JosephP91/curlcpp but the core C api should be more than enough for what you are trying to do)

                  Here you can find an example of sending an email using gmail

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                  Ahti
                  wrote on 3 Oct 2016, 16:01 last edited by Ahti 10 Mar 2016, 16:02
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                  @VRonin @p3c0 @mrjj

                  Okay guys tell me how can i simply let user to login to his/her email from my app and then let them send email to me ?? I have to get connected to the email server before i let them sign in right ?

                  what is a signature ?? Lol

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                    wrote on 3 Oct 2016, 16:29 last edited by
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                    @Ahti Your users will use their email address only to login to you forum.
                    Now that you have email service and a registered user to use that service, your users will use this email user to send email to you.
                    You should probably maintain multiple users in case if you have a large userbase.

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                    • A Ahti
                      3 Oct 2016, 16:01

                      @VRonin @p3c0 @mrjj

                      Okay guys tell me how can i simply let user to login to his/her email from my app and then let them send email to me ?? I have to get connected to the email server before i let them sign in right ?

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                      VRonin
                      wrote on 3 Oct 2016, 16:44 last edited by
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                      @Ahti said in How can the user send email to me from my app ?:

                      Okay guys tell me how can i simply let user to login to his/her email from my app and then let them send email to me ?

                      This is even harder as you should know their mail server and sometimes you cannot really access it (for example if they use a private MS exchange server)

                      I put here another example with libcurl: https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/smtp-mail.html

                      If you think it's not for you then the easy route is using QDesktopServices::openUrl("mailto:youremail@address.com");

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                      • A Ahti
                        3 Oct 2016, 15:56

                        @VRonin

                        Well that is difficult to understand and i don't know how to implement it.

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                        jsulm
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                        wrote on 4 Oct 2016, 04:52 last edited by
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                        @Ahti Why not just let the user use their preferred EMail client to send an EMail to you? See http://stackoverflow.com/questions/28674805/open-default-mail-app-from-within-qt-with-some-html
                        It is much easier and the user can use his/her EMail client.
                        You still can have a form in your app (I guess you meant form not forum?), but then you pass that data via a mailto: URL to the system, which then opens the standard EMail client and fill the data user entered in your form.

                        https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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                        • J jsulm
                          4 Oct 2016, 04:52

                          @Ahti Why not just let the user use their preferred EMail client to send an EMail to you? See http://stackoverflow.com/questions/28674805/open-default-mail-app-from-within-qt-with-some-html
                          It is much easier and the user can use his/her EMail client.
                          You still can have a form in your app (I guess you meant form not forum?), but then you pass that data via a mailto: URL to the system, which then opens the standard EMail client and fill the data user entered in your form.

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                          Ahti
                          wrote on 4 Oct 2016, 07:39 last edited by
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                          @jsulm
                          Okay why would he has to login from the broswer and then use my app to send email to me ? Can't he simply login to his email account from my app and send mail to me from my app ? And yes i meant form not forum sorry for the mistake. And i used that "QDesktopService..." And it opens up MS outlook.

                          what is a signature ?? Lol

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                            wrote on 4 Oct 2016, 07:47 last edited by mrjj 10 Jun 2016, 06:16
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                            Ok. listen. we need to talk about sending emails.

                            A program cannot just send email. It need the help of
                            a mail server. That is another PC that has a post office program.
                            Like GMAIL is. its a mail service.

                            So for your program to send mails, you need to send via such server.

                            That can happen

                            1: You pop outlook via QDesktopService and the mail is sent over whatever server outlook is using.

                            2: You send via a google account that your program knows username and password for.
                            So before sending email via GOOGLE you will login to this account inside the program.
                            This is part of the SMTP protocol.

                            3: You use some online mail service where you can send email via some API.

                            You could also ask user to login to his mail service but I would never give my password to any unknown program so it's not a good solution and also teaches the users to do stupid things.

                            So the part you need to understand is that Sending email demands that the MAIL server knows who u are. So the programs need to supply username and password to the MAil server
                            to be allowed to send anything.

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                            • A Ahti
                              4 Oct 2016, 07:39

                              @jsulm
                              Okay why would he has to login from the broswer and then use my app to send email to me ? Can't he simply login to his email account from my app and send mail to me from my app ? And yes i meant form not forum sorry for the mistake. And i used that "QDesktopService..." And it opens up MS outlook.

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                              jsulm
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                              wrote on 4 Oct 2016, 07:58 last edited by
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                              @Ahti To be sure: when you say "my app" you mean a desktop app? If so then there is no need to log-in from a browser, why do you think so? The user opens that dialog/form in your app, enters needed data (subject, message body) and presses the "Send" button. Then his/her default EMail client is opened where he/she send the EMail from there.

                              https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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                              • J jsulm
                                4 Oct 2016, 07:58

                                @Ahti To be sure: when you say "my app" you mean a desktop app? If so then there is no need to log-in from a browser, why do you think so? The user opens that dialog/form in your app, enters needed data (subject, message body) and presses the "Send" button. Then his/her default EMail client is opened where he/she send the EMail from there.

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                                Ahti
                                wrote on 5 Oct 2016, 13:59 last edited by Ahti 10 May 2016, 14:01
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                                @jsulm yes from my desktop app how can i connect to user's email so that he can send email.

                                what is a signature ?? Lol

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                                • M mrjj
                                  4 Oct 2016, 07:47

                                  Ok. listen. we need to talk about sending emails.

                                  A program cannot just send email. It need the help of
                                  a mail server. That is another PC that has a post office program.
                                  Like GMAIL is. its a mail service.

                                  So for your program to send mails, you need to send via such server.

                                  That can happen

                                  1: You pop outlook via QDesktopService and the mail is sent over whatever server outlook is using.

                                  2: You send via a google account that your program knows username and password for.
                                  So before sending email via GOOGLE you will login to this account inside the program.
                                  This is part of the SMTP protocol.

                                  3: You use some online mail service where you can send email via some API.

                                  You could also ask user to login to his mail service but I would never give my password to any unknown program so it's not a good solution and also teaches the users to do stupid things.

                                  So the part you need to understand is that Sending email demands that the MAIL server knows who u are. So the programs need to supply username and password to the MAil server
                                  to be allowed to send anything.

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                                  Ahti
                                  wrote on 5 Oct 2016, 14:14 last edited by
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                                  @mrjj yeah that is what i want, user should login to his mail account from my desktop app and then should sent mail from my desktop app.

                                  what is a signature ?? Lol

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                                  • A Ahti
                                    5 Oct 2016, 13:59

                                    @jsulm yes from my desktop app how can i connect to user's email so that he can send email.

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                                    wrote on 6 Oct 2016, 04:18 last edited by
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                                    @Ahti If you want that the user logs in from your app then the user must enter his EMail account data (server address/port, user name, password). That's why I suggested to not to do it this way but just start users EMail client (Outlook, Thunderbird, what ever). This is much easier and the user can use his/her EMail client.
                                    @mrjj already explained what needs to be done, so it is really not an easy task and overkill in my opinion.

                                    https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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                                      peteritv
                                      wrote on 6 Oct 2016, 13:20 last edited by
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                                      Again, maybe I am completely out of line here since I am just a Qt beginner myself, but ur talking about browsers, right?
                                      So you have some webserver that serves ur app, right?

                                      If ur server is not able to handle SMTP (mail) then I think we're done talking.

                                      Look at ur server! Not the app itself...

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                                        6 Oct 2016, 13:20

                                        Again, maybe I am completely out of line here since I am just a Qt beginner myself, but ur talking about browsers, right?
                                        So you have some webserver that serves ur app, right?

                                        If ur server is not able to handle SMTP (mail) then I think we're done talking.

                                        Look at ur server! Not the app itself...

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                                        wrote on 6 Oct 2016, 13:28 last edited by
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                                        @peteritv said in How can the user send email to me from my app ?:

                                        Again, maybe I am completely out of line here since I am just a Qt beginner myself, but ur talking about browsers, right?
                                        So you have some webserver that serves ur app, right?

                                        If ur server is not able to handle SMTP (mail) then I think we're done talking.

                                        Look at ur server! Not the app itself...

                                        I do not believe that sending an e-mail from ur app to you has anything to do with mail suppliers or clients.
                                        When I put a simple <a with a href to my e-mail account, anyone, no matter what, can send me an e-mail.

                                        You can even put it in ur apps global stylesheet I guess...

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                                        • P peteritv
                                          6 Oct 2016, 13:28

                                          @peteritv said in How can the user send email to me from my app ?:

                                          Again, maybe I am completely out of line here since I am just a Qt beginner myself, but ur talking about browsers, right?
                                          So you have some webserver that serves ur app, right?

                                          If ur server is not able to handle SMTP (mail) then I think we're done talking.

                                          Look at ur server! Not the app itself...

                                          I do not believe that sending an e-mail from ur app to you has anything to do with mail suppliers or clients.
                                          When I put a simple <a with a href to my e-mail account, anyone, no matter what, can send me an e-mail.

                                          You can even put it in ur apps global stylesheet I guess...

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                                          wrote on 7 Oct 2016, 04:50 last edited by
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                                          @peteritv It is a desktop application as far as I know. See above, I already asked what exactly it is.

                                          https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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