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Memory difference between QMap<MyInst,QColor> and QMap<MyInst,QString)

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  • Q Offline
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    I have two maps and maps can contains around 10000 entries

    What is better in terms of memory
    QMap<MyInst,QColor>

    and QMap<MyInst,QString)

    and how much memory penality is of one map over other

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    • Q Qt Enthusiast

      I have two maps and maps can contains around 10000 entries

      What is better in terms of memory
      QMap<MyInst,QColor>

      and QMap<MyInst,QString)

      and how much memory penality is of one map over other

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      kshegunov
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      #2

      @Qt-Enthusiast
      Why are you asking? Usually you shouldn't care.

      Read and abide by the Qt Code of Conduct

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      • mrjjM Offline
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        mrjj
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        also, what is in the QString ?
        QColor has fixed size but QString could be MB in size.
        so all depends on what u put in QString.

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        • Q Offline
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          it has hex value for QColor , as I understand having QMap<MyInst,QString) will be more optimal than QMap<MyInst,QColor> if I store hexvalue of a QColor in QString

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          • Q Qt Enthusiast

            it has hex value for QColor , as I understand having QMap<MyInst,QString) will be more optimal than QMap<MyInst,QColor> if I store hexvalue of a QColor in QString

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            mrjj
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            @Qt-Enthusiast
            yes a hex value should be less. maybe.
            u can just test it with
            sizeof

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            • Q Qt Enthusiast

              it has hex value for QColor , as I understand having QMap<MyInst,QString) will be more optimal than QMap<MyInst,QColor> if I store hexvalue of a QColor in QString

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              kshegunov
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              @Qt-Enthusiast
              No! 1 character in QString is 2 bytes (it uses unicode), so the 6 characters you need to store the color will be 12 bytes vs the 3 (or 4 bytes with alpha) you need for representing a color. But again, why do you care? Just use what makes sense - QColor for colors, QString for strings ...

              @mrjj
              sizeof isn't useful here:

              sizeof(QString) == sizeof(void *)
              

              Read and abide by the Qt Code of Conduct

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              • kshegunovK kshegunov

                @Qt-Enthusiast
                No! 1 character in QString is 2 bytes (it uses unicode), so the 6 characters you need to store the color will be 12 bytes vs the 3 (or 4 bytes with alpha) you need for representing a color. But again, why do you care? Just use what makes sense - QColor for colors, QString for strings ...

                @mrjj
                sizeof isn't useful here:

                sizeof(QString) == sizeof(void *)
                
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                @kshegunov
                yes u are right ( as always)
                Just meant for checking how much QColor will take.

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                • mrjjM mrjj

                  @kshegunov
                  yes u are right ( as always)
                  Just meant for checking how much QColor will take.

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                  kshegunov
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                  #8

                  @mrjj
                  It's easier to just check it up:
                  http://code.qt.io/cgit/qt/qtbase.git/tree/src/gui/painting/qcolor.h#n227

                  1 enum which is the word's size + 5 shorts in the union.
                  For a 64 bit machine this is 6 shorts 5 shorts and an int64 or 12 bytes 18 bytes. So there's no difference.

                  EDIT:
                  My math skills apparently suck.
                  A QString represented color will require 12 bytes for the 6 characters + 8 bytes on a 64 bit OS for the pointer + 4 bytes for the atomic reference counter used in the implicit sharing, which totals to 24 bytes

                  Read and abide by the Qt Code of Conduct

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                  • kshegunovK kshegunov

                    @mrjj
                    It's easier to just check it up:
                    http://code.qt.io/cgit/qt/qtbase.git/tree/src/gui/painting/qcolor.h#n227

                    1 enum which is the word's size + 5 shorts in the union.
                    For a 64 bit machine this is 6 shorts 5 shorts and an int64 or 12 bytes 18 bytes. So there's no difference.

                    EDIT:
                    My math skills apparently suck.
                    A QString represented color will require 12 bytes for the 6 characters + 8 bytes on a 64 bit OS for the pointer + 4 bytes for the atomic reference counter used in the implicit sharing, which totals to 24 bytes

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                    mrjj
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                    @kshegunov
                    also, unless he has a 10.000.000
                    it might not really matter :)

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                      Hi,

                      And to add my fellows, if you have a doubt: benchmark. That way you'll what suites your needs best.

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                      Please read the Qt Code of Conduct - https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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                      • kshegunovK kshegunov

                        @mrjj
                        It's easier to just check it up:
                        http://code.qt.io/cgit/qt/qtbase.git/tree/src/gui/painting/qcolor.h#n227

                        1 enum which is the word's size + 5 shorts in the union.
                        For a 64 bit machine this is 6 shorts 5 shorts and an int64 or 12 bytes 18 bytes. So there's no difference.

                        EDIT:
                        My math skills apparently suck.
                        A QString represented color will require 12 bytes for the 6 characters + 8 bytes on a 64 bit OS for the pointer + 4 bytes for the atomic reference counter used in the implicit sharing, which totals to 24 bytes

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                        Sorry does that mean QString takes more memory that QColor

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                        • Q Offline
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                          EDIT:
                          My math skills apparently suck.
                          A QString represented color will require 12 bytes for the 6 characters + 8 bytes on a 64 bit OS for the pointer + 4 bytes for the atomic reference counter used in the implicit sharing, which totals to 24 bytes

                          This is not clear to me how much memory QString takes

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                            mrjj
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                            hi
                            24 bytes it seems. :)

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                              so QString takes more memory that QColor ?

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                              • Q Qt Enthusiast

                                so QString takes more memory that QColor ?

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                                mrjj
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                                @Qt-Enthusiast
                                yes. on 64 bit, even more.

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                                • Q Qt Enthusiast

                                  so QString takes more memory that QColor ?

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                                  kshegunov
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                                  @Qt-Enthusiast
                                  18 bytes for a QColor instance vs about 30 bytes for a QString object with 6 letters (QString will also keep one zero character at the end and will store the length, as addition to the things I've described in my edit). So yes, QColor will take less memory.

                                  But I just can't stress this enough: use what makes sense. Even if QString were more memory efficient, the complications and the needed CPU time for conversions between colors and strings just makes it unsuitable. And small wonder, it's supposed to be a general purpose string, not a color. There's a separate class that represents colors, so you should use that in any case and not worry about how much bytes anything takes unless you hit the memory limit (which seems doubtful at this point).

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                                  • kshegunovK kshegunov

                                    @Qt-Enthusiast
                                    18 bytes for a QColor instance vs about 30 bytes for a QString object with 6 letters (QString will also keep one zero character at the end and will store the length, as addition to the things I've described in my edit). So yes, QColor will take less memory.

                                    But I just can't stress this enough: use what makes sense. Even if QString were more memory efficient, the complications and the needed CPU time for conversions between colors and strings just makes it unsuitable. And small wonder, it's supposed to be a general purpose string, not a color. There's a separate class that represents colors, so you should use that in any case and not worry about how much bytes anything takes unless you hit the memory limit (which seems doubtful at this point).

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                                    jsulm
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                                    @kshegunov Yes, using QString instead of QColor to represent a colour just to save some bytes is an example for how not to optimize software.
                                    @qtEnthusiast why not use an 32bit unsigned int to represent a colour? This way you only need 4 bytes.

                                    https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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                                    • jsulmJ jsulm

                                      @kshegunov Yes, using QString instead of QColor to represent a colour just to save some bytes is an example for how not to optimize software.
                                      @qtEnthusiast why not use an 32bit unsigned int to represent a colour? This way you only need 4 bytes.

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                                      @jsulm
                                      Following your thought of unsigned int

                                      Would
                                      QMap<MyInst,QRgb);

                                      be as good?

                                      It does seems
                                      QColor::QColor(QRgb color)

                                      will ignore alpha.

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                                      • mrjjM mrjj

                                        @jsulm
                                        Following your thought of unsigned int

                                        Would
                                        QMap<MyInst,QRgb);

                                        be as good?

                                        It does seems
                                        QColor::QColor(QRgb color)

                                        will ignore alpha.

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                                        jsulm
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                                        @mrjj It depends on the requirements: is alpha needed?

                                        https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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                                        • jsulmJ jsulm

                                          @mrjj It depends on the requirements: is alpha needed?

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                                          mrjj
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                                          wrote on last edited by mrjj
                                          #20

                                          @jsulm
                                          Hi
                                          Not 100% sure but my guess would be
                                          yes from what he posted so far.

                                          update:
                                          funny enough it seems to like alpha the other way
                                          QRgb QColor::rgba() const

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