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  • VRoninV Offline
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    wrote on last edited by VRonin
    #8

    EDIT: I WAS WRONG

    no matter how you pass thos variables [&] or [=]. when the lambda gets called all those pointers will be junk so it won't work

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    • VRoninV VRonin

      EDIT: I WAS WRONG

      no matter how you pass thos variables [&] or [=]. when the lambda gets called all those pointers will be junk so it won't work

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      wrote on last edited by
      #9

      @VRonin

      when the lambda gets called all those pointers will be junk

      Why? I think @jsulm is correct here.

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      • VRoninV Offline
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        wrote on last edited by VRonin
        #10

        EDIT: I WAS WRONG

        when You call build_tab_from_plugin() all the pointers are valid and fine, then the function terminates and all pointers go out of scope. when the button is pressed, the code goes into the lambda (imagine a goto), the environment of build_tab_from_plugin is recreated but you don't know what the pointers point to right now. the lambda won't save the value of any of the pointers in its body uppon declaration

        "La mort n'est rien, mais vivre vaincu et sans gloire, c'est mourir tous les jours"
        ~Napoleon Bonaparte

        On a crusade to banish setIndexWidget() from the holy land of Qt

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        • DumaPlusPlusD Offline
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          wrote on last edited by
          #11

          thanks to all.
          @jsulm resolves my problem but now i'm bit confused when do i connect SIGNAL with lambda this isn't stored somewhere? and reference used in lambda isn't an alias to a pointer (something that stay in memoery untile delete operator is called) ?

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          • VRoninV VRonin

            EDIT: I WAS WRONG

            when You call build_tab_from_plugin() all the pointers are valid and fine, then the function terminates and all pointers go out of scope. when the button is pressed, the code goes into the lambda (imagine a goto), the environment of build_tab_from_plugin is recreated but you don't know what the pointers point to right now. the lambda won't save the value of any of the pointers in its body uppon declaration

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            wrote on last edited by kshegunov
            #12

            @VRonin said:

            the lambda won't save the value of any of the pointers in its body uppon declaration

            Sure about this? As far as I know C++11 (which isn't so well) a pointer is an automatic storage variable and is copy-captured by [=] as any other auto-storage variable.

            the code goes into the lambda (imagine a goto), the environment of build_tab_from_plugin is recreated

            This is very wrong way of thinking about a lambda, sorry for saying. A lambda is a typical functor (and is implemented as such).

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            • DumaPlusPlusD DumaPlusPlus

              thanks to all.
              @jsulm resolves my problem but now i'm bit confused when do i connect SIGNAL with lambda this isn't stored somewhere? and reference used in lambda isn't an alias to a pointer (something that stay in memoery untile delete operator is called) ?

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              jsulm
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              wrote on last edited by
              #13

              @DumaPlusPlus If you use references then then "point" to the variable. In your case they point to local variables. These local variables disappear as soon as the method finishes, so the "pointers" to them are not valid anymore - because they do not exist anymore.

              https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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              • VRoninV VRonin

                EDIT: I WAS WRONG

                when You call build_tab_from_plugin() all the pointers are valid and fine, then the function terminates and all pointers go out of scope. when the button is pressed, the code goes into the lambda (imagine a goto), the environment of build_tab_from_plugin is recreated but you don't know what the pointers point to right now. the lambda won't save the value of any of the pointers in its body uppon declaration

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                jsulm
                Lifetime Qt Champion
                wrote on last edited by
                #14

                @VRonin Sorry, but you're wrong. You can easily test this: using [&] will crash, using [=] works just fine.

                https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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                • jsulmJ jsulm

                  @VRonin Sorry, but you're wrong. You can easily test this: using [&] will crash, using [=] works just fine.

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                  wrote on last edited by VRonin
                  #15

                  @jsulm I'm really confused now as I tested it and this code works 100% fine, even with [&]. how can it be?!

                  #include <QCoreApplication>
                  #include<QDebug>
                  #include <QTimer>
                  
                  
                  int main(int argc, char *argv[]) {
                      QCoreApplication appl(argc,argv);
                      QTimer mainTimer;
                      mainTimer.setSingleShot(true);
                      {
                          QString* myString=nullptr;
                          myString=new QString("A Message");
                          QObject::connect(&mainTimer,&QTimer::timeout,[&](){qDebug() << *myString;});
                          QObject::connect(&mainTimer,&QTimer::timeout,[=](){qDebug() << *myString;});
                          // Memory leak!
                      }
                  
                      mainTimer.start(100);
                      return appl.exec();
                  }
                  
                  

                  EDIT:
                  Using MSVC2013 on Windows

                  "La mort n'est rien, mais vivre vaincu et sans gloire, c'est mourir tous les jours"
                  ~Napoleon Bonaparte

                  On a crusade to banish setIndexWidget() from the holy land of Qt

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                  • VRoninV VRonin

                    @jsulm I'm really confused now as I tested it and this code works 100% fine, even with [&]. how can it be?!

                    #include <QCoreApplication>
                    #include<QDebug>
                    #include <QTimer>
                    
                    
                    int main(int argc, char *argv[]) {
                        QCoreApplication appl(argc,argv);
                        QTimer mainTimer;
                        mainTimer.setSingleShot(true);
                        {
                            QString* myString=nullptr;
                            myString=new QString("A Message");
                            QObject::connect(&mainTimer,&QTimer::timeout,[&](){qDebug() << *myString;});
                            QObject::connect(&mainTimer,&QTimer::timeout,[=](){qDebug() << *myString;});
                            // Memory leak!
                        }
                    
                        mainTimer.start(100);
                        return appl.exec();
                    }
                    
                    

                    EDIT:
                    Using MSVC2013 on Windows

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                    wrote on last edited by kshegunov
                    #16

                    @VRonin said:

                    QObject::connect(&mainTimer,&QTimer::timeout,[&](){qDebug() << *myString;});
                    

                    What about:

                    QObject::connect(&mainTimer,&QTimer::timeout,[&](){myString = nullptr;});
                    

                    You're capturing QString*, so you'd end up with: QString*& but you don't modify the string pointer, rather you dereference the object it's pointing to, so you'd try to output a QString & with QDebug. Also probably your compiler somewhat lax. :)

                    PS.
                    Well that's really disturbing ... I don't get any errors either. The memory will silently be overwritten. (g++ on Linux)

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                    • VRoninV Offline
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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #17

                      second test:

                      #include <QCoreApplication>
                      #include <QDebug>
                      #include <QTimer>
                      #include <QPointer>
                      
                      int main(int argc, char *argv[]) {
                          QCoreApplication appl(argc,argv);
                          QTimer mainTimer;
                          mainTimer.setSingleShot(true);
                          {
                              QPointer<QObject> mybj;
                              mybj =new QObject();
                              mybj->setObjectName("A Message");
                              QObject::connect(&mainTimer,&QTimer::timeout,[&](){qDebug() << mybj->objectName(); mybj->setObjectName("Foo"); qDebug() << mybj->objectName();});
                              QObject::connect(&mainTimer,&QTimer::timeout,[=](){qDebug() << mybj->objectName(); mybj->setObjectName("Bar"); qDebug() << mybj->objectName();});
                              // Memory leak!
                          }
                          {
                              QString testString("Occuppy Stack");
                          }
                          mainTimer.start(100);
                          return appl.exec();
                      }
                      
                      

                      Still working correctly. Notice how the first output of the [=] lambda is Foo. HOW?!

                      "La mort n'est rien, mais vivre vaincu et sans gloire, c'est mourir tous les jours"
                      ~Napoleon Bonaparte

                      On a crusade to banish setIndexWidget() from the holy land of Qt

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                      • VRoninV VRonin

                        second test:

                        #include <QCoreApplication>
                        #include <QDebug>
                        #include <QTimer>
                        #include <QPointer>
                        
                        int main(int argc, char *argv[]) {
                            QCoreApplication appl(argc,argv);
                            QTimer mainTimer;
                            mainTimer.setSingleShot(true);
                            {
                                QPointer<QObject> mybj;
                                mybj =new QObject();
                                mybj->setObjectName("A Message");
                                QObject::connect(&mainTimer,&QTimer::timeout,[&](){qDebug() << mybj->objectName(); mybj->setObjectName("Foo"); qDebug() << mybj->objectName();});
                                QObject::connect(&mainTimer,&QTimer::timeout,[=](){qDebug() << mybj->objectName(); mybj->setObjectName("Bar"); qDebug() << mybj->objectName();});
                                // Memory leak!
                            }
                            {
                                QString testString("Occuppy Stack");
                            }
                            mainTimer.start(100);
                            return appl.exec();
                        }
                        
                        

                        Still working correctly. Notice how the first output of the [=] lambda is Foo. HOW?!

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                        wrote on last edited by DumaPlusPlus
                        #18

                        @VRonin said:

                        second test:

                                QObject::connect(&mainTimer,&QTimer::timeout,[&](){qDebug() << mybj->objectName(); mybj->setObjectName("Foo"); qDebug() << mybj->objectName();});
                                QObject::connect(&mainTimer,&QTimer::timeout,[=](){qDebug() << mybj->objectName(); mybj->setObjectName("Bar"); qDebug() << mybj->objectName();});
                        
                        
                        Still working correctly. Notice how the first output of the [=] lambda is Foo. HOW?!
                        

                        should be that?
                        passing by value copy the pointer so you point to objname with modified name...right?

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                        • DumaPlusPlusD DumaPlusPlus

                          @VRonin said:

                          second test:

                                  QObject::connect(&mainTimer,&QTimer::timeout,[&](){qDebug() << mybj->objectName(); mybj->setObjectName("Foo"); qDebug() << mybj->objectName();});
                                  QObject::connect(&mainTimer,&QTimer::timeout,[=](){qDebug() << mybj->objectName(); mybj->setObjectName("Bar"); qDebug() << mybj->objectName();});
                          
                          
                          Still working correctly. Notice how the first output of the [=] lambda is Foo. HOW?!
                          

                          should be that?
                          passing by value copy the pointer so you point to objname with modified name...right?

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                          VRonin
                          wrote on last edited by VRonin
                          #19

                          @DumaPlusPlus The first lambda should never be executed at the creation of the second one. then when the timer times out I was expecting the first to crash or operate on invalid memory and the second to print

                          A Message
                          Bar
                          

                          While it looks like the lambda with [&] behaves exactly as the one with [=]

                          "La mort n'est rien, mais vivre vaincu et sans gloire, c'est mourir tous les jours"
                          ~Napoleon Bonaparte

                          On a crusade to banish setIndexWidget() from the holy land of Qt

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                          • VRoninV VRonin

                            second test:

                            #include <QCoreApplication>
                            #include <QDebug>
                            #include <QTimer>
                            #include <QPointer>
                            
                            int main(int argc, char *argv[]) {
                                QCoreApplication appl(argc,argv);
                                QTimer mainTimer;
                                mainTimer.setSingleShot(true);
                                {
                                    QPointer<QObject> mybj;
                                    mybj =new QObject();
                                    mybj->setObjectName("A Message");
                                    QObject::connect(&mainTimer,&QTimer::timeout,[&](){qDebug() << mybj->objectName(); mybj->setObjectName("Foo"); qDebug() << mybj->objectName();});
                                    QObject::connect(&mainTimer,&QTimer::timeout,[=](){qDebug() << mybj->objectName(); mybj->setObjectName("Bar"); qDebug() << mybj->objectName();});
                                    // Memory leak!
                                }
                                {
                                    QString testString("Occuppy Stack");
                                }
                                mainTimer.start(100);
                                return appl.exec();
                            }
                            
                            

                            Still working correctly. Notice how the first output of the [=] lambda is Foo. HOW?!

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                            kshegunov
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                            wrote on last edited by kshegunov
                            #20

                            @VRonin

                            If I haven't missed anything. my g++ doesn't open a new stack frame when it sees: { }. So in your examples (which I used) all is flat, thus myString is in main()'s stack frame, which means it doesn't go out of scope (i.e. it's not pop-ed from the stack), which ultimately means that the lambda capture is valid.

                            Here's what I have for main() from your QString test case:

                            # Sets up main()'s stack
                            0x400fc2                   55                                push   %rbp
                            0x400fc3  <+0x0001>        48 89 e5                          mov    %rsp,%rbp
                            ...
                            0x400fcf  <+0x000d>        48 83 ec 78                       sub    $0x78,%rsp
                            ...
                            # mainTimer.setSingleShot(true);
                            0x401010  <+0x004e>        48 8d 45 80                       lea    -0x80(%rbp),%rax
                            0x401014  <+0x0052>        be 01 00 00 00                    mov    $0x1,%esi
                            0x401019  <+0x0057>        48 89 c7                          mov    %rax,%rdi
                            0x40101c  <+0x005a>        e8 59 08 00 00                    callq  0x40187a <QTimer::setSingleShot(bool)>
                            # QString * myString = nullptr;
                            0x401021  <+0x005f>        48 c7 85 78 ff ff ff 00 00 00 00  movq   $0x0,-0x88(%rbp)
                            # No stack frame was opened as one'd expect from a block
                            ...
                            # main()'s stack's being unwound
                            0x40113c  <+0x017a>        48 83 c4 78                       add    $0x78,%rsp
                            ...
                            0x401149  <+0x0187>        5d                                pop    %rbp
                            # And that was all folks, thanks for playing
                            0x40114a  <+0x0188>        c3                                retq         
                            

                            As for the lambda, it doesn't make any checks. It just stores the captured address (the reference) and ultimately dereferences it when it's executed:

                            ...
                            # qDebug() << *myString;
                            0x400ec3  <+0x000d>        48 8b 45 b8           mov    -0x48(%rbp),%rax    # Load QString *& from the base pointer
                            0x400ec7  <+0x0011>        48 8b 00              mov    (%rax),%rax         # Dereference once (strip &)
                            0x400eca  <+0x0014>        48 8b 18              mov    (%rax),%rbx         # Dereference second time i.e. (*myString)
                            

                            So I hope this explains how and why.

                            Kind regards.

                            Read and abide by the Qt Code of Conduct

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                            • kshegunovK kshegunov

                              @VRonin

                              If I haven't missed anything. my g++ doesn't open a new stack frame when it sees: { }. So in your examples (which I used) all is flat, thus myString is in main()'s stack frame, which means it doesn't go out of scope (i.e. it's not pop-ed from the stack), which ultimately means that the lambda capture is valid.

                              Here's what I have for main() from your QString test case:

                              # Sets up main()'s stack
                              0x400fc2                   55                                push   %rbp
                              0x400fc3  <+0x0001>        48 89 e5                          mov    %rsp,%rbp
                              ...
                              0x400fcf  <+0x000d>        48 83 ec 78                       sub    $0x78,%rsp
                              ...
                              # mainTimer.setSingleShot(true);
                              0x401010  <+0x004e>        48 8d 45 80                       lea    -0x80(%rbp),%rax
                              0x401014  <+0x0052>        be 01 00 00 00                    mov    $0x1,%esi
                              0x401019  <+0x0057>        48 89 c7                          mov    %rax,%rdi
                              0x40101c  <+0x005a>        e8 59 08 00 00                    callq  0x40187a <QTimer::setSingleShot(bool)>
                              # QString * myString = nullptr;
                              0x401021  <+0x005f>        48 c7 85 78 ff ff ff 00 00 00 00  movq   $0x0,-0x88(%rbp)
                              # No stack frame was opened as one'd expect from a block
                              ...
                              # main()'s stack's being unwound
                              0x40113c  <+0x017a>        48 83 c4 78                       add    $0x78,%rsp
                              ...
                              0x401149  <+0x0187>        5d                                pop    %rbp
                              # And that was all folks, thanks for playing
                              0x40114a  <+0x0188>        c3                                retq         
                              

                              As for the lambda, it doesn't make any checks. It just stores the captured address (the reference) and ultimately dereferences it when it's executed:

                              ...
                              # qDebug() << *myString;
                              0x400ec3  <+0x000d>        48 8b 45 b8           mov    -0x48(%rbp),%rax    # Load QString *& from the base pointer
                              0x400ec7  <+0x0011>        48 8b 00              mov    (%rax),%rax         # Dereference once (strip &)
                              0x400eca  <+0x0014>        48 8b 18              mov    (%rax),%rbx         # Dereference second time i.e. (*myString)
                              

                              So I hope this explains how and why.

                              Kind regards.

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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #21

                              Thanks @kshegunov now it make sense, it was just the compiler (I use MSVC btw) optimizing.
                              This behaves as expected.

                              #include <QCoreApplication>
                              #include<QDebug>
                              #include <QTimer>
                              
                              void makeConnections(QTimer* mainTimer ){
                                  QString* myString=nullptr;
                                  myString=new QString("A Message");
                                  QObject::connect(mainTimer,&QTimer::timeout,[&](){qDebug() << *myString;});
                                  QObject::connect(mainTimer,&QTimer::timeout,[=](){qDebug() << *myString;});
                              }
                              
                              int main(int argc, char *argv[]) {
                                  QCoreApplication appl(argc,argv);
                                  QTimer mainTimer;
                                  mainTimer.setSingleShot(true);
                                  makeConnections(&mainTimer);
                              
                                  mainTimer.start(100);
                                  return appl.exec();
                              }
                              
                              

                              I marked my previous post where I was wrong and the final answer to the topic is use [=] in the lambda instead of [&]

                              "La mort n'est rien, mais vivre vaincu et sans gloire, c'est mourir tous les jours"
                              ~Napoleon Bonaparte

                              On a crusade to banish setIndexWidget() from the holy land of Qt

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                              • VRoninV VRonin

                                Thanks @kshegunov now it make sense, it was just the compiler (I use MSVC btw) optimizing.
                                This behaves as expected.

                                #include <QCoreApplication>
                                #include<QDebug>
                                #include <QTimer>
                                
                                void makeConnections(QTimer* mainTimer ){
                                    QString* myString=nullptr;
                                    myString=new QString("A Message");
                                    QObject::connect(mainTimer,&QTimer::timeout,[&](){qDebug() << *myString;});
                                    QObject::connect(mainTimer,&QTimer::timeout,[=](){qDebug() << *myString;});
                                }
                                
                                int main(int argc, char *argv[]) {
                                    QCoreApplication appl(argc,argv);
                                    QTimer mainTimer;
                                    mainTimer.setSingleShot(true);
                                    makeConnections(&mainTimer);
                                
                                    mainTimer.start(100);
                                    return appl.exec();
                                }
                                
                                

                                I marked my previous post where I was wrong and the final answer to the topic is use [=] in the lambda instead of [&]

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                                #22

                                @VRonin

                                Thanks @kshegunov now it make sense, it was just the compiler (I use MSVC btw) optimizing.

                                No problem. Yes the compiler was an issue apparently, although that's some strange optimization made. Especially if you take into account we're running in debug mode, two different compilers no less. But even in release mode I'd venture to say one doesn't expect a block to just be ignored ... at least I don't.

                                This behaves as expected.

                                Meaning it crashes at the appropriate place? :)

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                                • kshegunovK kshegunov

                                  @VRonin

                                  Thanks @kshegunov now it make sense, it was just the compiler (I use MSVC btw) optimizing.

                                  No problem. Yes the compiler was an issue apparently, although that's some strange optimization made. Especially if you take into account we're running in debug mode, two different compilers no less. But even in release mode I'd venture to say one doesn't expect a block to just be ignored ... at least I don't.

                                  This behaves as expected.

                                  Meaning it crashes at the appropriate place? :)

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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #23

                                  @kshegunov said:

                                  Meaning it crashes at the appropriate place? :)

                                  Even a crash sometimes is expected behaviour ;)

                                  "La mort n'est rien, mais vivre vaincu et sans gloire, c'est mourir tous les jours"
                                  ~Napoleon Bonaparte

                                  On a crusade to banish setIndexWidget() from the holy land of Qt

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                                    #24

                                    wow very good thread i wish i will be professional like you

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                                    • DumaPlusPlusD DumaPlusPlus

                                      wow very good thread i wish i will be professional like you

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                                      #25

                                      @DumaPlusPlus
                                      It's only matter of experience, so just be patient. And funnily enough currently I don't work as a programmer, so I'm actually falling in the category of amateur, or at least hobbyist. ;)

                                      @jsulm
                                      Out of curiosity, what compiler are you running?

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                                      • kshegunovK kshegunov

                                        @DumaPlusPlus
                                        It's only matter of experience, so just be patient. And funnily enough currently I don't work as a programmer, so I'm actually falling in the category of amateur, or at least hobbyist. ;)

                                        @jsulm
                                        Out of curiosity, what compiler are you running?

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                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #26

                                        @kshegunov MinGW 5.3.0 32bit on Windows 7.

                                        https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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