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  • tomyT tomy

    @mrjj
    Hi,
    So could we have QMainWindow as a subclass of MainWindow without calling its constructor in the constructor of MainWindow?

    By the way, the book says MainWindow as a subclass of QMainWinodw!
    It seems that both are subclasses of each other! :)

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    mrjj
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    wrote on last edited by
    #8

    @tomy
    hi
    well its MainWindow as a subclass of QMainWindow
    The names are so close its sometimes confusing.
    The truth is, if a base class do not do anything in its constructor, nothing bad will happen not calling it.
    Which seems why they didnt bother here for MainWindow

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    • mrjjM mrjj

      @tomy
      hi
      well its MainWindow as a subclass of QMainWindow
      The names are so close its sometimes confusing.
      The truth is, if a base class do not do anything in its constructor, nothing bad will happen not calling it.
      Which seems why they didnt bother here for MainWindow

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      @mrjj
      Hi, thanks, I got it.

      One other question. In page 70 of that book, about context menu, the following is written:
      "A more sophisticated way of providing context menus is to reimplement the QWidget::contextMenuEvent() function,
      create a QMenu widget, populate it with the desired actions, and call exec() on it.
      "

      If I want that sophisticated context menu, I need to reimplement the QWidget::contextMenuEvent() function. I found that here, but how to know its code to be able to change that and use it for the application please?

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      • tomyT tomy

        @mrjj
        Hi, thanks, I got it.

        One other question. In page 70 of that book, about context menu, the following is written:
        "A more sophisticated way of providing context menus is to reimplement the QWidget::contextMenuEvent() function,
        create a QMenu widget, populate it with the desired actions, and call exec() on it.
        "

        If I want that sophisticated context menu, I need to reimplement the QWidget::contextMenuEvent() function. I found that here, but how to know its code to be able to change that and use it for the application please?

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        mrjj
        Lifetime Qt Champion
        wrote on last edited by mrjj
        #10

        Hi
        You would create a new subclass.
        However, it seldom useful for just a context menu and a plain QWidget.
        So where do you want to use the context menu ?

        anyway for pure learning.

        
        class MyWidget : public QWidget
        {
            Q_OBJECT
        public:
            explicit MyWidget(QWidget*parent = nullptr) : QWidget(parent)
            {
        
            }
        protected:
        // here we then override the defualt one we get from base class to have our own.
            virtual void contextMenuEvent(QContextMenuEvent *event) override
            {
                .....make menu....
            }
        };
        
        

        To use it you would either
        create from code
        MyWidget *wid=new MyWidget(this)
        and insert into layout / form.

        or use Creators promotion feature to allow to use in Designer.
        https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/designer-using-custom-widgets.html

        Note that we here inherit from QWidget
        However, it could have been from any widget. Like QPushButton etc.

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        • mrjjM mrjj

          Hi
          You would create a new subclass.
          However, it seldom useful for just a context menu and a plain QWidget.
          So where do you want to use the context menu ?

          anyway for pure learning.

          
          class MyWidget : public QWidget
          {
              Q_OBJECT
          public:
              explicit MyWidget(QWidget*parent = nullptr) : QWidget(parent)
              {
          
              }
          protected:
          // here we then override the defualt one we get from base class to have our own.
              virtual void contextMenuEvent(QContextMenuEvent *event) override
              {
                  .....make menu....
              }
          };
          
          

          To use it you would either
          create from code
          MyWidget *wid=new MyWidget(this)
          and insert into layout / form.

          or use Creators promotion feature to allow to use in Designer.
          https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/designer-using-custom-widgets.html

          Note that we here inherit from QWidget
          However, it could have been from any widget. Like QPushButton etc.

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          wrote on last edited by
          #11

          @mrjj
          Hi, thanks.

          I forgot to say that I declared it inside the protected modifier area of MainWindow this way:

          ...
          protected:
              void closeEvent(QCloseEvent*); // Previousely added
              void contextMenuEvent(QContextMenuEvent*); // I, too, added this one
          ...
          

          and it's pure code.

          I want to use it into the spreadsheet program we talked about, to manipulate the code to have a better context menu for that program.
          One question as well, what will we achieve by re-implementing that virtual protected method please?

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          • tomyT tomy

            @mrjj
            Hi, thanks.

            I forgot to say that I declared it inside the protected modifier area of MainWindow this way:

            ...
            protected:
                void closeEvent(QCloseEvent*); // Previousely added
                void contextMenuEvent(QContextMenuEvent*); // I, too, added this one
            ...
            

            and it's pure code.

            I want to use it into the spreadsheet program we talked about, to manipulate the code to have a better context menu for that program.
            One question as well, what will we achieve by re-implementing that virtual protected method please?

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            mrjj
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            wrote on last edited by mrjj
            #12

            Hi
            If you add contextMenuEvent to MainWindow, then you need
            to right click the actual MainWindow, to trigger it.
            It wont be triggered by right clicking on the spreadSheet widget.
            So not sure having them in MainWindow is what you want ?

            • One question as well, what will we achieve by re-implementing that virtual protected method please?

            Well it allows us to override a default contextMenuEvent so for any widget that can actually show a menu already( like QlineEdit)
            it allows to to alter what should be shown ( a new menu )
            Or it allows us to add a menu to a QWidget that dont already have such menu.

            BUT
            Often the signal is used instead (of the Event ) as that requires no subclass.
            https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qwidget.html#customContextMenuRequested
            That you can just connect to and do get the same effect without subclassing.

            However, WHAT widget do you want to add contextMenu to ?
            The spreadsheet?

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            • mrjjM mrjj

              Hi
              If you add contextMenuEvent to MainWindow, then you need
              to right click the actual MainWindow, to trigger it.
              It wont be triggered by right clicking on the spreadSheet widget.
              So not sure having them in MainWindow is what you want ?

              • One question as well, what will we achieve by re-implementing that virtual protected method please?

              Well it allows us to override a default contextMenuEvent so for any widget that can actually show a menu already( like QlineEdit)
              it allows to to alter what should be shown ( a new menu )
              Or it allows us to add a menu to a QWidget that dont already have such menu.

              BUT
              Often the signal is used instead (of the Event ) as that requires no subclass.
              https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qwidget.html#customContextMenuRequested
              That you can just connect to and do get the same effect without subclassing.

              However, WHAT widget do you want to add contextMenu to ?
              The spreadsheet?

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              wrote on last edited by
              #13

              @mrjj hi,

              The spreadsheet?

              Yes. The area occupied by the cells. It actually will be used for cells.

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              • tomyT tomy

                @mrjj hi,

                The spreadsheet?

                Yes. The area occupied by the cells. It actually will be used for cells.

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                mrjj
                Lifetime Qt Champion
                wrote on last edited by
                #14

                @tomy

                Hi I would use the SIGNAL then.
                I assume it has not right click menu already?
                To use it, you enable it with
                ui->spreadsheet->setContextMenuPolicy(Qt::CustomContextMenu);
                (ui->spreadsheet might not be actual name ;)

                then connect signal to a slot where you build and exec() the menu.

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                • mrjjM mrjj

                  @tomy

                  Hi I would use the SIGNAL then.
                  I assume it has not right click menu already?
                  To use it, you enable it with
                  ui->spreadsheet->setContextMenuPolicy(Qt::CustomContextMenu);
                  (ui->spreadsheet might not be actual name ;)

                  then connect signal to a slot where you build and exec() the menu.

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                  tomy
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #15

                  @mrjj

                  I assume it has not right click menu already?

                  It has. The author said: "A more sophisticated way of providing context menus is to reimplement the QWidget::contextMenuEvent() function,
                  create a QMenu widget, populate it with the desired actions, and call exec() on it.", so I was motivated to re-implement that method to probably have a nicer or more advanced context menu for the cells!
                  By the way, I like to use pure code only (no design mode). :)

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                  • tomyT tomy

                    @mrjj

                    I assume it has not right click menu already?

                    It has. The author said: "A more sophisticated way of providing context menus is to reimplement the QWidget::contextMenuEvent() function,
                    create a QMenu widget, populate it with the desired actions, and call exec() on it.", so I was motivated to re-implement that method to probably have a nicer or more advanced context menu for the cells!
                    By the way, I like to use pure code only (no design mode). :)

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                    mrjj
                    Lifetime Qt Champion
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #16

                    @tomy
                    Well im not sure what he meant by that since its just a QMenu in any case.

                    So what does it have now ?

                    Im not sure why using event would be more sophisticated. Its just other way
                    of having a context menu.

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                    • mrjjM mrjj

                      @tomy
                      Well im not sure what he meant by that since its just a QMenu in any case.

                      So what does it have now ?

                      Im not sure why using event would be more sophisticated. Its just other way
                      of having a context menu.

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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #17

                      @mrjj

                      So what does it have now ?

                      this:

                      0_1549822272949_Capture.PNG

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                      • tomyT tomy

                        @mrjj

                        So what does it have now ?

                        this:

                        0_1549822272949_Capture.PNG

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                        mrjj
                        Lifetime Qt Champion
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #18

                        @tomy
                        Hi
                        Is that build from code or a default one ?
                        I mean is there code to build it and show it ?

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                        • mrjjM mrjj

                          @tomy
                          Hi
                          Is that build from code or a default one ?
                          I mean is there code to build it and show it ?

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                          tomy
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #19

                          @mrjj Hi,
                          Yes. The book also shows the code for that.
                          I know I can add more options to that, for instance, to have five buttons in the context menu rather than that three ones. But by the sentence the author said, I though there should be another way to have a more advanced context menu by re-implementing the virtual protected method when mentioned earlier.

                          By the way, don't you have that book?

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                          • tomyT tomy

                            @mrjj Hi,
                            Yes. The book also shows the code for that.
                            I know I can add more options to that, for instance, to have five buttons in the context menu rather than that three ones. But by the sentence the author said, I though there should be another way to have a more advanced context menu by re-implementing the virtual protected method when mentioned earlier.

                            By the way, don't you have that book?

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                            mrjj
                            Lifetime Qt Champion
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #20

                            @tomy
                            Hi
                            Well the menu already have both shortcut and icon so not sure what else could be added.
                            There is no "more advanced" menu possible by overwriting contextMenuEvent as
                            you can just 100% the same just altering
                            void MainWindow::createActions()
                            to show what you want.

                            yes, i have it as PDF. did read most of it way back.

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                            • mrjjM mrjj

                              @tomy
                              Hi
                              Well the menu already have both shortcut and icon so not sure what else could be added.
                              There is no "more advanced" menu possible by overwriting contextMenuEvent as
                              you can just 100% the same just altering
                              void MainWindow::createActions()
                              to show what you want.

                              yes, i have it as PDF. did read most of it way back.

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                              tomy
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #21

                              @mrjj

                              Thank you very much. I was too much stuck in a QML program's problem, sorry for the delay.

                              If you run the program, even by the latest version of Qt Creator and on a sophisticated and fancy operating system like Windows 10, you see the program still looks old, as though we are in 2000 using it.
                              Is it because of the code? If so, what parts can be updated, please?

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                              • tomyT tomy

                                @mrjj

                                Thank you very much. I was too much stuck in a QML program's problem, sorry for the delay.

                                If you run the program, even by the latest version of Qt Creator and on a sophisticated and fancy operating system like Windows 10, you see the program still looks old, as though we are in 2000 using it.
                                Is it because of the code? If so, what parts can be updated, please?

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                                Lifetime Qt Champion
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #22

                                @tomy
                                Hi
                                Nope its just how the QWidgets look.
                                If you change the icons to flat style,
                                it will look more "modern"

                                You could use something like
                                https://github.com/laserpants/qt-material-widgets
                                if you want to go all in for "modern" look.

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                                • tomyT tomy

                                  @mrjj

                                  Thank you very much. I was too much stuck in a QML program's problem, sorry for the delay.

                                  If you run the program, even by the latest version of Qt Creator and on a sophisticated and fancy operating system like Windows 10, you see the program still looks old, as though we are in 2000 using it.
                                  Is it because of the code? If so, what parts can be updated, please?

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                                  jsulm
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                                  #23

                                  @tomy Do you use Qt4 or Qt5?

                                  https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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                                  • jsulmJ jsulm

                                    @tomy Do you use Qt4 or Qt5?

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                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #24

                                    @jsulm
                                    It's 5.12. The latest version I think.

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                                    • mrjjM mrjj

                                      @tomy
                                      hi
                                      well its MainWindow as a subclass of QMainWindow
                                      The names are so close its sometimes confusing.
                                      The truth is, if a base class do not do anything in its constructor, nothing bad will happen not calling it.
                                      Which seems why they didnt bother here for MainWindow

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                                      wrote on last edited by kshegunov
                                      #25

                                      @mrjj said in Access and inheritance:

                                      The truth is, if a base class do not do anything in its constructor, nothing bad will happen not calling it.

                                      Just for completeness:
                                      If the base class has a default constructor, and it's not called explicitly in the derived class' constructor the compiler is going to generate code to call it implicitly. Omitting it in the initializer list means nothing here, as QMainWindow() is going to be called either way. If the base class does not have a default constructor, and there's no call to the parent's constructor then this is going to generate a compile error, as the compiler has no idea what to do.

                                      Read and abide by the Qt Code of Conduct

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                                      • kshegunovK kshegunov

                                        @mrjj said in Access and inheritance:

                                        The truth is, if a base class do not do anything in its constructor, nothing bad will happen not calling it.

                                        Just for completeness:
                                        If the base class has a default constructor, and it's not called explicitly in the derived class' constructor the compiler is going to generate code to call it implicitly. Omitting it in the initializer list means nothing here, as QMainWindow() is going to be called either way. If the base class does not have a default constructor, and there's no call to the parent's constructor then this is going to generate a compile error, as the compiler has no idea what to do.

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                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #26

                                        @kshegunov
                                        Hi,

                                        If the base class has a default constructor, and it's not called explicitly in the derived class' constructor the compiler is going to generate code to call it implicitly. Omitting it in the initializer list means nothing here, as QMainWindow() is going to be called either way.

                                        Is it true for the Qt Creator compiler too? (I think so)

                                        If the base class does not have a default constructor, and there's no call to the parent's constructor then this is going to generate a compile error, as the compiler has no idea what to do.

                                        Can we conclude this way that, when the base class doesn't have a constructor, in either way, whether the subclass calls the parent's constructor (!) or it doesn't, we will get an error?

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                                        • tomyT tomy

                                          @kshegunov
                                          Hi,

                                          If the base class has a default constructor, and it's not called explicitly in the derived class' constructor the compiler is going to generate code to call it implicitly. Omitting it in the initializer list means nothing here, as QMainWindow() is going to be called either way.

                                          Is it true for the Qt Creator compiler too? (I think so)

                                          If the base class does not have a default constructor, and there's no call to the parent's constructor then this is going to generate a compile error, as the compiler has no idea what to do.

                                          Can we conclude this way that, when the base class doesn't have a constructor, in either way, whether the subclass calls the parent's constructor (!) or it doesn't, we will get an error?

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                                          wrote on last edited by
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                                          @tomy said in Access and inheritance:

                                          Is it true for the Qt Creator compiler too? (I think so)

                                          Qt Creator is not a compiler, it uses some compiler (whatever you've configured), but yes, it's true for all compiler, as this is standard (and required) behaviour for C++.

                                          Can we conclude this way that, when the base class doesn't have a constructor, in either way, whether the subclass calls the parent's constructor (!) or it doesn't, we will get an error?

                                          No. Not defining a class constructor means the compiler generates a default one for you (unless specifically told otherwise). If you haven't defined a constructor in the base class, then the derived class is going to implicitly call the automatically generated one.

                                          Read and abide by the Qt Code of Conduct

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