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  • SPlattenS Offline
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    wrote on last edited by SPlatten
    #13

    @SGaist, I'm trying to develop a desktop application that ultimately can be run on any OS supported by Qt, including Windows, iOS and Linux.

    Kind Regards,
    Sy

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      SGaist
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      #14

      You have to take into account that iOS and Android don't offer the same kind of window management as the desktop OSs and that's nothing Qt can do about. For example, on mobile OSs you usually have one full screen application where you can have some dialogs but it's not comparable to what Linux, macOS or others have for you through e.g. Xorg or wayland.

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        #15

        Sorry, I forgot to add OSX to the list and thats what my tests have been on my MacBook Pro running OSX High Sierra version 10.13.6

        I accept what you are saying with respect to Android and iOS, but the isn't one of those.

        Please download the same example code as posted in the link by mrjj, report back with OS version and Qt version if you find anything different...

        Kind Regards,
        Sy

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        • SPlattenS SPlatten

          Sorry, I forgot to add OSX to the list and thats what my tests have been on my MacBook Pro running OSX High Sierra version 10.13.6

          I accept what you are saying with respect to Android and iOS, but the isn't one of those.

          Please download the same example code as posted in the link by mrjj, report back with OS version and Qt version if you find anything different...

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          mrjj
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          wrote on last edited by
          #16

          @SPlatten
          Hi
          Sorry should have mentioned it.
          The samples are directly available in Creator with a normal install.
          alt text

          Sadly i cant help testing as i have no access to any Macs.

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            #17

            The point is Qt is supposed to be multi-platform, I don't have a Windows PC or Linux, only Mac's and clearly it doesn't appear to work.

            Kind Regards,
            Sy

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            • SPlattenS SPlatten

              The point is Qt is supposed to be multi-platform, I don't have a Windows PC or Linux, only Mac's and clearly it doesn't appear to work.

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              mrjj
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              wrote on last edited by mrjj
              #18

              @SPlatten
              Well not all hints are supported on all platforms.
              The name is often a give away
              like Qt::MSWindowsFixedSizeDialogHint
              Note the MS in front.
              or like X11BypassWindowManagerHint which is for linux / X11
              Its mention here.
              http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qt.html#WindowType-enum

              The MSWindowsFixedSizeDialogHint do work on Windows.
              alt text

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                #19

                Sorry, for a product as mature as Qt this isn't what I would expect, I know this kind of thing is perfectly possible, just Qt doesn't currently work correctly.

                Kind Regards,
                Sy

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                • SPlattenS SPlatten

                  Sorry, for a product as mature as Qt this isn't what I would expect, I know this kind of thing is perfectly possible, just Qt doesn't currently work correctly.

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                  mrjj
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                  #20

                  @SPlatten
                  Well it depends on platform and the Windows manger in use.
                  Some combinations are not possible in Windows either.
                  Also some windows mangers on linux also ignore certain Hints.
                  You are aware that Qt does not draw the decorations by its self ?
                  Its handled by the OS and might not offer any way to apply it
                  and Qt would have to resort to custom drawn decorations.

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                  • SPlattenS Offline
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                    wrote on last edited by SPlatten
                    #21

                    The fact that it can be done using Xcode means its very possible go do, if Qt didn't rush out quite so many versions, the quality control would be better and the releases more functional.

                    I'm a big fan of Qt and have used licensed versions of Qt for defence applications, licenses are not cheap and considering the money involved i would be a seriously disappointed by this show stopping lack of functionality.

                    In less than 2 years I've seen Qt go from 5.1 to 5.11 and still going, releases seem to come out very frequently, which is good in one sense but at what cost?

                    Kind Regards,
                    Sy

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                    • SPlattenS SPlatten

                      The fact that it can be done using Xcode means its very possible go do, if Qt didn't rush out quite so many versions, the quality control would be better and the releases more functional.

                      I'm a big fan of Qt and have used licensed versions of Qt for defence applications, licenses are not cheap and considering the money involved i would be a seriously disappointed by this show stopping lack of functionality.

                      In less than 2 years I've seen Qt go from 5.1 to 5.11 and still going, releases seem to come out very frequently, which is good in one sense but at what cost?

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                      #22

                      Well i can relate to that. Personally i would rather have more
                      QWidgets/Desktop than 3D and QML/Mobile but
                      the commercial side of Qt must try to focus on the marked
                      trends.

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                        #23

                        Qt 5.1 was released 5 years ago in 2013.

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                          #24

                          @SGaist , ok, still a lot of releases in a short space of time, the functionality I'm trying to use is very fundamental...shouldn't that be addressed?

                          Kind Regards,
                          Sy

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                          • SPlattenS SPlatten

                            @SGaist , ok, still a lot of releases in a short space of time, the functionality I'm trying to use is very fundamental...shouldn't that be addressed?

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                            @SPlatten As @mrjj said window decorations (including the close/minimize buttons) are NOT handled by Qt. Those are handled by the OS. And different OSs are different here (even different window managers on Linux differ here). You can still do this using native APIs.
                            If you think this should be part of Qt you can file a change request.

                            https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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                              #26

                              @jsulm, thank you, how do I submit a change request?

                              Kind Regards,
                              Sy

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                              • SPlattenS SPlatten

                                @jsulm, thank you, how do I submit a change request?

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                                #27

                                @SPlatten See https://doc.qt.io/QtSafeRenderer/qtsr-bugs-change-requests.html

                                https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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                                  #28

                                  Thank you, I will complete this now....

                                  Done, https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-71814

                                  Kind Regards,
                                  Sy

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                                    #29

                                    @jsulm , if you can see my first posts I am OR'g in Qt::CustomizeWindowHint with each bit. I will try the WindowFlags example as I cannot guarantee that I did the same when testing with that.

                                    Kind Regards,
                                    Sy

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                                      #30

                                      There is sum good news and some strange findings, I am running the WindowsFlags example on my macBook Pro.

                                      The setup is as follows, from the Type radio buttons, the Window is checked. From the Hints checkboxes, Customize Window is checked.

                                      With no other checkboxes the window appears with no title and no widgets, it isn't resizable.

                                      With 'Window minimize button' checked, the title is visible and only the minimize widget is visible.

                                      If I then enable 'Window maximise button', the maximise widget is enabled along with the minimise widget.

                                      If I enable 'Window close button', the close widget is enabled

                                      Toggling 'Window Title', 'Frameless window', or 'Window shade button' have no effect.

                                      Kind Regards,
                                      Sy

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