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  • mrjjM Offline
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    mrjj
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    wrote on last edited by
    #9

    Hi
    If i may suggest a different approach.
    Try running
    http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtwidgets-widgets-windowflags-example.html
    on your platform(s) and see what the combinations gives/shows.

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    • SPlattenS Offline
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      wrote on last edited by
      #10

      @mrjj , Thank you, I'll try this tonight, 7:40 am now, I'm not back at my system until 18:00 tonight.

      Kind Regards,
      Sy

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      • SPlattenS Offline
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        wrote on last edited by SPlatten
        #11

        @mrjj, I downloaded all the files and built the demo, just to recap, the version of OSX I'm running on my macBook Pro is High Sierra version 10.13.6.

        The version of Qt is 5.11.2 (Clang 8.0 (Apple) 64 bit). I would love to say the application worked and has solved all my problems, I was planning to debug it and then replicate how it works, sadly its no better than my code.

        This is what I've done, launch the application, the default settings are:

        Radio buttons, Window selected and Preview child window displayed.
        All checkboxes unchecked.

        Here is what happens:

        MS Windows fixed size dialog
        unchecked, I can resize the preview window
        checked, no effect on preview window, I can still do everything I could without it checked

        Frameless window
        unchecked, window title and widgets visible
        checked, window title and widgets removed

        No drop shadow
        unchecked, window has drop shadow
        checked, window doesn't have drop shadow

        Window title, unchecked or checked, no effect
        Window system menu, unchecked or checked, no effect
        Customize window, seems to have same effect as Frameless window
        Window minimize button, unchecked or checked, no effect
        Window maximise button, unchecked or checked, no effect
        Window close button, unchecked or checked, no effect
        Window context help button, unchecked or checked, no effect
        Window shade button, unchecked or checked, no effect

        Window stays on top
        unchecked, window doesn't stay on top
        checked, window stays on top

        Window stays on bottom, unchecked or checked, no effect

        Overall very disappointing it seems that most of the hints have no effect at all, surely this is a bug that needs attention ?

        Kind Regards,
        Sy

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        • SGaistS Offline
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          SGaist
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          #12

          Just to be sure we are on the same page: are you trying to develop a desktop like application for iOS ?

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          Please read the Qt Code of Conduct - https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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          • SPlattenS Offline
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            wrote on last edited by SPlatten
            #13

            @SGaist, I'm trying to develop a desktop application that ultimately can be run on any OS supported by Qt, including Windows, iOS and Linux.

            Kind Regards,
            Sy

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              SGaist
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              #14

              You have to take into account that iOS and Android don't offer the same kind of window management as the desktop OSs and that's nothing Qt can do about. For example, on mobile OSs you usually have one full screen application where you can have some dialogs but it's not comparable to what Linux, macOS or others have for you through e.g. Xorg or wayland.

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              • SPlattenS Offline
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                wrote on last edited by SPlatten
                #15

                Sorry, I forgot to add OSX to the list and thats what my tests have been on my MacBook Pro running OSX High Sierra version 10.13.6

                I accept what you are saying with respect to Android and iOS, but the isn't one of those.

                Please download the same example code as posted in the link by mrjj, report back with OS version and Qt version if you find anything different...

                Kind Regards,
                Sy

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                • SPlattenS SPlatten

                  Sorry, I forgot to add OSX to the list and thats what my tests have been on my MacBook Pro running OSX High Sierra version 10.13.6

                  I accept what you are saying with respect to Android and iOS, but the isn't one of those.

                  Please download the same example code as posted in the link by mrjj, report back with OS version and Qt version if you find anything different...

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                  mrjj
                  Lifetime Qt Champion
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #16

                  @SPlatten
                  Hi
                  Sorry should have mentioned it.
                  The samples are directly available in Creator with a normal install.
                  alt text

                  Sadly i cant help testing as i have no access to any Macs.

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                  • SPlattenS Offline
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                    #17

                    The point is Qt is supposed to be multi-platform, I don't have a Windows PC or Linux, only Mac's and clearly it doesn't appear to work.

                    Kind Regards,
                    Sy

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                    • SPlattenS SPlatten

                      The point is Qt is supposed to be multi-platform, I don't have a Windows PC or Linux, only Mac's and clearly it doesn't appear to work.

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                      mrjj
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                      wrote on last edited by mrjj
                      #18

                      @SPlatten
                      Well not all hints are supported on all platforms.
                      The name is often a give away
                      like Qt::MSWindowsFixedSizeDialogHint
                      Note the MS in front.
                      or like X11BypassWindowManagerHint which is for linux / X11
                      Its mention here.
                      http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qt.html#WindowType-enum

                      The MSWindowsFixedSizeDialogHint do work on Windows.
                      alt text

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                      • SPlattenS Offline
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                        #19

                        Sorry, for a product as mature as Qt this isn't what I would expect, I know this kind of thing is perfectly possible, just Qt doesn't currently work correctly.

                        Kind Regards,
                        Sy

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                        • SPlattenS SPlatten

                          Sorry, for a product as mature as Qt this isn't what I would expect, I know this kind of thing is perfectly possible, just Qt doesn't currently work correctly.

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                          mrjj
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                          @SPlatten
                          Well it depends on platform and the Windows manger in use.
                          Some combinations are not possible in Windows either.
                          Also some windows mangers on linux also ignore certain Hints.
                          You are aware that Qt does not draw the decorations by its self ?
                          Its handled by the OS and might not offer any way to apply it
                          and Qt would have to resort to custom drawn decorations.

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                            wrote on last edited by SPlatten
                            #21

                            The fact that it can be done using Xcode means its very possible go do, if Qt didn't rush out quite so many versions, the quality control would be better and the releases more functional.

                            I'm a big fan of Qt and have used licensed versions of Qt for defence applications, licenses are not cheap and considering the money involved i would be a seriously disappointed by this show stopping lack of functionality.

                            In less than 2 years I've seen Qt go from 5.1 to 5.11 and still going, releases seem to come out very frequently, which is good in one sense but at what cost?

                            Kind Regards,
                            Sy

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                            • SPlattenS SPlatten

                              The fact that it can be done using Xcode means its very possible go do, if Qt didn't rush out quite so many versions, the quality control would be better and the releases more functional.

                              I'm a big fan of Qt and have used licensed versions of Qt for defence applications, licenses are not cheap and considering the money involved i would be a seriously disappointed by this show stopping lack of functionality.

                              In less than 2 years I've seen Qt go from 5.1 to 5.11 and still going, releases seem to come out very frequently, which is good in one sense but at what cost?

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                              mrjj
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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #22

                              Well i can relate to that. Personally i would rather have more
                              QWidgets/Desktop than 3D and QML/Mobile but
                              the commercial side of Qt must try to focus on the marked
                              trends.

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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #23

                                Qt 5.1 was released 5 years ago in 2013.

                                Interested in AI ? www.idiap.ch
                                Please read the Qt Code of Conduct - https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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                                • SPlattenS Offline
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                                  #24

                                  @SGaist , ok, still a lot of releases in a short space of time, the functionality I'm trying to use is very fundamental...shouldn't that be addressed?

                                  Kind Regards,
                                  Sy

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                                  • SPlattenS SPlatten

                                    @SGaist , ok, still a lot of releases in a short space of time, the functionality I'm trying to use is very fundamental...shouldn't that be addressed?

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                                    jsulm
                                    Lifetime Qt Champion
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #25

                                    @SPlatten As @mrjj said window decorations (including the close/minimize buttons) are NOT handled by Qt. Those are handled by the OS. And different OSs are different here (even different window managers on Linux differ here). You can still do this using native APIs.
                                    If you think this should be part of Qt you can file a change request.

                                    https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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                                      #26

                                      @jsulm, thank you, how do I submit a change request?

                                      Kind Regards,
                                      Sy

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                                      • SPlattenS SPlatten

                                        @jsulm, thank you, how do I submit a change request?

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                                        jsulm
                                        Lifetime Qt Champion
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #27

                                        @SPlatten See https://doc.qt.io/QtSafeRenderer/qtsr-bugs-change-requests.html

                                        https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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                                          wrote on last edited by SPlatten
                                          #28

                                          Thank you, I will complete this now....

                                          Done, https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-71814

                                          Kind Regards,
                                          Sy

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