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    @AndreaFurlani said in App for bluetooth scanning:

    The app scan for devices to connect and I can choose the box (easy part, lot of examples in Qt);
    I am not sure what you call "the box" .
    I do not want to be pedantic - but IMHO "home brew " terminology can became unnecessary issue in the long run.
    During my , still ongoing , development I found that it is helpful to call "local (bluetooth) device " the one connected to your controller and "remote (bluetooth) device ".
    I have found that "client /server" is little misleading when "two way communication" is involved , so does "home ".

    Again - not that important when it is all "under one roof " .

    I am not sure that monitoring the bluetooth "raw data" is best way to limit the function of the "remote device". But I came from "telecommunication background " and I always view the communication payload as "transparent ". In my case - I cannot "key-up" the remote transmitter device so I won't even attempt to send anything close to such command.

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      Thanks for the clear picture.

      Can you explain what you were thinking to do with regards to the use of signals ?

      It seems that you have a pretty well defined API so I think you'll have a controller that will be responsible for the communication with the "hub" device. Is it so ?

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      @SGaist Since I'm quite new in Qt and specially in bluetooth, I have no idea on how my app can ask to the box for the list of devices, so my idea was like:

      1- the app send a request signal to the box
      2- the box answer back by sending a list containing all the devices connected
      3- once the user has selected what to do with a device, the app send back a variable containing the device and the action to perform

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        @SGaist Since I'm quite new in Qt and specially in bluetooth, I have no idea on how my app can ask to the box for the list of devices, so my idea was like:

        1- the app send a request signal to the box
        2- the box answer back by sending a list containing all the devices connected
        3- once the user has selected what to do with a device, the app send back a variable containing the device and the action to perform

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        @AndreaFurlani said in App for bluetooth scanning:

        @SGaist Since I'm quite new in Qt and specially in bluetooth, I have no idea on how my app can ask to the box for the list of devices, so my idea was like:

        1- the app send a request signal to the box
        2- the box answer back by sending a list containing all the devices connected
        3- once the user has selected what to do with a device, the app send back a variable containing the device and the action to perform

        OK, I am still missing something here .
        Again , from my background :
        in general - "communication" has three basic parts and for simplicity it is defined as communication in one direction only.

        sender -> communication media ->receiver
        or
        source communication media sink / load

        Where is your "box" in this scheme ? Does look like this ?

        sender communication media (bluetooth) "receiver BOX sender " communication media ( actual media ?) receiver

        where "BOX sender" is actually multiple senders ?

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          SGaist
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          Your box needs to have a protocol established.

          See the exchanging data between devices part of the Bluetooth chapter in Qt's documentation.

          You'll then have to establish a clear protocol for your "service".

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          Please read the Qt Code of Conduct - https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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          • SGaistS SGaist

            Your box needs to have a protocol established.

            See the exchanging data between devices part of the Bluetooth chapter in Qt's documentation.

            You'll then have to establish a clear protocol for your "service".

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            @SGaist said in App for bluetooth scanning:

            Your box needs to have a protocol established.

            See the exchanging data between devices part of the Bluetooth chapter in Qt's documentation.

            You'll then have to establish a clear protocol for your "service".

            Very helpful post .
            Since I started by using btscanner example I was wondering why my "remote bluetooth device " is "identified as "SPP" . Now I have an answer.
            After I get this "inquiry" mess cleaned - up my next step is indeed using "chat "...

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            • SGaistS SGaist

              Your box needs to have a protocol established.

              See the exchanging data between devices part of the Bluetooth chapter in Qt's documentation.

              You'll then have to establish a clear protocol for your "service".

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              @SGaist Thank you very much. I'll try to read it and make some tries.

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                Hello again, I returned Here since I'm still stuck. In this moment I'm trying to create a new bluetooth service (in the box code), where I'll ask for creating an retrieve a list of all connected devices (and I still have not idea on how to do it, I saw this in the documentation, maybe could be useful).
                So in this way I can create another service (on the app code) where once retrieved the list will associate to a device a command (and again I still have not idea on how to do it) and send it back to the box to execute it.
                Any idea on how I can do it?
                Thank you again for all the help.

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                  Something is not clear, what will run on that box ?

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                  Please read the Qt Code of Conduct - https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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                  • A AndreaFurlani

                    Hello again, I returned Here since I'm still stuck. In this moment I'm trying to create a new bluetooth service (in the box code), where I'll ask for creating an retrieve a list of all connected devices (and I still have not idea on how to do it, I saw this in the documentation, maybe could be useful).
                    So in this way I can create another service (on the app code) where once retrieved the list will associate to a device a command (and again I still have not idea on how to do it) and send it back to the box to execute it.
                    Any idea on how I can do it?
                    Thank you again for all the help.

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                    @AndreaFurlani I would suggest to take a look at examples. Start with "qtconnectivity" - btscanner.
                    It does the basics - scans for nearby bluetooth devices etc.
                    However it is scarcely documented - in code - and assumes some knowledge about bluetooth.
                    From my experience - do not assume that your "local bluetooth device " is enabled to be used to scan for "remote bluetooth devices".
                    I have two with different dongles with different "class of service" and the scan results are NOT the same.

                    Same for "remote bluetooth device" - my powered "remote device " with serial USB to bluetooth adapter" can be "found" , my powered remote "boom box" has to be activated to be found.
                    Beware of running active operating system "bluetooth manager" software - it actually over-rides , takes precedence, of SOME of your code.

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                    • SGaistS SGaist

                      Something is not clear, what will run on that box ?

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                      @SGaist The box is connected to some lights and sensors via zigbee or bluetooth. I need a list of all the connected devices to the box

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                        @AndreaFurlani I would suggest to take a look at examples. Start with "qtconnectivity" - btscanner.
                        It does the basics - scans for nearby bluetooth devices etc.
                        However it is scarcely documented - in code - and assumes some knowledge about bluetooth.
                        From my experience - do not assume that your "local bluetooth device " is enabled to be used to scan for "remote bluetooth devices".
                        I have two with different dongles with different "class of service" and the scan results are NOT the same.

                        Same for "remote bluetooth device" - my powered "remote device " with serial USB to bluetooth adapter" can be "found" , my powered remote "boom box" has to be activated to be found.
                        Beware of running active operating system "bluetooth manager" software - it actually over-rides , takes precedence, of SOME of your code.

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                        @AnneRanch thank you for the answer. I already watched all the bluetooth examples in Qt creator but no one of them is useful to understand how to create a new service and in particular how to do the things I need.

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                          @AnneRanch thank you for the answer. I already watched all the bluetooth examples in Qt creator but no one of them is useful to understand how to create a new service and in particular how to do the things I need.

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                          @AndreaFurlani said in App for bluetooth scanning:

                          how to create a new service

                          Since bluetooth devices have "class of service" be careful using the term.
                          I am still unclear about your overall task . I think I asked for simple hardware picture before .
                          Let me make analogy with my project
                          local bt device (PC) -> bluetooth media communication path -> remote bt device (radio )

                          one on my "services" would be - set the radio frequency

                          so "my box - radio " would turn on correct frequency and display it on build-in LCD

                          Are you attempting to do similar tasks via your box ?

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                            @SGaist The box is connected to some lights and sensors via zigbee or bluetooth. I need a list of all the connected devices to the box

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                            @AndreaFurlani said in App for bluetooth scanning:

                            @SGaist The box is connected to some lights and sensors via zigbee or bluetooth. I need a list of all the connected devices to the box

                            Hence my question what software runs on that box ?

                            Interested in AI ? www.idiap.ch
                            Please read the Qt Code of Conduct - https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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                              Hello I'm back again. I made some progress in writing my code. Now the box starts the advertising without problem.
                              Here's the code:

                              void bluetoothDevice::start(bool debugMode, bool protocolDebug)
                              {
                                  //Personalized Service for connected bluetooth devices list
                              
                                  static const QLatin1String serviceUuid("11223344-5566-7788-99aa-bbccddeeff00");
                                  //static const QLatin1String writeListUuid("11223344-5566-7788-99aa-bbccddeeff11");
                                  static const QLatin1String readListUuid("11223344-5566-7788-99aa-bbccddeeff11");
                              
                                  // [Advertising Data]
                                      QLowEnergyAdvertisingData advertisingData;
                                      advertisingData.setDiscoverability(QLowEnergyAdvertisingData::DiscoverabilityGeneral);
                                      advertisingData.setIncludePowerLevel(true);
                                      advertisingData.setLocalName("BOX");
                                      advertisingData.setServices(QList<QBluetoothUuid>() << QBluetoothUuid(serviceUuid));
                              
                                  // [Service Data]
                                      QLowEnergyCharacteristicData readList;
                              
                                      readList.setUuid(QBluetoothUuid(readListUuid));
                                      readList.setProperties(QLowEnergyCharacteristic::Read);
                                      const QLowEnergyDescriptorData clientConfig(QBluetoothUuid::CharacteristicUserDescription,QByteArray(2, 0));
                                      readList.addDescriptor(clientConfig);
                              
                              
                                      //writeList.setUuid(QBluetoothUuid(writeListUuid));
                                      //writeList.setProperties(QLowEnergyCharacteristic::Write);
                              
                              
                                      QLowEnergyServiceData serviceData;
                                      serviceData.setType(QLowEnergyServiceData::ServiceTypePrimary);
                                      serviceData.setUuid(QBluetoothUuid(serviceUuid));
                                      serviceData.addCharacteristic(readList);
                                      //serviceData.addCharacteristic(writeList);
                              
                              
                                  // [Start Advertising]
                              
                                      leController.reset(QLowEnergyController::createPeripheral());
                                      service_list.reset(leController->addService(serviceData));
                                      leController->startAdvertising(QLowEnergyAdvertisingParameters(), advertisingData,advertisingData);
                              
                              
                                  qCDebug(BLELog) << " Start BLE backend [...] ";
                              
                                  ConnectionHandler connectionHandler;
                                  DeviceHandler m_deviceHandler;
                              
                              
                                  // TODO! Restore debug options.
                                  GenericDeviceIf::start(debugMode, protocolDebug);
                              
                                  // Initialize reachable state to unreachable.
                                  DataModel::getInstance()->setDeviceCategoryReachable(_category, false);
                              
                                  _endpoints = DataModel::getInstance() ->getEndpointsListByCategory(dataBaseClasses::ENDPOINT_CATEGORY_BLE);
                              
                                  m_deviceHandler.setDevice(nullptr);
                                  qDeleteAll(devices);
                                  devices.clear();
                              
                                  emit devicesChanged();
                              
                                  qCDebug(BLELog) << "Scanning for devices...";
                              
                                  discoveryAgent->start(QBluetoothDeviceDiscoveryAgent::LowEnergyMethod);
                              
                                  emit scanningChanged();
                              
                                  // [Retrieving the list of devices]
                              
                                      characteristic = service_list->characteristic(QBluetoothUuid(readListUuid));
                              
                                      for (const auto &e: _endpoints){
                                          L.append(QString(e->getMapping()).toUtf8());
                                      }
                              
                                      if (L.empty())
                                          qCDebug(BLELog) << "No endpoints loaded in the list";
                              
                                      for (const auto &list: L) {
                                          service_list -> writeCharacteristic(characteristic, list) ;
                                      }
                              
                              
                              }
                              

                              In this way I am able to connect to the BOX using an external BLE scanner app on my phone and once connected I would like to see the content of "list".
                              With this code the problem is that I can see only the last MAC address in the list, how can I see the complete content?

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                                I have been using Bluetooth LE Explorer.
                                But my Bluetooth is not turning on on windows 10 for 2 days any help.

                                Updated: Glad found the solution here for Bluetooth turning on issue.

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                                  I have been using Bluetooth LE Explorer.
                                  But my Bluetooth is not turning on on windows 10 for 2 days any help.

                                  Updated: Glad found the solution here for Bluetooth turning on issue.

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                                  @Habanvee In what way is your question related to Qt?
                                  You should rather ask in a Windows forum.

                                  https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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                                    I have been using BLE suite this app has a primary scanner view option that detects all the available devices using the Android operating system.

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