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    AndreaFurlani
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    Thank you both for the replies.
    @SGaist Yes I'm working on something similar.

    @AnneRanch as security I mean something like "you cannot see information of the devices or a devices list on an external app because Bluetooth doesn't allow thing like this"

    I was thinking something like this:

    1. The app scan for devices to connect and I can choose the box (easy part, lot of examples in Qt);
    2. Once connected, the box send to the app a list of all the actually connected devices which will be displayed in the app;
    3. In the app I can select a device and a new window will appears with the buttons "on" and "off";
    4. Once I select one of the options, the app will send to the box a signal "device x, command y";
    5. The box reads the command and send it to the device that will perform the designated action
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      Thanks for the clear picture.

      Can you explain what you were thinking to do with regards to the use of signals ?

      It seems that you have a pretty well defined API so I think you'll have a controller that will be responsible for the communication with the "hub" device. Is it so ?

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        @AndreaFurlani said in App for bluetooth scanning:

        The app scan for devices to connect and I can choose the box (easy part, lot of examples in Qt);
        I am not sure what you call "the box" .
        I do not want to be pedantic - but IMHO "home brew " terminology can became unnecessary issue in the long run.
        During my , still ongoing , development I found that it is helpful to call "local (bluetooth) device " the one connected to your controller and "remote (bluetooth) device ".
        I have found that "client /server" is little misleading when "two way communication" is involved , so does "home ".

        Again - not that important when it is all "under one roof " .

        I am not sure that monitoring the bluetooth "raw data" is best way to limit the function of the "remote device". But I came from "telecommunication background " and I always view the communication payload as "transparent ". In my case - I cannot "key-up" the remote transmitter device so I won't even attempt to send anything close to such command.

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        • SGaistS SGaist

          Thanks for the clear picture.

          Can you explain what you were thinking to do with regards to the use of signals ?

          It seems that you have a pretty well defined API so I think you'll have a controller that will be responsible for the communication with the "hub" device. Is it so ?

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          @SGaist Since I'm quite new in Qt and specially in bluetooth, I have no idea on how my app can ask to the box for the list of devices, so my idea was like:

          1- the app send a request signal to the box
          2- the box answer back by sending a list containing all the devices connected
          3- once the user has selected what to do with a device, the app send back a variable containing the device and the action to perform

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          • A AndreaFurlani

            @SGaist Since I'm quite new in Qt and specially in bluetooth, I have no idea on how my app can ask to the box for the list of devices, so my idea was like:

            1- the app send a request signal to the box
            2- the box answer back by sending a list containing all the devices connected
            3- once the user has selected what to do with a device, the app send back a variable containing the device and the action to perform

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            @AndreaFurlani said in App for bluetooth scanning:

            @SGaist Since I'm quite new in Qt and specially in bluetooth, I have no idea on how my app can ask to the box for the list of devices, so my idea was like:

            1- the app send a request signal to the box
            2- the box answer back by sending a list containing all the devices connected
            3- once the user has selected what to do with a device, the app send back a variable containing the device and the action to perform

            OK, I am still missing something here .
            Again , from my background :
            in general - "communication" has three basic parts and for simplicity it is defined as communication in one direction only.

            sender -> communication media ->receiver
            or
            source communication media sink / load

            Where is your "box" in this scheme ? Does look like this ?

            sender communication media (bluetooth) "receiver BOX sender " communication media ( actual media ?) receiver

            where "BOX sender" is actually multiple senders ?

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              SGaist
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              Your box needs to have a protocol established.

              See the exchanging data between devices part of the Bluetooth chapter in Qt's documentation.

              You'll then have to establish a clear protocol for your "service".

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              • SGaistS SGaist

                Your box needs to have a protocol established.

                See the exchanging data between devices part of the Bluetooth chapter in Qt's documentation.

                You'll then have to establish a clear protocol for your "service".

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                @SGaist said in App for bluetooth scanning:

                Your box needs to have a protocol established.

                See the exchanging data between devices part of the Bluetooth chapter in Qt's documentation.

                You'll then have to establish a clear protocol for your "service".

                Very helpful post .
                Since I started by using btscanner example I was wondering why my "remote bluetooth device " is "identified as "SPP" . Now I have an answer.
                After I get this "inquiry" mess cleaned - up my next step is indeed using "chat "...

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                • SGaistS SGaist

                  Your box needs to have a protocol established.

                  See the exchanging data between devices part of the Bluetooth chapter in Qt's documentation.

                  You'll then have to establish a clear protocol for your "service".

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                  AndreaFurlani
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                  @SGaist Thank you very much. I'll try to read it and make some tries.

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                    Hello again, I returned Here since I'm still stuck. In this moment I'm trying to create a new bluetooth service (in the box code), where I'll ask for creating an retrieve a list of all connected devices (and I still have not idea on how to do it, I saw this in the documentation, maybe could be useful).
                    So in this way I can create another service (on the app code) where once retrieved the list will associate to a device a command (and again I still have not idea on how to do it) and send it back to the box to execute it.
                    Any idea on how I can do it?
                    Thank you again for all the help.

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                      Something is not clear, what will run on that box ?

                      Interested in AI ? www.idiap.ch
                      Please read the Qt Code of Conduct - https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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                      • A AndreaFurlani

                        Hello again, I returned Here since I'm still stuck. In this moment I'm trying to create a new bluetooth service (in the box code), where I'll ask for creating an retrieve a list of all connected devices (and I still have not idea on how to do it, I saw this in the documentation, maybe could be useful).
                        So in this way I can create another service (on the app code) where once retrieved the list will associate to a device a command (and again I still have not idea on how to do it) and send it back to the box to execute it.
                        Any idea on how I can do it?
                        Thank you again for all the help.

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                        @AndreaFurlani I would suggest to take a look at examples. Start with "qtconnectivity" - btscanner.
                        It does the basics - scans for nearby bluetooth devices etc.
                        However it is scarcely documented - in code - and assumes some knowledge about bluetooth.
                        From my experience - do not assume that your "local bluetooth device " is enabled to be used to scan for "remote bluetooth devices".
                        I have two with different dongles with different "class of service" and the scan results are NOT the same.

                        Same for "remote bluetooth device" - my powered "remote device " with serial USB to bluetooth adapter" can be "found" , my powered remote "boom box" has to be activated to be found.
                        Beware of running active operating system "bluetooth manager" software - it actually over-rides , takes precedence, of SOME of your code.

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                        • SGaistS SGaist

                          Something is not clear, what will run on that box ?

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                          @SGaist The box is connected to some lights and sensors via zigbee or bluetooth. I need a list of all the connected devices to the box

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                            @AndreaFurlani I would suggest to take a look at examples. Start with "qtconnectivity" - btscanner.
                            It does the basics - scans for nearby bluetooth devices etc.
                            However it is scarcely documented - in code - and assumes some knowledge about bluetooth.
                            From my experience - do not assume that your "local bluetooth device " is enabled to be used to scan for "remote bluetooth devices".
                            I have two with different dongles with different "class of service" and the scan results are NOT the same.

                            Same for "remote bluetooth device" - my powered "remote device " with serial USB to bluetooth adapter" can be "found" , my powered remote "boom box" has to be activated to be found.
                            Beware of running active operating system "bluetooth manager" software - it actually over-rides , takes precedence, of SOME of your code.

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                            AndreaFurlani
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                            @AnneRanch thank you for the answer. I already watched all the bluetooth examples in Qt creator but no one of them is useful to understand how to create a new service and in particular how to do the things I need.

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                              @AnneRanch thank you for the answer. I already watched all the bluetooth examples in Qt creator but no one of them is useful to understand how to create a new service and in particular how to do the things I need.

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                              @AndreaFurlani said in App for bluetooth scanning:

                              how to create a new service

                              Since bluetooth devices have "class of service" be careful using the term.
                              I am still unclear about your overall task . I think I asked for simple hardware picture before .
                              Let me make analogy with my project
                              local bt device (PC) -> bluetooth media communication path -> remote bt device (radio )

                              one on my "services" would be - set the radio frequency

                              so "my box - radio " would turn on correct frequency and display it on build-in LCD

                              Are you attempting to do similar tasks via your box ?

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                                @SGaist The box is connected to some lights and sensors via zigbee or bluetooth. I need a list of all the connected devices to the box

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                                @AndreaFurlani said in App for bluetooth scanning:

                                @SGaist The box is connected to some lights and sensors via zigbee or bluetooth. I need a list of all the connected devices to the box

                                Hence my question what software runs on that box ?

                                Interested in AI ? www.idiap.ch
                                Please read the Qt Code of Conduct - https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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                                  Hello I'm back again. I made some progress in writing my code. Now the box starts the advertising without problem.
                                  Here's the code:

                                  void bluetoothDevice::start(bool debugMode, bool protocolDebug)
                                  {
                                      //Personalized Service for connected bluetooth devices list
                                  
                                      static const QLatin1String serviceUuid("11223344-5566-7788-99aa-bbccddeeff00");
                                      //static const QLatin1String writeListUuid("11223344-5566-7788-99aa-bbccddeeff11");
                                      static const QLatin1String readListUuid("11223344-5566-7788-99aa-bbccddeeff11");
                                  
                                      // [Advertising Data]
                                          QLowEnergyAdvertisingData advertisingData;
                                          advertisingData.setDiscoverability(QLowEnergyAdvertisingData::DiscoverabilityGeneral);
                                          advertisingData.setIncludePowerLevel(true);
                                          advertisingData.setLocalName("BOX");
                                          advertisingData.setServices(QList<QBluetoothUuid>() << QBluetoothUuid(serviceUuid));
                                  
                                      // [Service Data]
                                          QLowEnergyCharacteristicData readList;
                                  
                                          readList.setUuid(QBluetoothUuid(readListUuid));
                                          readList.setProperties(QLowEnergyCharacteristic::Read);
                                          const QLowEnergyDescriptorData clientConfig(QBluetoothUuid::CharacteristicUserDescription,QByteArray(2, 0));
                                          readList.addDescriptor(clientConfig);
                                  
                                  
                                          //writeList.setUuid(QBluetoothUuid(writeListUuid));
                                          //writeList.setProperties(QLowEnergyCharacteristic::Write);
                                  
                                  
                                          QLowEnergyServiceData serviceData;
                                          serviceData.setType(QLowEnergyServiceData::ServiceTypePrimary);
                                          serviceData.setUuid(QBluetoothUuid(serviceUuid));
                                          serviceData.addCharacteristic(readList);
                                          //serviceData.addCharacteristic(writeList);
                                  
                                  
                                      // [Start Advertising]
                                  
                                          leController.reset(QLowEnergyController::createPeripheral());
                                          service_list.reset(leController->addService(serviceData));
                                          leController->startAdvertising(QLowEnergyAdvertisingParameters(), advertisingData,advertisingData);
                                  
                                  
                                      qCDebug(BLELog) << " Start BLE backend [...] ";
                                  
                                      ConnectionHandler connectionHandler;
                                      DeviceHandler m_deviceHandler;
                                  
                                  
                                      // TODO! Restore debug options.
                                      GenericDeviceIf::start(debugMode, protocolDebug);
                                  
                                      // Initialize reachable state to unreachable.
                                      DataModel::getInstance()->setDeviceCategoryReachable(_category, false);
                                  
                                      _endpoints = DataModel::getInstance() ->getEndpointsListByCategory(dataBaseClasses::ENDPOINT_CATEGORY_BLE);
                                  
                                      m_deviceHandler.setDevice(nullptr);
                                      qDeleteAll(devices);
                                      devices.clear();
                                  
                                      emit devicesChanged();
                                  
                                      qCDebug(BLELog) << "Scanning for devices...";
                                  
                                      discoveryAgent->start(QBluetoothDeviceDiscoveryAgent::LowEnergyMethod);
                                  
                                      emit scanningChanged();
                                  
                                      // [Retrieving the list of devices]
                                  
                                          characteristic = service_list->characteristic(QBluetoothUuid(readListUuid));
                                  
                                          for (const auto &e: _endpoints){
                                              L.append(QString(e->getMapping()).toUtf8());
                                          }
                                  
                                          if (L.empty())
                                              qCDebug(BLELog) << "No endpoints loaded in the list";
                                  
                                          for (const auto &list: L) {
                                              service_list -> writeCharacteristic(characteristic, list) ;
                                          }
                                  
                                  
                                  }
                                  

                                  In this way I am able to connect to the BOX using an external BLE scanner app on my phone and once connected I would like to see the content of "list".
                                  With this code the problem is that I can see only the last MAC address in the list, how can I see the complete content?

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                                    I have been using Bluetooth LE Explorer.
                                    But my Bluetooth is not turning on on windows 10 for 2 days any help.

                                    Updated: Glad found the solution here for Bluetooth turning on issue.

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                                      I have been using Bluetooth LE Explorer.
                                      But my Bluetooth is not turning on on windows 10 for 2 days any help.

                                      Updated: Glad found the solution here for Bluetooth turning on issue.

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                                      jsulm
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                                      @Habanvee In what way is your question related to Qt?
                                      You should rather ask in a Windows forum.

                                      https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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                                        I have been using BLE suite this app has a primary scanner view option that detects all the available devices using the Android operating system.

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