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  • M Mlibu
    22 Mar 2024, 11:34

    @Ronel_qtmaster Yes and this is when people told me, "are you stupid? Just install a kit". Now try finding any info on how to do that. There is one section of one page on the Qt document that says "if you don't see kits, go to add kit!". But nowhere does it say that you need to go to the Qt tab, add a Qt instance manually by selecting the 'qmake6' within the Qt directory, then install cmake and ninja and make sure cmake and the right Qt are selected in the main kit tab page. I have done this many times now directly off of fresh OS installs and it doesn't work for me either.

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    wrote on 22 Mar 2024, 12:34 last edited by
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    @Mlibu said in I'm back with a GPU.. Qt Creator still not working:

    But nowhere does it say that you need to go to the Qt tab, add a Qt instance manually by selecting the 'qmake6' within the Qt directory, then install cmake and ninja and make sure cmake

    If you add a Kit you will see that you have to define a compiler, Qt version, debugger, ...
    So, it is obvious you need Qt, compiler, debugger.
    CMake is of course needed if you want to use CMake as build system.

    https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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    • M Mlibu
      22 Mar 2024, 11:25

      @Tink I have made it very clear that I want to use the Designer page in Qt Creator. Why would I go out of my way to read about UI.QML files if I don't plan to be using them? Up until a short time ago, people told me that Qt Design Studio wasn't as useful as Qt Creator and the links you shows me say they work with "Qt Designer" which I also don't use so why would I have looked any further? I am dubious about UI.QML anyway because in my experience when I separate business logic from UI, there is almost never a 1:1 relationship between those two levels.

      I google searched on "an example of how to use ui qml files preferably from QT documentation" and the hits that come up are the ones that you already showed me, along with a stackoverflow with a vague answer and a Reddit.

      It's fine, I have already resigned myself to the fact that I will need to keep doing QML manually. I thought I could improve my workflow but I guess I was wrong. I'm doing a lot of graphics in the next project and I dared to dream I could see a visual representation. I'll stop watching YouTube tutorials and aspire to actually do the things shown in them one day.

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      wrote on 22 Mar 2024, 13:02 last edited by
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      @Mlibu said in I'm back with a GPU.. Qt Creator still not working:

      @Tink I have made it very clear that I want to use the Designer page in Qt Creator. Why would I go out of my way to read about UI.QML files if I don't plan to be using them? Up until a short time ago, people told me that Qt Design Studio wasn't as useful as Qt Creator and the links you shows me say they work with "Qt Designer" which I also don't use so why would I have looked any further? I am dubious about UI.QML anyway because in my experience when I separate business logic from UI, there is almost never a 1:1 relationship between those two levels.

      I google searched on "an example of how to use ui qml files preferably from QT documentation" and the hits that come up are the ones that you already showed me, along with a stackoverflow with a vague answer and a Reddit.

      It's fine, I have already resigned myself to the fact that I will need to keep doing QML manually. I thought I could improve my workflow but I guess I was wrong. I'm doing a lot of graphics in the next project and I dared to dream I could see a visual representation. I'll stop watching YouTube tutorials and aspire to actually do the things shown in them one day.

      You have made it very clear that you are confused about the different products that Qt has to offer and confused about how to install and configure them. Now all of this can be found in the documentation. I can find within 30 seconds the difference between qt design studio and qt designer. Between ui and ui.qml. Less than 30 secs to find how to configure kits in the qtcreator manual.

      Meanwhile all you are able to do or willing to do is raise more questions, that for the most part can be looked up yourself, and somehow point the finger to other people who seem to be responsible for your lack of understanding. Do you know that there are forums who have rules against such behavior?

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        22 Mar 2024, 13:02

        @Mlibu said in I'm back with a GPU.. Qt Creator still not working:

        @Tink I have made it very clear that I want to use the Designer page in Qt Creator. Why would I go out of my way to read about UI.QML files if I don't plan to be using them? Up until a short time ago, people told me that Qt Design Studio wasn't as useful as Qt Creator and the links you shows me say they work with "Qt Designer" which I also don't use so why would I have looked any further? I am dubious about UI.QML anyway because in my experience when I separate business logic from UI, there is almost never a 1:1 relationship between those two levels.

        I google searched on "an example of how to use ui qml files preferably from QT documentation" and the hits that come up are the ones that you already showed me, along with a stackoverflow with a vague answer and a Reddit.

        It's fine, I have already resigned myself to the fact that I will need to keep doing QML manually. I thought I could improve my workflow but I guess I was wrong. I'm doing a lot of graphics in the next project and I dared to dream I could see a visual representation. I'll stop watching YouTube tutorials and aspire to actually do the things shown in them one day.

        You have made it very clear that you are confused about the different products that Qt has to offer and confused about how to install and configure them. Now all of this can be found in the documentation. I can find within 30 seconds the difference between qt design studio and qt designer. Between ui and ui.qml. Less than 30 secs to find how to configure kits in the qtcreator manual.

        Meanwhile all you are able to do or willing to do is raise more questions, that for the most part can be looked up yourself, and somehow point the finger to other people who seem to be responsible for your lack of understanding. Do you know that there are forums who have rules against such behavior?

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        wrote on 22 Mar 2024, 13:07 last edited by Mlibu
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        @Tink Ok I'm here to find a solution to my problem, not discuss the clarity of the documentation. I guess the part about kits didn't come up in my google searches of "how to add a kit to qt creator".

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        • M Mlibu
          22 Mar 2024, 13:07

          @Tink Ok I'm here to find a solution to my problem, not discuss the clarity of the documentation. I guess the part about kits didn't come up in my google searches of "how to add a kit to qt creator".

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          JoeCFD
          wrote on 22 Mar 2024, 14:01 last edited by
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          @Mlibu not sure if qt creator is working well with Vulkan. I have not tried it.
          If your qt creator works, neither Designer nor Qt Design Studio is mandatory for your GUI design while they should work. Actually, I do not use both of them now although I have used Qt for some years.

          run the following command to check if something is missing(especially plugins)
          strace qtcreator

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          • J JoeCFD
            22 Mar 2024, 14:01

            @Mlibu not sure if qt creator is working well with Vulkan. I have not tried it.
            If your qt creator works, neither Designer nor Qt Design Studio is mandatory for your GUI design while they should work. Actually, I do not use both of them now although I have used Qt for some years.

            run the following command to check if something is missing(especially plugins)
            strace qtcreator

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            wrote on 22 Mar 2024, 14:15 last edited by Mlibu
            #86

            @JoeCFD Yes I have done a lot of QML manually but this time I want to have a lot more visual asthetic in my interface so I was really hoping to use creator to tie the signals to the ui etc. I will try the strace.

            I have not heard good things about Qt Design Studio but I guess I will use it in the end if it gives me a visual and it works. Don't know how easy it is to work with C++ behind it though.

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            • M Mlibu
              22 Mar 2024, 14:15

              @JoeCFD Yes I have done a lot of QML manually but this time I want to have a lot more visual asthetic in my interface so I was really hoping to use creator to tie the signals to the ui etc. I will try the strace.

              I have not heard good things about Qt Design Studio but I guess I will use it in the end if it gives me a visual and it works. Don't know how easy it is to work with C++ behind it though.

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              JoeCFD
              wrote on 22 Mar 2024, 14:34 last edited by
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              @Mlibu any good reasons for using Manjaro? I doubt Qt folks test Qt in all Linux distributions.

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              • J JoeCFD
                22 Mar 2024, 14:34

                @Mlibu any good reasons for using Manjaro? I doubt Qt folks test Qt in all Linux distributions.

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                JonB
                wrote on 22 Mar 2024, 14:39 last edited by
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                @JoeCFD
                I already asked OP about this, requesting he try something we know lots of us use like Ubuntu. If you scroll back to about https://forum.qt.io/topic/155232/i-m-back-with-a-gpu-qt-creator-still-not-working/59 he replied

                I have already tried Manjaro/KDE and Ubuntu/Gnome. Both with the package managers and with the unified installer.

                If he is having his problem on Ubuntu/GNOME I don't know why his situation is apparently different from others.

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                • J JonB
                  22 Mar 2024, 14:39

                  @JoeCFD
                  I already asked OP about this, requesting he try something we know lots of us use like Ubuntu. If you scroll back to about https://forum.qt.io/topic/155232/i-m-back-with-a-gpu-qt-creator-still-not-working/59 he replied

                  I have already tried Manjaro/KDE and Ubuntu/Gnome. Both with the package managers and with the unified installer.

                  If he is having his problem on Ubuntu/GNOME I don't know why his situation is apparently different from others.

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                  wrote on 22 Mar 2024, 14:51 last edited by
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                  @JonB In the end I will use Ubuntu if that is the only thing that works. I'm not a big fan of Gnome and prefer KDE and Arch rolling release that's all. But like person before me said, I tried Ubuntu 23.10 and it did the same thing for me. Some people have suggested that I try Ubuntu 20.02 but I haven't had a chance yet.

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                  • M Mlibu
                    22 Mar 2024, 14:51

                    @JonB In the end I will use Ubuntu if that is the only thing that works. I'm not a big fan of Gnome and prefer KDE and Arch rolling release that's all. But like person before me said, I tried Ubuntu 23.10 and it did the same thing for me. Some people have suggested that I try Ubuntu 20.02 but I haven't had a chance yet.

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                    Ronel_qtmaster
                    wrote on 22 Mar 2024, 14:54 last edited by
                    #90

                    @Mlibu is your project compiling with qt6?

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                    • R Ronel_qtmaster
                      22 Mar 2024, 14:54

                      @Mlibu is your project compiling with qt6?

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                      Mlibu
                      wrote on 22 Mar 2024, 14:55 last edited by Mlibu
                      #91

                      @Ronel_qtmaster Yes I can compile it with 6.6.0. Also the red square that I can't see on the screen appears in the window when it executes.

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                      • M Mlibu
                        22 Mar 2024, 14:55

                        @Ronel_qtmaster Yes I can compile it with 6.6.0. Also the red square that I can't see on the screen appears in the window when it executes.

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                        Ronel_qtmaster
                        wrote on 22 Mar 2024, 14:57 last edited by
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                        @Mlibu okay what is missing now?I mean which tool or feature

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                        • M Mlibu
                          22 Mar 2024, 14:55

                          @Ronel_qtmaster Yes I can compile it with 6.6.0. Also the red square that I can't see on the screen appears in the window when it executes.

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                          Ronel_qtmaster
                          wrote on 22 Mar 2024, 15:02 last edited by
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                          @Mlibu maybe you will have to try with ubuntu instead.
                          check this https://doc.qt.io/qt-6/supported-platforms.html
                          qt6.PNG

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                            Mlibu
                            wrote on 22 Mar 2024, 15:12 last edited by Mlibu
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                            Ok so none of the packages on any other OS are even guaranteed to be working? Wow.

                            I'll try it on Windows 10 again then. I googled many times on "requirements for Qt creator". I guess I should have searched on "requirements for qt6".

                            I didn't want to do it on my mac because that requires all kinds of xcode library stuff and then it always breaks every time you have to upgrade xcode.

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                            • M Mlibu
                              22 Mar 2024, 15:12

                              Ok so none of the packages on any other OS are even guaranteed to be working? Wow.

                              I'll try it on Windows 10 again then. I googled many times on "requirements for Qt creator". I guess I should have searched on "requirements for qt6".

                              I didn't want to do it on my mac because that requires all kinds of xcode library stuff and then it always breaks every time you have to upgrade xcode.

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                              Ronel_qtmaster
                              wrote on 22 Mar 2024, 15:15 last edited by
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                              @Mlibu yes exactly.okay if you try on windows 10 and face issues let me know.I also did my installation on windows 10

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                              • R Ronel_qtmaster
                                22 Mar 2024, 15:15

                                @Mlibu yes exactly.okay if you try on windows 10 and face issues let me know.I also did my installation on windows 10

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                                Mlibu
                                wrote on 22 Mar 2024, 15:16 last edited by Mlibu
                                #96

                                @Ronel_qtmaster Thanks, this is very helpful. Though I am not enthusiastic about any of those OSes. Maybe I will just make a small partition for it. Reboot is quick now with SSDs anyway. I did try on windows 10 but it may have been pre-1809. I didn't think this would depend on a certain version of windows.

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                                • M Mlibu
                                  22 Mar 2024, 15:16

                                  @Ronel_qtmaster Thanks, this is very helpful. Though I am not enthusiastic about any of those OSes. Maybe I will just make a small partition for it. Reboot is quick now with SSDs anyway. I did try on windows 10 but it may have been pre-1809. I didn't think this would depend on a certain version of windows.

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                                  wrote on 22 Mar 2024, 15:21 last edited by
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                                  @Mlibu yes you can make a partition just for windows.Anyway just try let's see

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                                  • M Mlibu
                                    22 Mar 2024, 14:51

                                    @JonB In the end I will use Ubuntu if that is the only thing that works. I'm not a big fan of Gnome and prefer KDE and Arch rolling release that's all. But like person before me said, I tried Ubuntu 23.10 and it did the same thing for me. Some people have suggested that I try Ubuntu 20.02 but I haven't had a chance yet.

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                                    JoeCFD
                                    wrote on 22 Mar 2024, 16:19 last edited by
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                                    @Mlibu I am using Qt 5.15.3/6.6.2 on Ubuntu 22.04 daily at work. I have Ubuntu 23.04 at home. No issues.

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                                    • R Ronel_qtmaster
                                      22 Mar 2024, 15:21

                                      @Mlibu yes you can make a partition just for windows.Anyway just try let's see

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                                      Mlibu
                                      wrote on 22 Mar 2024, 16:45 last edited by
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                                      @Ronel_qtmaster So I went to my windows 10 disk and updated it fully. I am now at version 22H2.

                                      I downloaded the unified installer, selected the Windows Development Environment box and installed it. When I create a project I cannot go to the design page until I install the Qt Quick designer plugin. When I do install the plugin and go to the design page I drag a rectangle onto the page and select red background and it crashes seconds later.

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                                      • J JoeCFD
                                        22 Mar 2024, 16:19

                                        @Mlibu I am using Qt 5.15.3/6.6.2 on Ubuntu 22.04 daily at work. I have Ubuntu 23.04 at home. No issues.

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                                        Mlibu
                                        wrote on 22 Mar 2024, 16:47 last edited by Mlibu
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                                        @JoeCFD Let me try ubuntu 22.04 with qt5.

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                                        • M Mlibu
                                          22 Mar 2024, 16:45

                                          @Ronel_qtmaster So I went to my windows 10 disk and updated it fully. I am now at version 22H2.

                                          I downloaded the unified installer, selected the Windows Development Environment box and installed it. When I create a project I cannot go to the design page until I install the Qt Quick designer plugin. When I do install the plugin and go to the design page I drag a rectangle onto the page and select red background and it crashes seconds later.

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                                          Ronel_qtmaster
                                          wrote on 22 Mar 2024, 17:22 last edited by Ronel_qtmaster
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                                          @Mlibu okay.Here in my version 6.6 when i go to the design tab, they tell me that no qt Design studio found.So it seems to use qt design studio for designing qml files.
                                          Then i go to help, plugins and enable qmldesigner by clicking on the checkbox and after on ok.Don't click on install anyway

                                          they will ask you to restart qt do it

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