Experiences on paid applications
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[quote author="fcrochik" date="1293392829"]Any reason to not use "google maps" in the meanwhile? [/quote]
On one hand it has licensing and on other hand some historical reasons. I have signed an NDA with Nokia therefore I cannot tell you too much about the background, but I hope in the near future it will change a lot.
You can find some more information "here":http://www.callingallinnovators.com/apps_on_maps_finalists.aspx (I had a website few months ago but I have decided not too keep it due to the uncertainties).
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[quote author="VCsala" date="1293393248"]
On one hand it has licensing and on other hand some historical reasons. I have signed an NDA with Nokia therefore I cannot tell you too much about the background, but I hope in the near future it will change a lot.
You can find some more information "here":http://www.callingallinnovators.com/apps_on_maps_finalists.aspx (I had a website few months ago but I have decided not too keep it due to the uncertainties).[/quote]
Just to make easier: which one is yours?
You got love NDAs....
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Easy, my full name is Viktor Csala, and msgboard is mine. NDA was a precondition to take part in the competition, and later I had to sign an NDA when I was elected to Forum Nokia Champion. Nokia has this habit and if you want to work with them (as I see) you have to respect their business "secrets" (anyway in my real occupation I am a consultant and it is a common practice to protect our partners interest and information so I get used to it)
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[quote author="VCsala" date="1293394548"]Easy, my full name is Viktor Csala, and msgboard is mine. NDA was a precondition to take part in the competition, and later I had to sign an NDA when I was elected to Forum Nokia Champion. Nokia has this habit and if you want to work with them (as I see) you have to respect their business "secrets" (anyway in my real occupation I am a consultant and it is a common practice to protect our partners interest and information so I get used to it)[/quote]
Cool I like the idea (of the app). I have considered several ideas that would use the "proximity" idea but the battery on the n900 is such an issue that made me give up. I haven't actually tested how the GPS will affect the battery but can't imagine that it won't.
p.s. I recognize the need of protecting partners secrets and NDAs. I also have signed several of them. It is just the "tech" guy in me that has to rebel when it gets disappointed when interesting technical conversations end up with: sorry, can't tell you that!
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[quote author="VCsala" date="1293395661"]I hope in the near future we can discuss it in more free manner. Anyway I am an active user of MyContacts and I really like it, it is a great app (moreover, if you see that on other platforms you have to pay for similar apps). [/quote]
Glad to hear! Thank you.
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[quote author="fcrochik" date="1293396041"]is the msgboard available on the n900? I would like to test it :)[/quote]
Not yet, unfortunately. I am working on the porting when I have time. I hope I can release it in February/March. I was thinking about to have some closed beta testing, so I will count on you definitely.
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[quote author="VCsala" date="1293396348"]
Not yet, unfortunately. I am working on the porting when I have time. I hope I can release it in February/March. I was thinking about to have some closed beta testing, so I will count on you definitely.[/quote]Just let me know... Also, if you have any suggestions/comments about my applications let me know. I haven't had as much time as I would like to devote to them lately but I always like new ideas.
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[quote author="fcrochik" date="1293396735"]Also, if you have any suggestions/comments about my applications let me know. I haven't had as much time as I would like to devote to them lately but I always like new ideas.[/quote]
I have some ideas and I plan to open a suggestion in your bugtracker (I beleive that is good place for it)
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[quote author="VCsala" date="1293396978"]
I have some ideas and I plan to open a suggestion in your bugtracker (I beleive that is good place for it)[/quote]I have to say that you would be the first one to use it.
I just added it because the QA group refused to add it to extras w/o one.
Most, if not all, feedback I get and discuss on the t.m.o announcement page for it.
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[quote author="VCsala" date="1293393248"]
[quote author="fcrochik" date="1293392829"]Any reason to not use "google maps" in the meanwhile? [/quote]On one hand it has licensing and on other hand some historical reasons. I have signed an NDA with Nokia therefore I cannot tell you too much about the background, but I hope in the near future it will change a lot.
You can find some more information "here":http://www.callingallinnovators.com/apps_on_maps_finalists.aspx (I had a website few months ago but I have decided not too keep it due to the uncertainties).[/quote]
Good application and perfect UI! I really like it!
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[quote author="fcrochik" date="1293392414"][quote author="Milot Shala" date="1293392179"]
Yes that would be then offering your software as a service. I am planning on doing so in another project which I have in mind, they would pay your system and get the application for free.[/quote]I imagine something on the ovi agreement will try to prevent that... but don't know if they have figured out how yet.[/quote]
I don't think that Nokia has any constraints on that, I have to check the NDA and FAQ for Publishers.
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[quote author="Milot Shala" date="1293398236"]
I don't think that Nokia has any constraints on that, I have to check the NDA and FAQ for Publishers.[/quote]I don't either but if I am not mistaken if you distribute your application for free on the ovi store you are not supposed to charge for upgraded versions "outside" the ovi store.
Of course one could argue that you are selling the "service" (hosting?) and the applications if just "one more" of the clients provided for your service.
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[quote author="fcrochik" date="1293400265"][quote author="Milot Shala" date="1293398236"]
I don't think that Nokia has any constraints on that, I have to check the NDA and FAQ for Publishers.[/quote]I don't either but if I am not mistaken if you distribute your application for free on the ovi store you are not supposed to charge for upgraded versions "outside" the ovi store.
Of course one could argue that you are selling the "service" (hosting?) and the applications if just "one more" of the clients provided for your service.
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Offering software as a service works like this.
You have a service (for example twitter) and you provide the application for mobile device that will communicate through your service that you are providing (for example twitter, you get a mobile app to see tweets, tweet, retweet etc.), you offer the application for free but users must pay in order to use your service (for example if twitter was a paid service, you had to pay twitter but you could download the application for free).
I cannot think right now for any of these types of apps, but if someone can enlighten us here.
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I think Nokia does not allow applications distributed via OVI to accept payment from any other channel other than Nokia payment gateways.
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[quote author="QtK" date="1293446219"]I think Nokia does not allow applications distributed via OVI to accept payment from any other channel other than Nokia payment gateways. [/quote]
I should reread the NDA again :D