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  • mrjjM Offline
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    Hi
    Each app is a mysql client so each would have its own connection to the DB.

    a JS "app" would be running at a server and that server is the mysql client for all
    browsers showing the pages.

    So no, there is not some Qt server that can do the same as its not quite the same setup.

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    • mrjjM mrjj

      Hi
      Each app is a mysql client so each would have its own connection to the DB.

      a JS "app" would be running at a server and that server is the mysql client for all
      browsers showing the pages.

      So no, there is not some Qt server that can do the same as its not quite the same setup.

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      @mrjj
      Oh! thanks for the information. I am happy that you understood my problem.
      Do you know any database hosting providers which provides database hosting without any problems. It should be quite fast.

      OR
      Should I create host in local computer and serve it to other computers via local network

      Example;
      I have computer where mysql is hosted and other peoples connected on the same ROUTER can access it

      Which one would be best. I need it to be fast. So I guess second one will be fast and best alternative. Main drawback is we can't use from anywhere.

      Let's make QT free or It will go forever

      TRUE AND FALSE <3

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        @mrjj
        Oh! thanks for the information. I am happy that you understood my problem.
        Do you know any database hosting providers which provides database hosting without any problems. It should be quite fast.

        OR
        Should I create host in local computer and serve it to other computers via local network

        Example;
        I have computer where mysql is hosted and other peoples connected on the same ROUTER can access it

        Which one would be best. I need it to be fast. So I guess second one will be fast and best alternative. Main drawback is we can't use from anywhere.

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        @Thank-You
        Hi
        There are many that hosts mysql but I have not tried them.
        I heard their own service is super fast
        https://www.mysql.com/cloud/
        but also expensive.

        • Should I create host in local computer and serve it to other computers via local network

        If this is an option. Having the MQSQL within the network, from a security perspective and
        performance, it's way better than in the cloud.
        So yes if this is on the table, i would host locally. For safety, for speed, and for generally an easier setup.

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        • mrjjM mrjj

          @Thank-You
          Hi
          There are many that hosts mysql but I have not tried them.
          I heard their own service is super fast
          https://www.mysql.com/cloud/
          but also expensive.

          • Should I create host in local computer and serve it to other computers via local network

          If this is an option. Having the MQSQL within the network, from a security perspective and
          performance, it's way better than in the cloud.
          So yes if this is on the table, i would host locally. For safety, for speed, and for generally an easier setup.

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          @mrjj

          I watched tutorials on local hosting but hadn't done succesfully.
          I am thinking of using Xampp for this purpose.
          Do you have any idea how to host database locally. (although it is offtopic from the question)
          I would be very happy to know about that thing

          Let's make QT free or It will go forever

          TRUE AND FALSE <3

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            @mrjj

            I watched tutorials on local hosting but hadn't done succesfully.
            I am thinking of using Xampp for this purpose.
            Do you have any idea how to host database locally. (although it is offtopic from the question)
            I would be very happy to know about that thing

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            #6

            Hi
            Xampp is great but does your local server also need a web server?

            The easiest way to have a server is a virtual one.
            One way is to use dockers.
            https://www.docker.com/
            and then download a predefined setup
            https://hub.docker.com/r/mysql/mysql-server

            it would then be able to run anyware/any pc. Do not, learning to use Dockers takes
            a day or so but in the end its not that complicated and once running it can live forever.
            Even the pc that plays server dies. Simply run it on some other pc.

            However, what is the setup?
            Do you have an real server already or you must provide one ?

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            • mrjjM mrjj

              Hi
              Xampp is great but does your local server also need a web server?

              The easiest way to have a server is a virtual one.
              One way is to use dockers.
              https://www.docker.com/
              and then download a predefined setup
              https://hub.docker.com/r/mysql/mysql-server

              it would then be able to run anyware/any pc. Do not, learning to use Dockers takes
              a day or so but in the end its not that complicated and once running it can live forever.
              Even the pc that plays server dies. Simply run it on some other pc.

              However, what is the setup?
              Do you have an real server already or you must provide one ?

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              @mrjj

              One way is to use dockers.

              I am somewhat aware about it. But main thing is
              My computer doesn't support it. I don't have virtualization in this PC.(So can't learn here) I will get new laptop within 2 months I guess. Currently It runs in Intel Dual Core 2.

              Even the pc that plays server dies.

              I am sure there will be no problem with it.
              I will run Xampp in the client machine. It runs pretty well in my machine. So that speed is sufficient for me.
              It will run in about 12 machines.

              However, what is the setup?
              Do you have an real server already or you must provide one ?

              No just windows machine. Nothing specific. If we need more user. They can give me different PC for hosting database(may be after using it for 2 months). So Xampp is best I guess for now.

              Let's make QT free or It will go forever

              TRUE AND FALSE <3

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                @mrjj

                One way is to use dockers.

                I am somewhat aware about it. But main thing is
                My computer doesn't support it. I don't have virtualization in this PC.(So can't learn here) I will get new laptop within 2 months I guess. Currently It runs in Intel Dual Core 2.

                Even the pc that plays server dies.

                I am sure there will be no problem with it.
                I will run Xampp in the client machine. It runs pretty well in my machine. So that speed is sufficient for me.
                It will run in about 12 machines.

                However, what is the setup?
                Do you have an real server already or you must provide one ?

                No just windows machine. Nothing specific. If we need more user. They can give me different PC for hosting database(may be after using it for 2 months). So Xampp is best I guess for now.

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                @Thank-You said in How to connect database to online service:

                Intel Dual Core 2.

                Wow thats a pretty old one.
                As far as I can recall, you can run virtual box on it 32 bit.
                but 64 bit demands VT-x.

                However, if Xampp works fine, i would just go with that. 12 clients is not that much.

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                  @Thank-You said in How to connect database to online service:

                  Intel Dual Core 2.

                  Wow thats a pretty old one.
                  As far as I can recall, you can run virtual box on it 32 bit.
                  but 64 bit demands VT-x.

                  However, if Xampp works fine, i would just go with that. 12 clients is not that much.

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                  @mrjj

                  As far as I can recall, you can run virtual box on it 32 bit.

                  Wow, Really I didn't know about that.

                  Do you have any idea how can I do that?😂😂

                  Let's make QT free or It will go forever

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                    @mrjj

                    As far as I can recall, you can run virtual box on it 32 bit.

                    Wow, Really I didn't know about that.

                    Do you have any idea how can I do that?😂😂

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                    @Thank-You

                    Well if you download virtual box and
                    create a new virtual machine for 32-bit linux.
                    Not all distros have 32 bit anymore.

                    then
                    From the VirtualBox Manager, find the Enable Nested VT-x/AMD-V check box on the Processor tab. To disable the feature, deselect the check box.

                    then you can run most 32-bit linux or windows.
                    just make sure mysql or Xampp is 32 bit

                    To fast test if it still work you can grab a 32 bit win 7 here and test with
                    https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/tools/vms/

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                    • mrjjM mrjj

                      @Thank-You

                      Well if you download virtual box and
                      create a new virtual machine for 32-bit linux.
                      Not all distros have 32 bit anymore.

                      then
                      From the VirtualBox Manager, find the Enable Nested VT-x/AMD-V check box on the Processor tab. To disable the feature, deselect the check box.

                      then you can run most 32-bit linux or windows.
                      just make sure mysql or Xampp is 32 bit

                      To fast test if it still work you can grab a 32 bit win 7 here and test with
                      https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/tools/vms/

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                      @mrjj
                      Hello Sir,
                      I have finalized my thoughts and thought to use Xampp.
                      I am stuck in small problem.
                      It's middle night here. But still I can't find any solutions of it.(Almost searched about this topic for 5-6 hours)

                      I have hosted on 192.168.100.8 But I want to make it fixed that it won't change.
                      Like just hosting database on 192.168.100.8 wherever I am connected In (local network, I should be able to access the port from another computer on the same network).
                      How can I make it host to fixed private Ip in LAN at any time
                      Or
                      Will it change overtime If so how can I solve this problem.

                      Let's make QT free or It will go forever

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                        Hi,

                        Use a proper DNS and name your server appropriately. Otherwise you have to make the address static.

                        In any case, you have to take another thing into account, if you want to connect to your database through the internet, you should really consider implementing a proper service that will shield the database from the internet.

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                        • SGaistS SGaist

                          Hi,

                          Use a proper DNS and name your server appropriately. Otherwise you have to make the address static.

                          In any case, you have to take another thing into account, if you want to connect to your database through the internet, you should really consider implementing a proper service that will shield the database from the internet.

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                          @SGaist

                          Yup, But main thing is I am not able to communicate to server.
                          I have hosted it successfully. But can't connect to server

                          I can go to

                          192.168.100.4:8080/phpmyadmin

                          and it shows as expected. But when I try to connect to database It fails
                          saying

                          53a55e2f-2888-46f7-ba79-90f09606931c-image.png

                             db.setDatabaseName("users");
                             db.setPort(8080);
                             db.setHostName("192.168.100.4");
                             db.setUserName("root");
                             db.setPassword("");
                          

                          What do you think the problem is?

                          Let's make QT free or It will go forever

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                            @SGaist

                            Yup, But main thing is I am not able to communicate to server.
                            I have hosted it successfully. But can't connect to server

                            I can go to

                            192.168.100.4:8080/phpmyadmin

                            and it shows as expected. But when I try to connect to database It fails
                            saying

                            53a55e2f-2888-46f7-ba79-90f09606931c-image.png

                               db.setDatabaseName("users");
                               db.setPort(8080);
                               db.setHostName("192.168.100.4");
                               db.setUserName("root");
                               db.setPassword("");
                            

                            What do you think the problem is?

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                            @Thank-You
                            Hi
                            try with port 3306.

                            You are using port 8080 for
                            db.setPort(8080);

                            but is that not the port the web server uses ?
                            so while 192.168.100.4:8080/phpmyadmin Works, that is the port the web server answers
                            and not to mysql clients.

                            Also make sure port 3306 is not blocked by windows firewall.

                            https://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql-port-reference/en/mysql-ports-reference-tables.html

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                            • mrjjM mrjj

                              @Thank-You
                              Hi
                              try with port 3306.

                              You are using port 8080 for
                              db.setPort(8080);

                              but is that not the port the web server uses ?
                              so while 192.168.100.4:8080/phpmyadmin Works, that is the port the web server answers
                              and not to mysql clients.

                              Also make sure port 3306 is not blocked by windows firewall.

                              https://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql-port-reference/en/mysql-ports-reference-tables.html

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                              @mrjj
                              Yes, I actually got success after seeing this thing for almost day.

                                 db.setDatabaseName("users");
                                 db.setPort(9906);
                              // It  is 9906 because I changed from 3306 to 9906 before some time due to some errors
                                 db.setHostName("192.168.100.4");
                                 db.setUserName("host");
                                 db.setPassword("");
                              

                              I first did what you said

                              changed to 9906(port)

                              And I got the error
                              322a9fd6-006e-401a-8c2e-4e15d0675ce2-image.png

                              Then I created new privileges to all address

                              Now It's finally done!

                              Ok I made it work but Are there security risks in this situation(simple only) ?
                              Another question for you

                              Will private IP change overtime.

                              If so there will be problem because the database won't be hosted if IP changes.
                              Am I right?. Or
                              It will be hosted on the same port?

                              Let's make QT free or It will go forever

                              TRUE AND FALSE <3

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                                @mrjj
                                Yes, I actually got success after seeing this thing for almost day.

                                   db.setDatabaseName("users");
                                   db.setPort(9906);
                                // It  is 9906 because I changed from 3306 to 9906 before some time due to some errors
                                   db.setHostName("192.168.100.4");
                                   db.setUserName("host");
                                   db.setPassword("");
                                

                                I first did what you said

                                changed to 9906(port)

                                And I got the error
                                322a9fd6-006e-401a-8c2e-4e15d0675ce2-image.png

                                Then I created new privileges to all address

                                Now It's finally done!

                                Ok I made it work but Are there security risks in this situation(simple only) ?
                                Another question for you

                                Will private IP change overtime.

                                If so there will be problem because the database won't be hosted if IP changes.
                                Am I right?. Or
                                It will be hosted on the same port?

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                                Hi

                                • Ok I made it work but Are there security risks in this situation(simple only) ?

                                Depends on what you did. if you allowed this port in the firewall on the internal network/pc
                                its ok. That's how one normally allows new traffic on a port.

                                • Will private IP change overtime.

                                Yes. if done by the local DHCP server then yes unless some IT dude promised you
                                it would not. You can be lucky that it will get the same IP for a long time.

                                • If so there will be problem because the database won't be hosted if IP changes.

                                well if the IP changes then the clients cant find the server anymore.

                                But I don't know your LAN. if it's not a home setup then you most likely also have a DNS server and that means you can use a name instead of an IP. the DNS server will then translate the name to the Ip and hence
                                the actual IP is no longer important.

                                • It will be hosted on the same port?

                                Yes unless you change it yourself, port remains the same.

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                                • mrjjM mrjj

                                  Hi

                                  • Ok I made it work but Are there security risks in this situation(simple only) ?

                                  Depends on what you did. if you allowed this port in the firewall on the internal network/pc
                                  its ok. That's how one normally allows new traffic on a port.

                                  • Will private IP change overtime.

                                  Yes. if done by the local DHCP server then yes unless some IT dude promised you
                                  it would not. You can be lucky that it will get the same IP for a long time.

                                  • If so there will be problem because the database won't be hosted if IP changes.

                                  well if the IP changes then the clients cant find the server anymore.

                                  But I don't know your LAN. if it's not a home setup then you most likely also have a DNS server and that means you can use a name instead of an IP. the DNS server will then translate the name to the Ip and hence
                                  the actual IP is no longer important.

                                  • It will be hosted on the same port?

                                  Yes unless you change it yourself, port remains the same.

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                                  @mrjj

                                  if it's not a home setup then you most likely also have a DNS server

                                  It's home server. A router that we use for normal purpose.
                                  With this I want to host this database to other users connected to the same router.

                                  Let's make QT free or It will go forever

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                                    @mrjj

                                    if it's not a home setup then you most likely also have a DNS server

                                    It's home server. A router that we use for normal purpose.
                                    With this I want to host this database to other users connected to the same router.

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                                    @Thank-You said in How to connect database to online service:

                                    A router that we use for normal purpose

                                    Depending on the router you can assign static IPs to network devices.

                                    https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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                                      @mrjj

                                      if it's not a home setup then you most likely also have a DNS server

                                      It's home server. A router that we use for normal purpose.
                                      With this I want to host this database to other users connected to the same router.

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                                      It's home server. A router that we use for normal purpose.

                                      Ok. you can most likely make it assign a fixed ip to the server so it never changes.
                                      If it cant directly, you can often change the range of ips it will give out and
                                      then use an ip outside of this range and hence keep it.

                                      • With this I want to host this database to other users connected to the same router.

                                      Wait ? from outside ? Like from the internet ?

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                                        @mrjj
                                        Yes, I actually got success after seeing this thing for almost day.

                                           db.setDatabaseName("users");
                                           db.setPort(9906);
                                        // It  is 9906 because I changed from 3306 to 9906 before some time due to some errors
                                           db.setHostName("192.168.100.4");
                                           db.setUserName("host");
                                           db.setPassword("");
                                        

                                        I first did what you said

                                        changed to 9906(port)

                                        And I got the error
                                        322a9fd6-006e-401a-8c2e-4e15d0675ce2-image.png

                                        Then I created new privileges to all address

                                        Now It's finally done!

                                        Ok I made it work but Are there security risks in this situation(simple only) ?
                                        Another question for you

                                        Will private IP change overtime.

                                        If so there will be problem because the database won't be hosted if IP changes.
                                        Am I right?. Or
                                        It will be hosted on the same port?

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                                        @Thank-You said in How to connect database to online service:

                                        Then I created new privileges to all address

                                        Depending on how you did that you allowed user from anywhere to connect to your database which might not be what you want.

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                                        • SGaistS SGaist

                                          @Thank-You said in How to connect database to online service:

                                          Then I created new privileges to all address

                                          Depending on how you did that you allowed user from anywhere to connect to your database which might not be what you want.

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                                          @SGaist

                                          PRIVILEGES ON *.* FROM 'host'@'%';
                                          

                                          It is shown while I was updating
                                          I am sorry I did it with PHPMYADMIN So I don't know syntax much of this thing

                                          CREATE USER 'demo'@'%' IDENTIFIED VIA mysql_native_password USING '***';
                                          GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON *.* TO 'demo'@'%' REQUIRE NONE WITH GRANT OPTION MAX_QUERIES_PER_HOUR 0 MAX_CONNECTIONS_PER_HOUR 0 MAX_UPDATES_PER_HOUR 0 MAX_USER_CONNECTIONS 0;
                                          GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON `users`.* TO 'demo'@'%'; 
                                          

                                          I recreated another one for showing.

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