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  • SGaistS Offline
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    Hi,

    Use a proper DNS and name your server appropriately. Otherwise you have to make the address static.

    In any case, you have to take another thing into account, if you want to connect to your database through the internet, you should really consider implementing a proper service that will shield the database from the internet.

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    • SGaistS SGaist

      Hi,

      Use a proper DNS and name your server appropriately. Otherwise you have to make the address static.

      In any case, you have to take another thing into account, if you want to connect to your database through the internet, you should really consider implementing a proper service that will shield the database from the internet.

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      #13

      @SGaist

      Yup, But main thing is I am not able to communicate to server.
      I have hosted it successfully. But can't connect to server

      I can go to

      192.168.100.4:8080/phpmyadmin

      and it shows as expected. But when I try to connect to database It fails
      saying

      53a55e2f-2888-46f7-ba79-90f09606931c-image.png

         db.setDatabaseName("users");
         db.setPort(8080);
         db.setHostName("192.168.100.4");
         db.setUserName("root");
         db.setPassword("");
      

      What do you think the problem is?

      Let's make QT free or It will go forever

      TRUE AND FALSE <3

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        @SGaist

        Yup, But main thing is I am not able to communicate to server.
        I have hosted it successfully. But can't connect to server

        I can go to

        192.168.100.4:8080/phpmyadmin

        and it shows as expected. But when I try to connect to database It fails
        saying

        53a55e2f-2888-46f7-ba79-90f09606931c-image.png

           db.setDatabaseName("users");
           db.setPort(8080);
           db.setHostName("192.168.100.4");
           db.setUserName("root");
           db.setPassword("");
        

        What do you think the problem is?

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        wrote on last edited by
        #14

        @Thank-You
        Hi
        try with port 3306.

        You are using port 8080 for
        db.setPort(8080);

        but is that not the port the web server uses ?
        so while 192.168.100.4:8080/phpmyadmin Works, that is the port the web server answers
        and not to mysql clients.

        Also make sure port 3306 is not blocked by windows firewall.

        https://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql-port-reference/en/mysql-ports-reference-tables.html

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        • mrjjM mrjj

          @Thank-You
          Hi
          try with port 3306.

          You are using port 8080 for
          db.setPort(8080);

          but is that not the port the web server uses ?
          so while 192.168.100.4:8080/phpmyadmin Works, that is the port the web server answers
          and not to mysql clients.

          Also make sure port 3306 is not blocked by windows firewall.

          https://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql-port-reference/en/mysql-ports-reference-tables.html

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          #15

          @mrjj
          Yes, I actually got success after seeing this thing for almost day.

             db.setDatabaseName("users");
             db.setPort(9906);
          // It  is 9906 because I changed from 3306 to 9906 before some time due to some errors
             db.setHostName("192.168.100.4");
             db.setUserName("host");
             db.setPassword("");
          

          I first did what you said

          changed to 9906(port)

          And I got the error
          322a9fd6-006e-401a-8c2e-4e15d0675ce2-image.png

          Then I created new privileges to all address

          Now It's finally done!

          Ok I made it work but Are there security risks in this situation(simple only) ?
          Another question for you

          Will private IP change overtime.

          If so there will be problem because the database won't be hosted if IP changes.
          Am I right?. Or
          It will be hosted on the same port?

          Let's make QT free or It will go forever

          TRUE AND FALSE <3

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            @mrjj
            Yes, I actually got success after seeing this thing for almost day.

               db.setDatabaseName("users");
               db.setPort(9906);
            // It  is 9906 because I changed from 3306 to 9906 before some time due to some errors
               db.setHostName("192.168.100.4");
               db.setUserName("host");
               db.setPassword("");
            

            I first did what you said

            changed to 9906(port)

            And I got the error
            322a9fd6-006e-401a-8c2e-4e15d0675ce2-image.png

            Then I created new privileges to all address

            Now It's finally done!

            Ok I made it work but Are there security risks in this situation(simple only) ?
            Another question for you

            Will private IP change overtime.

            If so there will be problem because the database won't be hosted if IP changes.
            Am I right?. Or
            It will be hosted on the same port?

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            wrote on last edited by mrjj
            #16

            Hi

            • Ok I made it work but Are there security risks in this situation(simple only) ?

            Depends on what you did. if you allowed this port in the firewall on the internal network/pc
            its ok. That's how one normally allows new traffic on a port.

            • Will private IP change overtime.

            Yes. if done by the local DHCP server then yes unless some IT dude promised you
            it would not. You can be lucky that it will get the same IP for a long time.

            • If so there will be problem because the database won't be hosted if IP changes.

            well if the IP changes then the clients cant find the server anymore.

            But I don't know your LAN. if it's not a home setup then you most likely also have a DNS server and that means you can use a name instead of an IP. the DNS server will then translate the name to the Ip and hence
            the actual IP is no longer important.

            • It will be hosted on the same port?

            Yes unless you change it yourself, port remains the same.

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            • mrjjM mrjj

              Hi

              • Ok I made it work but Are there security risks in this situation(simple only) ?

              Depends on what you did. if you allowed this port in the firewall on the internal network/pc
              its ok. That's how one normally allows new traffic on a port.

              • Will private IP change overtime.

              Yes. if done by the local DHCP server then yes unless some IT dude promised you
              it would not. You can be lucky that it will get the same IP for a long time.

              • If so there will be problem because the database won't be hosted if IP changes.

              well if the IP changes then the clients cant find the server anymore.

              But I don't know your LAN. if it's not a home setup then you most likely also have a DNS server and that means you can use a name instead of an IP. the DNS server will then translate the name to the Ip and hence
              the actual IP is no longer important.

              • It will be hosted on the same port?

              Yes unless you change it yourself, port remains the same.

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              wrote on last edited by
              #17

              @mrjj

              if it's not a home setup then you most likely also have a DNS server

              It's home server. A router that we use for normal purpose.
              With this I want to host this database to other users connected to the same router.

              Let's make QT free or It will go forever

              TRUE AND FALSE <3

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                @mrjj

                if it's not a home setup then you most likely also have a DNS server

                It's home server. A router that we use for normal purpose.
                With this I want to host this database to other users connected to the same router.

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                jsulm
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                wrote on last edited by
                #18

                @Thank-You said in How to connect database to online service:

                A router that we use for normal purpose

                Depending on the router you can assign static IPs to network devices.

                https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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                  @mrjj

                  if it's not a home setup then you most likely also have a DNS server

                  It's home server. A router that we use for normal purpose.
                  With this I want to host this database to other users connected to the same router.

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                  mrjj
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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #19

                  It's home server. A router that we use for normal purpose.

                  Ok. you can most likely make it assign a fixed ip to the server so it never changes.
                  If it cant directly, you can often change the range of ips it will give out and
                  then use an ip outside of this range and hence keep it.

                  • With this I want to host this database to other users connected to the same router.

                  Wait ? from outside ? Like from the internet ?

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                  • Thank YouT Thank You

                    @mrjj
                    Yes, I actually got success after seeing this thing for almost day.

                       db.setDatabaseName("users");
                       db.setPort(9906);
                    // It  is 9906 because I changed from 3306 to 9906 before some time due to some errors
                       db.setHostName("192.168.100.4");
                       db.setUserName("host");
                       db.setPassword("");
                    

                    I first did what you said

                    changed to 9906(port)

                    And I got the error
                    322a9fd6-006e-401a-8c2e-4e15d0675ce2-image.png

                    Then I created new privileges to all address

                    Now It's finally done!

                    Ok I made it work but Are there security risks in this situation(simple only) ?
                    Another question for you

                    Will private IP change overtime.

                    If so there will be problem because the database won't be hosted if IP changes.
                    Am I right?. Or
                    It will be hosted on the same port?

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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #20

                    @Thank-You said in How to connect database to online service:

                    Then I created new privileges to all address

                    Depending on how you did that you allowed user from anywhere to connect to your database which might not be what you want.

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                    Please read the Qt Code of Conduct - https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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                    • SGaistS SGaist

                      @Thank-You said in How to connect database to online service:

                      Then I created new privileges to all address

                      Depending on how you did that you allowed user from anywhere to connect to your database which might not be what you want.

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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #21

                      @SGaist

                      PRIVILEGES ON *.* FROM 'host'@'%';
                      

                      It is shown while I was updating
                      I am sorry I did it with PHPMYADMIN So I don't know syntax much of this thing

                      CREATE USER 'demo'@'%' IDENTIFIED VIA mysql_native_password USING '***';
                      GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON *.* TO 'demo'@'%' REQUIRE NONE WITH GRANT OPTION MAX_QUERIES_PER_HOUR 0 MAX_CONNECTIONS_PER_HOUR 0 MAX_UPDATES_PER_HOUR 0 MAX_USER_CONNECTIONS 0;
                      GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON `users`.* TO 'demo'@'%'; 
                      

                      I recreated another one for showing.

                      Let's make QT free or It will go forever

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                      • mrjjM mrjj

                        It's home server. A router that we use for normal purpose.

                        Ok. you can most likely make it assign a fixed ip to the server so it never changes.
                        If it cant directly, you can often change the range of ips it will give out and
                        then use an ip outside of this range and hence keep it.

                        • With this I want to host this database to other users connected to the same router.

                        Wait ? from outside ? Like from the internet ?

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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #22

                        @mrjj said in How to connect database to online service:

                        Wait ? from outside ? Like from the internet ?

                        No, Just within the network only.
                        Like how you use WIFI. (Available to only peoples in the LOCAL NETWORK)

                        If you didn't understand this,
                        Let me give an example

                        Suppose I am connected to the WIFI(router). And you are also connected to the same wifi. I have hosted the database. You can use this database only if you are connected to the same wifi/router that I have hosted into. You are not allowed to access this outside of this network. If you get disconnected with network I won't be able to connect with it.

                        I hope you understands

                        Let's make QT free or It will go forever

                        TRUE AND FALSE <3

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                          @mrjj said in How to connect database to online service:

                          Wait ? from outside ? Like from the internet ?

                          No, Just within the network only.
                          Like how you use WIFI. (Available to only peoples in the LOCAL NETWORK)

                          If you didn't understand this,
                          Let me give an example

                          Suppose I am connected to the WIFI(router). And you are also connected to the same wifi. I have hosted the database. You can use this database only if you are connected to the same wifi/router that I have hosted into. You are not allowed to access this outside of this network. If you get disconnected with network I won't be able to connect with it.

                          I hope you understands

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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #23

                          @Thank-You
                          Ah
                          Ok super. That will work fine then.
                          Yes I understand fully :)

                          If you know the 10 clients pc. you can take their mac address and
                          tell the router to only allow those MAC addresses to the MySQL port.
                          That will block all others-

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                          • mrjjM mrjj

                            @Thank-You
                            Ah
                            Ok super. That will work fine then.
                            Yes I understand fully :)

                            If you know the 10 clients pc. you can take their mac address and
                            tell the router to only allow those MAC addresses to the MySQL port.
                            That will block all others-

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                            #24

                            @mrjj

                            well if the IP changes then the clients cant find the server anymore.

                            As you said this, So I allowed every IP. It can change at anytime

                            72a3c95b-d3f1-4d7c-b2c0-c4cf034b836a-image.png

                            tell the router to only allow those MAC addresses to the MySQL port.

                            I didn't found any place to write MAC address here.

                            Some people on the network (other that people accessing the database can still access the internet and any things)

                            OR
                            Do you mean to block other MAC address(other than 10)

                            Let's make QT free or It will go forever

                            TRUE AND FALSE <3

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                              @Thank-You
                              Ah
                              Ok super. That will work fine then.
                              Yes I understand fully :)

                              If you know the 10 clients pc. you can take their mac address and
                              tell the router to only allow those MAC addresses to the MySQL port.
                              That will block all others-

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                              #25

                              @mrjj

                              tell the router to only allow those MAC addresses to the MySQL port.

                              Oh! maybe I didn't understand it.

                              Do you mean giving access to certain mac address in ROUTER itself?

                              Something like these
                              https://www.snbforums.com/threads/how-to-restrict-open-port-access-to-certain-mac-addresses.7528/
                              https://community.cisco.com/t5/switching/limit-ports-access-for-particular-mac-addresses-only/td-p/723845

                              Let's make QT free or It will go forever

                              TRUE AND FALSE <3

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                                @mrjj

                                tell the router to only allow those MAC addresses to the MySQL port.

                                Oh! maybe I didn't understand it.

                                Do you mean giving access to certain mac address in ROUTER itself?

                                Something like these
                                https://www.snbforums.com/threads/how-to-restrict-open-port-access-to-certain-mac-addresses.7528/
                                https://community.cisco.com/t5/switching/limit-ports-access-for-particular-mac-addresses-only/td-p/723845

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                                #26

                                @Thank-You
                                Hi
                                Yes in the router.
                                so only the approved one can access the server. and not anyone on the same network.
                                If it makes sense ofc.

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                                • mrjjM mrjj

                                  @Thank-You
                                  Hi
                                  Yes in the router.
                                  so only the approved one can access the server. and not anyone on the same network.
                                  If it makes sense ofc.

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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #27

                                  @mrjj
                                  If I use only one router I will do as you said
                                  I am thinking of using new router just for this purpose. And giving connection to only very specific device. So it will be faster and easier also.

                                  Let's make QT free or It will go forever

                                  TRUE AND FALSE <3

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                                    #28

                                    This is Just answer compiled from all answers here.
                                    Special thanks to @mrjj and @SGaist

                                    Each app is a mysql client so each would have its own connection to the DB. a JS "app" would be running at a server and that server is the mysql client for all
                                    browsers showing the pages.
                                    Xampp is great but does your local server also need a web server?

                                    ONE WAY IS

                                    The easiest way to have a server is a virtual one.
                                    One way is to use dockers.
                                    https://www.docker.com/
                                    and then download a predefined setup
                                    https://hub.docker.com/r/mysql/mysql-server

                                    Another WAY IS

                                    For configuring Xampp for hosting

                                    • Go to Your XAMPP Control panel
                                    • Click on apache > config > Apache (httpd.conf)
                                      9222520c-f3a4-43cb-bf56-c518e9b85cea-image.png
                                    • Search for Listen 80 and replace with Listen 8080
                                    • After that check your local ip using ipconfig command (cmd console)
                                    • Search for ServerName localhost:80 and replace with your local ip:8080 (ex.192.168.1.156:8080)
                                      After that open apache > config > Apache (httpd-xampp.conf)
                                      759b2983-88f8-4afd-9476-b9c43c20ef70-image.png
                                    Search for
                                    
                                       <Directory "C:/xampp/phpMyAdmin">
                                           AllowOverride AuthConfig
                                           **Require local**   Replace with   **Require all granted**
                                           ErrorDocument 403 /error/XAMPP_FORBIDDEN.html.var
                                       </Directory>```
                                    
                                    • Go to xampp > config > click on service and port setting and change apache port 8080
                                    • restart xampp
                                    • then hit your IP:8080 (ex.192.168.1.156:8080) from another computer

                                    In any case, you have to take another thing into account, if you want to connect to your database through the internet, you should really consider implementing a proper service that will shield the database from the internet.

                                    6d90fbf9-7604-4f47-8a39-62ae625f1a47-image.png

                                    If You get this error Then You have got the privileges problem

                                    Create new privileges with All accessed or certain IP

                                    CREATE USER 'demo'@'%' IDENTIFIED VIA mysql_native_password USING '***';
                                    GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON *.* TO 'demo'@'%' REQUIRE NONE WITH GRANT OPTION MAX_QUERIES_PER_HOUR 0 MAX_CONNECTIONS_PER_HOUR 0 MAX_UPDATES_PER_HOUR 0 MAX_USER_CONNECTIONS 0;
                                    GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON `users`.* TO 'demo'@'%'; 
                                    

                                    try with port 3306.

                                    You are using port 8080 for
                                    db.setPort(8080);

                                    but is that not the port the web server uses ?
                                    so while 192.168.100.4:8080/phpmyadmin Works, that is the port the web server answers
                                    and not to mysql clients.

                                    Also make sure port 3306 is not blocked by windows firewall.

                                    • Will private IP change overtime.

                                    Yes. if done by the local DHCP server then yes unless some IT dude promised you
                                    it would not. You can be lucky that it will get the same IP for a long time.

                                    • If so there will be problem because the database won't be hosted if IP changes.

                                    well if the IP changes then the clients cant find the server anymore.

                                    Be Happy , You are done now 🤘🤘

                                    Let's make QT free or It will go forever

                                    TRUE AND FALSE <3

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