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  • Christian EhrlicherC Online
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    Christian Ehrlicher
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    #11

    @JonB said in can not print correctly after convert QString to char *:

    does that return such a "temporary object"?

    It's not about returning something. It's about the lifetime of an object.

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    • Christian EhrlicherC Christian Ehrlicher

      @JonB said in can not print correctly after convert QString to char *:

      does that return such a "temporary object"?

      It's not about returning something. It's about the lifetime of an object.

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      JonB
      wrote on last edited by
      #12

      @Christian-Ehrlicher

      Temporary objects are created when a prvalue is materialized so that it can be used as a glvalue, which occurs (since C++17) in the following situations:

      Lovely!

      I also note its second item is:

      returning a prvalue from a function

      Is that where we are here? I'm not stupid, but I am clearly struggling to recognise which situations this applies in.... :(

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      • JonBJ JonB

        @aha_1980
        Wow, OK, yes, I need to read! My problem is I have been "spoiled" by using C# and then Python/PyQt/PySide2 for so long now that I rarely have to think about this!

        So let's take a basic, if my C++ holds up. If I write a function

        QByteArray func()
        {
            QByteArray qb;
            return qb;
        }
        

        does that return such a "temporary object"? And that would be true for any class/struct I decalred and then returned in that fashion?

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        aha_1980
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        #13

        Hi @JonB,

        if I take your example and do the following: QByteArray ba = func(); then ba lives until it goes out of scope. But if I do QByteArray hex = func().toHex() I have two conversations in one line. That is no problem here, as I take the result of func() and immediately call toHex() on it. But note that afterward neither the returned value of func() nor of toHex() exists anymore, only hex.

        And that is the whole problem, with data() you access the raw data of an object that's lifetime is already over.

        Regards

        Qt has to stay free or it will die.

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        • MozzieM Mozzie

          Env: vs2017 , Qt 5.14.0, Qt 5.12.6
          code:

          		QString s = "hello world";
          		qDebug() << s;
          		qDebug() << s.toUtf8().data();
          
          		char* p = s.toUtf8().data();
          		qDebug() << p;
          
          		QByteArray b = s.toUtf8();
          		p = b.data();
          		qDebug() << p;
          
          

          output:

          "hello world"
          hello world
          ????????????????????????????????????????????7
          hello world
          

          can somebody explain this, I'd be appreciate

          hskoglundH Offline
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          hskoglund
          wrote on last edited by
          #14

          @Mozzie You had a bit of bad luck, if you compile in Release mode instead of Debug it'll work fine

          "hello world"
          hello world
          hello world
          hello world
          

          And if you switch to MinGW compiler it'll work both in Debug and Release :-)

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          • Christian EhrlicherC Christian Ehrlicher

            @Mozzie said in can not print correctly after convert QString to char *:

            char* p = s.toUtf8().data();

            C++ basics - you're creating a temporary here so p points to garbage after this statement.

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            Mozzie
            wrote on last edited by
            #15

            @Christian-Ehrlicher
            Thank you very much, and thank other replyer.
            I think i understand your reply, and I do fogot the temp object , maybe because I also use java a lot.

            and i alse have a few questions:

            1. where is the temp object in memory, stack or heap or somewhere else.
            2. if it is on stack, it can not remain until the stack is finished
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            • hskoglundH hskoglund

              @Mozzie You had a bit of bad luck, if you compile in Release mode instead of Debug it'll work fine

              "hello world"
              hello world
              hello world
              hello world
              

              And if you switch to MinGW compiler it'll work both in Debug and Release :-)

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              JonB
              wrote on last edited by JonB
              #16

              @hskoglund
              Your findings are even more scary in view of the above conversation! :)

              @aha_1980 , and others
              I think I get it. Also that it's nothing to do with Qt specific classes. Not because of shared QByteArrays and stuff.

              So to summarize: s.toUtf8() only "lasts" for the lifetime of the statement (probably rather expression) it is in. But if you go QByteArray b = s.toUtf8() then the b will persist OK as usual. Right?

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              • hskoglundH hskoglund

                @Mozzie You had a bit of bad luck, if you compile in Release mode instead of Debug it'll work fine

                "hello world"
                hello world
                hello world
                hello world
                

                And if you switch to MinGW compiler it'll work both in Debug and Release :-)

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                aha_1980
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                wrote on last edited by
                #17

                @hskoglund said in can not print correctly after convert QString to char *:

                And if you switch to MinGW compiler it'll work both in Debug and Release :-)

                Today. Tomorrow it will run away with your wife, bankrupt your workplace and aim for world domination.

                t

                Qt has to stay free or it will die.

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                • JonBJ JonB

                  @hskoglund
                  Your findings are even more scary in view of the above conversation! :)

                  @aha_1980 , and others
                  I think I get it. Also that it's nothing to do with Qt specific classes. Not because of shared QByteArrays and stuff.

                  So to summarize: s.toUtf8() only "lasts" for the lifetime of the statement (probably rather expression) it is in. But if you go QByteArray b = s.toUtf8() then the b will persist OK as usual. Right?

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                  hskoglund
                  wrote on last edited by hskoglund
                  #18

                  Yes! I's just luck that the bits are still around in Release mode. The Debug mode output of ??????? could happen in Release also some other day when the sun doesn't shin.e

                  Anyway, one simple modification to make it waterproof could be:

                  QString s = "hello world";
                  qDebug() << s;
                  qDebug() << s.toUtf8().data();
                  
                  QByteArray a = s.toUtf8();
                  char* p = a.data();
                  qDebug() << p;
                  
                  QByteArray b = s.toUtf8();
                  p = b.data();
                  qDebug() << p;
                  

                  Edit: too fast, didn't read the code in the 3d paragraph ! But they are both waterproof now :-)

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                  • hskoglundH hskoglund

                    @Mozzie You had a bit of bad luck, if you compile in Release mode instead of Debug it'll work fine

                    "hello world"
                    hello world
                    hello world
                    hello world
                    

                    And if you switch to MinGW compiler it'll work both in Debug and Release :-)

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                    Mozzie
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #19

                    @hskoglund
                    that is interesting .
                    i dont have test on linux or MinGW, maybe vs and MinGW is diffrent on deal with temp object?

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                    • MozzieM Mozzie

                      @hskoglund
                      that is interesting .
                      i dont have test on linux or MinGW, maybe vs and MinGW is diffrent on deal with temp object?

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                      hskoglund
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #20

                      @Mozzie Actually MinGW works on Windows as well (I prefer it over MSVC2017 because MinGW compiles/builds my projects faster).

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                      • MozzieM Mozzie

                        @Christian-Ehrlicher
                        Thank you very much, and thank other replyer.
                        I think i understand your reply, and I do fogot the temp object , maybe because I also use java a lot.

                        and i alse have a few questions:

                        1. where is the temp object in memory, stack or heap or somewhere else.
                        2. if it is on stack, it can not remain until the stack is finished
                        Christian EhrlicherC Online
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                        Christian Ehrlicher
                        Lifetime Qt Champion
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #21

                        @Mozzie said in can not print correctly after convert QString to char *:

                        where is the temp object in memory, stack or heap or somewhere else.

                        It's on the stack since you did not allocate it with new

                        if it is on stack, it can not remain until the stack is finished

                        No, this is not allowed since it's unnamed.

                        It's also not c++ specific - you can do the same (in a little bit more obvious way) in C:

                        int *myPtr = nullptr;
                        {
                          int a = 3;
                          myPtr = &a;
                          printf("%d\n", *myPtr);   // works fine
                        }
                        printf("%d\n", *myPtr);   // works on garbage and may eat kitten
                        

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                        • Christian EhrlicherC Christian Ehrlicher

                          @Mozzie said in can not print correctly after convert QString to char *:

                          where is the temp object in memory, stack or heap or somewhere else.

                          It's on the stack since you did not allocate it with new

                          if it is on stack, it can not remain until the stack is finished

                          No, this is not allowed since it's unnamed.

                          It's also not c++ specific - you can do the same (in a little bit more obvious way) in C:

                          int *myPtr = nullptr;
                          {
                            int a = 3;
                            myPtr = &a;
                            printf("%d\n", *myPtr);   // works fine
                          }
                          printf("%d\n", *myPtr);   // works on garbage and may eat kitten
                          
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                          wrote on last edited by JonB
                          #22

                          @Christian-Ehrlicher said in can not print correctly after convert QString to char *:

                          int *myPtr = nullptr;

                          Never heard of nullptr in C ;-) NULL was much nicer to read anyway.

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                          • JonBJ JonB

                            @aha_1980
                            Wow, OK, yes, I need to read! My problem is I have been "spoiled" by using C# and then Python/PyQt/PySide2 for so long now that I rarely have to think about this!

                            So let's take a basic, if my C++ holds up. If I write a function

                            QByteArray func()
                            {
                                QByteArray qb;
                                return qb;
                            }
                            

                            does that return such a "temporary object"? And that would be true for any class/struct I decalred and then returned in that fashion?

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                            • Christian EhrlicherC Christian Ehrlicher

                              @Mozzie said in can not print correctly after convert QString to char *:

                              where is the temp object in memory, stack or heap or somewhere else.

                              It's on the stack since you did not allocate it with new

                              if it is on stack, it can not remain until the stack is finished

                              No, this is not allowed since it's unnamed.

                              It's also not c++ specific - you can do the same (in a little bit more obvious way) in C:

                              int *myPtr = nullptr;
                              {
                                int a = 3;
                                myPtr = &a;
                                printf("%d\n", *myPtr);   // works fine
                              }
                              printf("%d\n", *myPtr);   // works on garbage and may eat kitten
                              
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                              Mozzie
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #24

                              @Christian-Ehrlicher
                              thanks, it helped a lot.
                              and i have a hunch

                              {//main stack
                              	QString s = "hello world";
                              	char* p = nullptr;
                              	{// toUtf8()
                              		QByteArray b = s.toUtf8();
                              		{// data();
                              			p = b.data();
                              			qDebug() << p; // does this is same as "qDebug() << s.toUtf8().data();"
                              		}
                              	}
                              	// b is freed
                              	qDebug() << p; // this is same as "char * p = s.toUtf8().data(); qDebug() << p;"
                              }
                              

                              does this right?

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                              • JonBJ JonB

                                @Christian-Ehrlicher said in can not print correctly after convert QString to char *:

                                int *myPtr = nullptr;

                                Never heard of nullptr in C ;-) NULL was much nicer to read anyway.

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                                Mozzie
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #25

                                @JonB
                                nullptr is a c++11 key word, you can still use NULL, but NULL is defined as 0, sometimes it may cause some problem.

                                such as:

                                
                                void test(int *p)
                                {
                                	qDebug() << "int *";
                                }
                                void test(int i)
                                {
                                	qDebug() << "int";
                                }
                                test(NULL);
                                test(nullptr);
                                

                                output

                                int
                                int *
                                
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                                • MozzieM Mozzie

                                  @JonB
                                  nullptr is a c++11 key word, you can still use NULL, but NULL is defined as 0, sometimes it may cause some problem.

                                  such as:

                                  
                                  void test(int *p)
                                  {
                                  	qDebug() << "int *";
                                  }
                                  void test(int i)
                                  {
                                  	qDebug() << "int";
                                  }
                                  test(NULL);
                                  test(nullptr);
                                  

                                  output

                                  int
                                  int *
                                  
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                                  JonB
                                  wrote on last edited by JonB
                                  #26

                                  @Mozzie
                                  I know this :) That's why I was picking @Christian-Ehrlicher on his use of nullptr in his C program, it was just intended for amusement ;-)

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                                  • MozzieM Mozzie

                                    @Christian-Ehrlicher
                                    thanks, it helped a lot.
                                    and i have a hunch

                                    {//main stack
                                    	QString s = "hello world";
                                    	char* p = nullptr;
                                    	{// toUtf8()
                                    		QByteArray b = s.toUtf8();
                                    		{// data();
                                    			p = b.data();
                                    			qDebug() << p; // does this is same as "qDebug() << s.toUtf8().data();"
                                    		}
                                    	}
                                    	// b is freed
                                    	qDebug() << p; // this is same as "char * p = s.toUtf8().data(); qDebug() << p;"
                                    }
                                    

                                    does this right?

                                    Christian EhrlicherC Online
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                                    Christian Ehrlicher
                                    Lifetime Qt Champion
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #27

                                    @Mozzie said in can not print correctly after convert QString to char *:

                                    does this right?

                                    Yes, exactly.

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                                    • Christian EhrlicherC Christian Ehrlicher

                                      @Mozzie said in can not print correctly after convert QString to char *:

                                      does this right?

                                      Yes, exactly.

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                                      Mozzie
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #28

                                      @Christian-Ehrlicher
                                      thanks.

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