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  • MozzieM Mozzie

    Env: vs2017 , Qt 5.14.0, Qt 5.12.6
    code:

    		QString s = "hello world";
    		qDebug() << s;
    		qDebug() << s.toUtf8().data();
    
    		char* p = s.toUtf8().data();
    		qDebug() << p;
    
    		QByteArray b = s.toUtf8();
    		p = b.data();
    		qDebug() << p;
    
    

    output:

    "hello world"
    hello world
    ????????????????????????????????????????????7
    hello world
    

    can somebody explain this, I'd be appreciate

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    @Mozzie
    For your

    		char* p = s.toUtf8().data();
    		qDebug() << p;
    
    ????????
    

    case. https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qbytearray.html#data

    Returns a pointer to the data stored in the byte array.
    The pointer remains valid as long as the byte array isn't reallocated or destroyed.

    I think it is, between the two lines. That s.toUtf8() looks temporary-ish to me. Use it on one ;line, or give it permanent variable QByteArray b = s.toUtf8(); like you do afterwards, and I think you remove its temporary-ness.

    Note

    For read-only access, constData() is faster because it never causes a deep copy to occur.

    I don't know, but try:

    const char* p = s.toUtf8().data();
    

    Any difference in output?

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    • JonBJ JonB

      @Mozzie
      For your

      		char* p = s.toUtf8().data();
      		qDebug() << p;
      
      ????????
      

      case. https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qbytearray.html#data

      Returns a pointer to the data stored in the byte array.
      The pointer remains valid as long as the byte array isn't reallocated or destroyed.

      I think it is, between the two lines. That s.toUtf8() looks temporary-ish to me. Use it on one ;line, or give it permanent variable QByteArray b = s.toUtf8(); like you do afterwards, and I think you remove its temporary-ness.

      Note

      For read-only access, constData() is faster because it never causes a deep copy to occur.

      I don't know, but try:

      const char* p = s.toUtf8().data();
      

      Any difference in output?

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      Christian Ehrlicher
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      wrote on last edited by
      #5

      @JonB said in can not print correctly after convert QString to char *:

      Any difference in output?

      For sure not.

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      • Christian EhrlicherC Christian Ehrlicher

        @Mozzie said in can not print correctly after convert QString to char *:

        char* p = s.toUtf8().data();

        C++ basics - you're creating a temporary here so p points to garbage after this statement.

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        JonB
        wrote on last edited by JonB
        #6

        @Christian-Ehrlicher said in can not print correctly after convert QString to char *:

        C++ basics - you're creating a temporary here so p points to garbage after this statement.

        OK then, let's pick you up on the exactitiudes of this. https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qbytearray.html#data states:

        The pointer remains valid as long as the byte array isn't reallocated or destroyed.

        Are you saying the s.toUtf8() is returning a temporary, or going .data() is a temporary?

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        • JonBJ JonB

          @Christian-Ehrlicher said in can not print correctly after convert QString to char *:

          C++ basics - you're creating a temporary here so p points to garbage after this statement.

          OK then, let's pick you up on the exactitiudes of this. https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qbytearray.html#data states:

          The pointer remains valid as long as the byte array isn't reallocated or destroyed.

          Are you saying the s.toUtf8() is returning a temporary, or going .data() is a temporary?

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          VRonin
          wrote on last edited by VRonin
          #7

          @JonB said in can not print correctly after convert QString to char *:

          Are you saying the s.toUtf8() is returning a temporary, or going .data() is a temporary?

          The former

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          • VRoninV VRonin

            @JonB said in can not print correctly after convert QString to char *:

            Are you saying the s.toUtf8() is returning a temporary, or going .data() is a temporary?

            The former

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            JonB
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            #8

            @VRonin
            Fine. So I carefully read https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qstring.html#toUtf8

            Returns a UTF-8 representation of the string as a QByteArray.

            @Christian-Ehrlicher says the question/code is "C++ basics". I do not see the word "temporary" there. In fact I search the whole of QString doc page and don't find it. So how do I know this, please?

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            • JonBJ JonB

              @VRonin
              Fine. So I carefully read https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qstring.html#toUtf8

              Returns a UTF-8 representation of the string as a QByteArray.

              @Christian-Ehrlicher says the question/code is "C++ basics". I do not see the word "temporary" there. In fact I search the whole of QString doc page and don't find it. So how do I know this, please?

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              aha_1980
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              wrote on last edited by
              #9

              Hi @JonB,

              as @Christian-Ehrlicher said, that is C++ basics: https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/language/lifetime

              Regards

              Qt has to stay free or it will die.

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              • aha_1980A aha_1980

                Hi @JonB,

                as @Christian-Ehrlicher said, that is C++ basics: https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/language/lifetime

                Regards

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                JonB
                wrote on last edited by JonB
                #10

                @aha_1980
                Wow, OK, yes, I need to read! My problem is I have been "spoiled" by using C# and then Python/PyQt/PySide2 for so long now that I rarely have to think about this!

                So let's take a basic, if my C++ holds up. If I write a function

                QByteArray func()
                {
                    QByteArray qb;
                    return qb;
                }
                

                does that return such a "temporary object"? And that would be true for any class/struct I decalred and then returned in that fashion?

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                  Christian Ehrlicher
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                  @JonB said in can not print correctly after convert QString to char *:

                  does that return such a "temporary object"?

                  It's not about returning something. It's about the lifetime of an object.

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                  • Christian EhrlicherC Christian Ehrlicher

                    @JonB said in can not print correctly after convert QString to char *:

                    does that return such a "temporary object"?

                    It's not about returning something. It's about the lifetime of an object.

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                    JonB
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #12

                    @Christian-Ehrlicher

                    Temporary objects are created when a prvalue is materialized so that it can be used as a glvalue, which occurs (since C++17) in the following situations:

                    Lovely!

                    I also note its second item is:

                    returning a prvalue from a function

                    Is that where we are here? I'm not stupid, but I am clearly struggling to recognise which situations this applies in.... :(

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                    • JonBJ JonB

                      @aha_1980
                      Wow, OK, yes, I need to read! My problem is I have been "spoiled" by using C# and then Python/PyQt/PySide2 for so long now that I rarely have to think about this!

                      So let's take a basic, if my C++ holds up. If I write a function

                      QByteArray func()
                      {
                          QByteArray qb;
                          return qb;
                      }
                      

                      does that return such a "temporary object"? And that would be true for any class/struct I decalred and then returned in that fashion?

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                      aha_1980
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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #13

                      Hi @JonB,

                      if I take your example and do the following: QByteArray ba = func(); then ba lives until it goes out of scope. But if I do QByteArray hex = func().toHex() I have two conversations in one line. That is no problem here, as I take the result of func() and immediately call toHex() on it. But note that afterward neither the returned value of func() nor of toHex() exists anymore, only hex.

                      And that is the whole problem, with data() you access the raw data of an object that's lifetime is already over.

                      Regards

                      Qt has to stay free or it will die.

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                      • MozzieM Mozzie

                        Env: vs2017 , Qt 5.14.0, Qt 5.12.6
                        code:

                        		QString s = "hello world";
                        		qDebug() << s;
                        		qDebug() << s.toUtf8().data();
                        
                        		char* p = s.toUtf8().data();
                        		qDebug() << p;
                        
                        		QByteArray b = s.toUtf8();
                        		p = b.data();
                        		qDebug() << p;
                        
                        

                        output:

                        "hello world"
                        hello world
                        ????????????????????????????????????????????7
                        hello world
                        

                        can somebody explain this, I'd be appreciate

                        hskoglundH Offline
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                        hskoglund
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #14

                        @Mozzie You had a bit of bad luck, if you compile in Release mode instead of Debug it'll work fine

                        "hello world"
                        hello world
                        hello world
                        hello world
                        

                        And if you switch to MinGW compiler it'll work both in Debug and Release :-)

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                        • Christian EhrlicherC Christian Ehrlicher

                          @Mozzie said in can not print correctly after convert QString to char *:

                          char* p = s.toUtf8().data();

                          C++ basics - you're creating a temporary here so p points to garbage after this statement.

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                          Mozzie
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #15

                          @Christian-Ehrlicher
                          Thank you very much, and thank other replyer.
                          I think i understand your reply, and I do fogot the temp object , maybe because I also use java a lot.

                          and i alse have a few questions:

                          1. where is the temp object in memory, stack or heap or somewhere else.
                          2. if it is on stack, it can not remain until the stack is finished
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                          • hskoglundH hskoglund

                            @Mozzie You had a bit of bad luck, if you compile in Release mode instead of Debug it'll work fine

                            "hello world"
                            hello world
                            hello world
                            hello world
                            

                            And if you switch to MinGW compiler it'll work both in Debug and Release :-)

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                            JonB
                            wrote on last edited by JonB
                            #16

                            @hskoglund
                            Your findings are even more scary in view of the above conversation! :)

                            @aha_1980 , and others
                            I think I get it. Also that it's nothing to do with Qt specific classes. Not because of shared QByteArrays and stuff.

                            So to summarize: s.toUtf8() only "lasts" for the lifetime of the statement (probably rather expression) it is in. But if you go QByteArray b = s.toUtf8() then the b will persist OK as usual. Right?

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                            • hskoglundH hskoglund

                              @Mozzie You had a bit of bad luck, if you compile in Release mode instead of Debug it'll work fine

                              "hello world"
                              hello world
                              hello world
                              hello world
                              

                              And if you switch to MinGW compiler it'll work both in Debug and Release :-)

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                              aha_1980
                              Lifetime Qt Champion
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #17

                              @hskoglund said in can not print correctly after convert QString to char *:

                              And if you switch to MinGW compiler it'll work both in Debug and Release :-)

                              Today. Tomorrow it will run away with your wife, bankrupt your workplace and aim for world domination.

                              t

                              Qt has to stay free or it will die.

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                              • JonBJ JonB

                                @hskoglund
                                Your findings are even more scary in view of the above conversation! :)

                                @aha_1980 , and others
                                I think I get it. Also that it's nothing to do with Qt specific classes. Not because of shared QByteArrays and stuff.

                                So to summarize: s.toUtf8() only "lasts" for the lifetime of the statement (probably rather expression) it is in. But if you go QByteArray b = s.toUtf8() then the b will persist OK as usual. Right?

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                                hskoglund
                                wrote on last edited by hskoglund
                                #18

                                Yes! I's just luck that the bits are still around in Release mode. The Debug mode output of ??????? could happen in Release also some other day when the sun doesn't shin.e

                                Anyway, one simple modification to make it waterproof could be:

                                QString s = "hello world";
                                qDebug() << s;
                                qDebug() << s.toUtf8().data();
                                
                                QByteArray a = s.toUtf8();
                                char* p = a.data();
                                qDebug() << p;
                                
                                QByteArray b = s.toUtf8();
                                p = b.data();
                                qDebug() << p;
                                

                                Edit: too fast, didn't read the code in the 3d paragraph ! But they are both waterproof now :-)

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                                • hskoglundH hskoglund

                                  @Mozzie You had a bit of bad luck, if you compile in Release mode instead of Debug it'll work fine

                                  "hello world"
                                  hello world
                                  hello world
                                  hello world
                                  

                                  And if you switch to MinGW compiler it'll work both in Debug and Release :-)

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                                  Mozzie
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #19

                                  @hskoglund
                                  that is interesting .
                                  i dont have test on linux or MinGW, maybe vs and MinGW is diffrent on deal with temp object?

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                                  • MozzieM Mozzie

                                    @hskoglund
                                    that is interesting .
                                    i dont have test on linux or MinGW, maybe vs and MinGW is diffrent on deal with temp object?

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                                    hskoglund
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #20

                                    @Mozzie Actually MinGW works on Windows as well (I prefer it over MSVC2017 because MinGW compiles/builds my projects faster).

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                                    • MozzieM Mozzie

                                      @Christian-Ehrlicher
                                      Thank you very much, and thank other replyer.
                                      I think i understand your reply, and I do fogot the temp object , maybe because I also use java a lot.

                                      and i alse have a few questions:

                                      1. where is the temp object in memory, stack or heap or somewhere else.
                                      2. if it is on stack, it can not remain until the stack is finished
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                                      Christian Ehrlicher
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                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #21

                                      @Mozzie said in can not print correctly after convert QString to char *:

                                      where is the temp object in memory, stack or heap or somewhere else.

                                      It's on the stack since you did not allocate it with new

                                      if it is on stack, it can not remain until the stack is finished

                                      No, this is not allowed since it's unnamed.

                                      It's also not c++ specific - you can do the same (in a little bit more obvious way) in C:

                                      int *myPtr = nullptr;
                                      {
                                        int a = 3;
                                        myPtr = &a;
                                        printf("%d\n", *myPtr);   // works fine
                                      }
                                      printf("%d\n", *myPtr);   // works on garbage and may eat kitten
                                      

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                                      • Christian EhrlicherC Christian Ehrlicher

                                        @Mozzie said in can not print correctly after convert QString to char *:

                                        where is the temp object in memory, stack or heap or somewhere else.

                                        It's on the stack since you did not allocate it with new

                                        if it is on stack, it can not remain until the stack is finished

                                        No, this is not allowed since it's unnamed.

                                        It's also not c++ specific - you can do the same (in a little bit more obvious way) in C:

                                        int *myPtr = nullptr;
                                        {
                                          int a = 3;
                                          myPtr = &a;
                                          printf("%d\n", *myPtr);   // works fine
                                        }
                                        printf("%d\n", *myPtr);   // works on garbage and may eat kitten
                                        
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                                        JonB
                                        wrote on last edited by JonB
                                        #22

                                        @Christian-Ehrlicher said in can not print correctly after convert QString to char *:

                                        int *myPtr = nullptr;

                                        Never heard of nullptr in C ;-) NULL was much nicer to read anyway.

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                                        • JonBJ JonB

                                          @aha_1980
                                          Wow, OK, yes, I need to read! My problem is I have been "spoiled" by using C# and then Python/PyQt/PySide2 for so long now that I rarely have to think about this!

                                          So let's take a basic, if my C++ holds up. If I write a function

                                          QByteArray func()
                                          {
                                              QByteArray qb;
                                              return qb;
                                          }
                                          

                                          does that return such a "temporary object"? And that would be true for any class/struct I decalred and then returned in that fashion?

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