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  • A aethelnorn

    Ok thanks both... sorry for the slow reply but I have only just seen this (I was expecting the forum to email me when a reply came in. Must have done something wrong).

    Not at my home 'puter at present but this is what I did:

    1. create/use example project analogue clock
    2. show that I could run it desktop, iOS simulator, android simulator.
    3. use 'add directory' to add my c files to the source tree, same to add my h files to the header tree. I did not attempt to call any of my C from Qt.
    4. Compile now fails with '.jinclude.h' not found in one of my C source files. (jinclude.h is just one of many includes in my C code) - And I checked, it really is there.

    So guess that it could be the need to include the 'extern "C"' thing, but as none of the CPP code references the C code is this really the cause? It is a long time since I coded CPP and C for real (apart from this latest endeavour) so my skills are very rusty. I am assuming that I am making a very obvious mistake due to being new to QT or rusty with C/CPP.

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    mrjj
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    @aethelnorn
    the c files and its h are in same folder as the qt pro file ?
    else you might need to add the .h files to
    HEADERS
    for it to see them.

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      @aethelnorn
      the c files and its h are in same folder as the qt pro file ?
      else you might need to add the .h files to
      HEADERS
      for it to see them.

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      @mrjj No. I think I added the files as external directory references - I could not drag the files from the finder (MacOS) to the Qt IDE, and found the right-click menu option to add files in external folder. [I would remove these if I could, but the only way seems to be individually :-(. ]] The files appear in the source tree in QT under the directory structure that I added.

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      • A aethelnorn

        @mrjj No. I think I added the files as external directory references - I could not drag the files from the finder (MacOS) to the Qt IDE, and found the right-click menu option to add files in external folder. [I would remove these if I could, but the only way seems to be individually :-(. ]] The files appear in the source tree in QT under the directory structure that I added.

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        @aethelnorn
        ok if you includes are not like
        "folder/filename.h"
        you need to use the HEADERS to tell where to look.

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          OK, thnks, that sounds about right. This is what I have:
          alt text

          the errors include:

          /Users/phill/dev/SmugglerMac/SmugglerMac/core/smuggler/smugbase.h:14: error: 'jinclude.h' file not found
          #include "jinclude.h"
          ^~~~~~~~~~~~

          I am happy to remove the files from the tree (if I knew how) and add them directly to the project, but I am also happy for them to stay where they are too.

          Where do I set HEADERS?

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            OK, thnks, that sounds about right. This is what I have:
            alt text

            the errors include:

            /Users/phill/dev/SmugglerMac/SmugglerMac/core/smuggler/smugbase.h:14: error: 'jinclude.h' file not found
            #include "jinclude.h"
            ^~~~~~~~~~~~

            I am happy to remove the files from the tree (if I knew how) and add them directly to the project, but I am also happy for them to stay where they are too.

            Where do I set HEADERS?

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            @aethelnorn
            Hi
            In that case
            http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qmake-variable-reference.html#headers
            INCLUDEPATH
            is the one you are after.
            You add it to the .pro file.
            Make sure to run qmake in menu after.
            you can use absolute paths or relatives.

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              Thanks, that helps some.

              That .pro file is the centre of things isnt it?. I can add and remove files in there manually? As long as I run QMake after?

              I added:

              INCLUDEPATH = ../../../../../SmugglerMac/SmugglerMac/core/libjpeg ../../../../../SmugglerMac/SmugglerMac/core/smuggler/aes ../../../../../SmugglerMac/SmugglerMac/core/smuggler

              and now get :

              -1: error: symbol(s) not found for architecture x86_64
              :-1: error: linker command failed with exit code 1 (use -v to see invocation)

              I am building desktop Qt 5.12.0 clang 64bit

              should I have appended to the existing INCLUDEPATH somehow rather than declaring it as I did?

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              • A aethelnorn

                Thanks, that helps some.

                That .pro file is the centre of things isnt it?. I can add and remove files in there manually? As long as I run QMake after?

                I added:

                INCLUDEPATH = ../../../../../SmugglerMac/SmugglerMac/core/libjpeg ../../../../../SmugglerMac/SmugglerMac/core/smuggler/aes ../../../../../SmugglerMac/SmugglerMac/core/smuggler

                and now get :

                -1: error: symbol(s) not found for architecture x86_64
                :-1: error: linker command failed with exit code 1 (use -v to see invocation)

                I am building desktop Qt 5.12.0 clang 64bit

                should I have appended to the existing INCLUDEPATH somehow rather than declaring it as I did?

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                @aethelnorn
                Hi
                Yes you can edit .pro file manually all you want. Its the project file and
                defines how to build a project.
                if you have an existing INCLUDEPATH
                then please do
                INCLUDEPATH += ../xxxxxx
                so you dont override the already set values.

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                • mrjjM mrjj

                  @aethelnorn
                  Hi
                  Yes you can edit .pro file manually all you want. Its the project file and
                  defines how to build a project.
                  if you have an existing INCLUDEPATH
                  then please do
                  INCLUDEPATH += ../xxxxxx
                  so you dont override the already set values.

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                  @mrjj I tried the += but it made no difference.

                  I deleted all my 'extra' files from .pro, and it all compiles and runs again.

                  So something in my C files is interfering with the make to give the linker error. That is me flummoxed, as most of the files are open source and so I do not want to modify them (even if I did understand them). It would be a shame if the project failed at this point, because I am impressed with what I have seen of Qt so far.

                  The only thing that I can imagine is that one of the component projects is jpeg-9c which had a qmake system of its own, and may have generated some of the header files in a way that confuses qmake in Qt? I can drop the exact same set of files into XCode swift project and they compile a treat (iOS or MacOS). I have also compiled them inside android studio and accessed them through JNI.

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                    @mrjj I tried the += but it made no difference.

                    I deleted all my 'extra' files from .pro, and it all compiles and runs again.

                    So something in my C files is interfering with the make to give the linker error. That is me flummoxed, as most of the files are open source and so I do not want to modify them (even if I did understand them). It would be a shame if the project failed at this point, because I am impressed with what I have seen of Qt so far.

                    The only thing that I can imagine is that one of the component projects is jpeg-9c which had a qmake system of its own, and may have generated some of the header files in a way that confuses qmake in Qt? I can drop the exact same set of files into XCode swift project and they compile a treat (iOS or MacOS). I have also compiled them inside android studio and accessed them through JNI.

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                    @aethelnorn
                    well did you include more than .h and .c files ?
                    Like dylib file or someting like that ?
                    If all the c files compiles its a good sign.

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                      @aethelnorn
                      well did you include more than .h and .c files ?
                      Like dylib file or someting like that ?
                      If all the c files compiles its a good sign.

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                      @mrjj Nothing but .c and .h added, I used grep and none of the files contained the text "x86_64"

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                      • A aethelnorn

                        @mrjj Nothing but .c and .h added, I used grep and none of the files contained the text "x86_64"

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                        @aethelnorn
                        Ok, can you check the output pane to find out what exactly fails ?
                        like here
                        https://stackoverflow.com/questions/18973042/symbols-not-found-for-architecture-x86-64-on-qtcreator-project

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                          @mrjj But yes, compile is a big step forward.

                          I have looked at the stackOverflow article, and I think you are onto something there a symbol (an array) is not being found. However the array is #defined to something else (in a #ifdef and I do not know if that evaluates true at that point). Lots of other breaks in that file which makes me surprised that it compiles. Maybe the compile fails do not prevent linking as here are lots of platform-alternates here.

                          jpeg-9c has a lot of macros etc to allow multiplatform and it looks as if the Qt build system is choking on them. So am I to be honest - too many levels of indirection spread across too many files.

                          I need to break off for now, but I will be back tomorrow after a rest. Maybe I will gain some more clarity with a new look in the morning. Thanks for your help so far - it is much appreciated.

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                            @mrjj But yes, compile is a big step forward.

                            I have looked at the stackOverflow article, and I think you are onto something there a symbol (an array) is not being found. However the array is #defined to something else (in a #ifdef and I do not know if that evaluates true at that point). Lots of other breaks in that file which makes me surprised that it compiles. Maybe the compile fails do not prevent linking as here are lots of platform-alternates here.

                            jpeg-9c has a lot of macros etc to allow multiplatform and it looks as if the Qt build system is choking on them. So am I to be honest - too many levels of indirection spread across too many files.

                            I need to break off for now, but I will be back tomorrow after a rest. Maybe I will gain some more clarity with a new look in the morning. Thanks for your help so far - it is much appreciated.

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                            @aethelnorn
                            the c code might have some
                            ifdef
                            ..code..
                            endif
                            that should be defined for it to link.
                            Note that Creator should show if a define is enabled

                            alt text

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                            • A aethelnorn

                              @mrjj But yes, compile is a big step forward.

                              I have looked at the stackOverflow article, and I think you are onto something there a symbol (an array) is not being found. However the array is #defined to something else (in a #ifdef and I do not know if that evaluates true at that point). Lots of other breaks in that file which makes me surprised that it compiles. Maybe the compile fails do not prevent linking as here are lots of platform-alternates here.

                              jpeg-9c has a lot of macros etc to allow multiplatform and it looks as if the Qt build system is choking on them. So am I to be honest - too many levels of indirection spread across too many files.

                              I need to break off for now, but I will be back tomorrow after a rest. Maybe I will gain some more clarity with a new look in the morning. Thanks for your help so far - it is much appreciated.

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                              @aethelnorn while it in principle possible to compile everything with qmake, the question arises if the external libs should be build with their 'native' buildsystem and just be linked into your project.

                              At least thats the way most projects handle it, an thats also cleanest regarding licenses (GPL e.g.)

                              Qt has to stay free or it will die.

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                                @aethelnorn
                                the c code might have some
                                ifdef
                                ..code..
                                endif
                                that should be defined for it to link.
                                Note that Creator should show if a define is enabled

                                alt text

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                                aethelnorn
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                                @mrjj That is a handy tip - it is 20 years since I coded C/C++ I have been spoiled by Java. Any help from the tools is more than welcome.

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                                  @aethelnorn while it in principle possible to compile everything with qmake, the question arises if the external libs should be build with their 'native' buildsystem and just be linked into your project.

                                  At least thats the way most projects handle it, an thats also cleanest regarding licenses (GPL e.g.)

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                                  aethelnorn
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                                  @aha_1980 I can see where you are coming from, but to compile the library first I have to install and understand all the cross-platform compiling technology. This is not something that attracts me. I was hoping that I could delegate that work to Qt. If I need to precompile the libraries then I have two projects (Qt and cross compile system) instead of one. That is very little improvement over my current solution (Xcode & Android projects) and requires extra learning.

                                  If I can convert an automake project into a Qt project that might help - jpeg-9c is set up for automake. Two Qt projects would be an attractive solution. As this is a private project I will need to wait until this evening to give it some more time.

                                  As for licensing, both the open source projects I use are very permissive, and the resultant code when finished will be open-sourced (GPL3 most likely if Qt is part of the solution).

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                                    @aha_1980 I can see where you are coming from, but to compile the library first I have to install and understand all the cross-platform compiling technology. This is not something that attracts me. I was hoping that I could delegate that work to Qt. If I need to precompile the libraries then I have two projects (Qt and cross compile system) instead of one. That is very little improvement over my current solution (Xcode & Android projects) and requires extra learning.

                                    If I can convert an automake project into a Qt project that might help - jpeg-9c is set up for automake. Two Qt projects would be an attractive solution. As this is a private project I will need to wait until this evening to give it some more time.

                                    As for licensing, both the open source projects I use are very permissive, and the resultant code when finished will be open-sourced (GPL3 most likely if Qt is part of the solution).

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                                    @aethelnorn said in Newbie question - using C:

                                    If I can convert an automake project into a Qt project that might help - jpeg-9c is set up for automake

                                    Yes, you can do that - I did the same with net-snmp some weeks ago. I have to say it took me 1-2 days to do so, because I throw away automake and therefore had to do all the platform decisions to set defines and compile/exclude C files myself. Advantage is now, that I can cross-compile for ARM immediately - it seems you aim for the same.

                                    I would really recommend you to separate these libraries from your own project, i.e. create separate .pro files for them.

                                    Afterwards you can glue all together with a top-level SUBDIRs pro file.

                                    Regards

                                    Qt has to stay free or it will die.

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                                      @aethelnorn said in Newbie question - using C:

                                      If I can convert an automake project into a Qt project that might help - jpeg-9c is set up for automake

                                      Yes, you can do that - I did the same with net-snmp some weeks ago. I have to say it took me 1-2 days to do so, because I throw away automake and therefore had to do all the platform decisions to set defines and compile/exclude C files myself. Advantage is now, that I can cross-compile for ARM immediately - it seems you aim for the same.

                                      I would really recommend you to separate these libraries from your own project, i.e. create separate .pro files for them.

                                      Afterwards you can glue all together with a top-level SUBDIRs pro file.

                                      Regards

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                                      @aha_1980 That sounds like a very promising approach. Where would I find some literature on how to convert an automake project into a .pro project. Assume my skill level is 'inexperienced'. The jpeg-9c library needs to be converted. The TinyAES library is just one C and one H file, so is likely not worth converting.

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                                        @aha_1980 That sounds like a very promising approach. Where would I find some literature on how to convert an automake project into a .pro project. Assume my skill level is 'inexperienced'. The jpeg-9c library needs to be converted. The TinyAES library is just one C and one H file, so is likely not worth converting.

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                                        @aethelnorn

                                        Unfortunately, I'm not aware of some conversion step-by-step tutorial...

                                        Assume my skill level is 'inexperienced'.

                                        That is not the best start point, but if you are willing to learn still manageable. You'll have a better understanding of the qmake build process afterwards.

                                        The jpeg-9c library needs to be converted.

                                        I'd start with building the library on your host system with the usual way, probably

                                        ./configure --your-wanted-options-here
                                        make
                                        

                                        You should carefully watch the build log and note the compiler switches and defines passed to the source files. You will later need to pass them from qmake.

                                        Then set up a new qmake project (best in a separate folder) by qmake -project. That will fill the SOURCES and HEADERS field in the pro file for you. You may need to change TEMPLATE=lib and then add QMAKE_CFLAGS as well as DEFINES to imitate the original build.

                                        Start with the small library to gain some experience, then try the bigger one.

                                        Good luck!

                                        Qt has to stay free or it will die.

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                                          @aethelnorn

                                          Unfortunately, I'm not aware of some conversion step-by-step tutorial...

                                          Assume my skill level is 'inexperienced'.

                                          That is not the best start point, but if you are willing to learn still manageable. You'll have a better understanding of the qmake build process afterwards.

                                          The jpeg-9c library needs to be converted.

                                          I'd start with building the library on your host system with the usual way, probably

                                          ./configure --your-wanted-options-here
                                          make
                                          

                                          You should carefully watch the build log and note the compiler switches and defines passed to the source files. You will later need to pass them from qmake.

                                          Then set up a new qmake project (best in a separate folder) by qmake -project. That will fill the SOURCES and HEADERS field in the pro file for you. You may need to change TEMPLATE=lib and then add QMAKE_CFLAGS as well as DEFINES to imitate the original build.

                                          Start with the small library to gain some experience, then try the bigger one.

                                          Good luck!

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                                          @aha_1980 said in Newbie question - using C:

                                          @aethelnorn

                                          Unfortunately, I'm not aware of some conversion step-by-step tutorial...

                                          Assume my skill level is 'inexperienced'.

                                          That is not the best start point, but if you are willing to learn still manageable. You'll have a better understanding of the qmake build process afterwards.

                                          But it is the best starting point for learning something new. Easier to fill an empty cup..... I am not afraid of learning new stuff - I am in my fifth decade of coding, still learning stuff just getting slower.

                                          The jpeg-9c library needs to be converted.

                                          I'd start with building the library on your host system with the usual way, probably

                                          ./configure --your-wanted-options-here
                                          make
                                          

                                          You should carefully watch the build log and note the compiler switches and defines passed to the source files. You will later need to pass them from qmake.

                                          Then set up a new qmake project (best in a separate folder) by qmake -project. That will fill the SOURCES and HEADERS field in the pro file for you. You may need to change TEMPLATE=lib and then add QMAKE_CFLAGS as well as DEFINES to imitate the original build.

                                          Sounds feasible. I will have to tease out several features - jpeg-9c contains both library and command line utility source in one dir/make system, and I only want the library. Still it is a promising way forward.

                                          Start with the small library to gain some experience, then try the bigger one.

                                          Smaller library is not automake, just make - so likely will be misleadingly simple. But it will introduce me to creating a .pro library

                                          Good luck!

                                          Thanks, and thank you for your help (and the others on this thread). I will give this a try over the weekend and report back.

                                          Aethelnorn

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