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  • dheerendraD Offline
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    dheerendra
    Qt Champions 2022
    wrote on last edited by
    #7

    Your semaphores are not same. You are acquiring one semaphore and releasing another. This is the reason your threads are locked. Do like the follows.

                         addSem.acquire();
                          c = a + b;
                         addSem.release();
    

    Dheerendra
    @Community Service
    Certified Qt Specialist
    http://www.pthinks.com

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    • dheerendraD dheerendra

      Your semaphores are not same. You are acquiring one semaphore and releasing another. This is the reason your threads are locked. Do like the follows.

                           addSem.acquire();
                            c = a + b;
                           addSem.release();
      
      ManiRonM Offline
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      ManiRon
      wrote on last edited by
      #8

      @dheerendra

      but i have two thread running the how i can make it to acquire ?

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      • dheerendraD dheerendra

        Your semaphores are not same. You are acquiring one semaphore and releasing another. This is the reason your threads are locked. Do like the follows.

                             addSem.acquire();
                              c = a + b;
                             addSem.release();
        
        ManiRonM Offline
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        ManiRon
        wrote on last edited by
        #9

        @dheerendra

        I tried the way u told sir, Still that problem is not solved

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        • dheerendraD Offline
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          dheerendra
          Qt Champions 2022
          wrote on last edited by
          #10

          Can you show me where are you creating the semaphore object ?

          Dheerendra
          @Community Service
          Certified Qt Specialist
          http://www.pthinks.com

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          • dheerendraD dheerendra

            Can you show me where are you creating the semaphore object ?

            ManiRonM Offline
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            ManiRon
            wrote on last edited by
            #11

            @dheerendra said in Trying to understand semaphore:

            semaphore

            its created seperately in a file

             extern QSemaphore addSem;
             extern QSemaphore disSem;
            

            But globally defined in MainWindow.cpp

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            • dheerendraD Offline
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              dheerendra
              Qt Champions 2022
              wrote on last edited by dheerendra
              #12

              I felt you are complicating it. Just create the QSemaphore addSem(1). You are not initialising the semaphore count. As simple stuff create the QSemaphore addSem(1) in main.cpp. Pass addSem to both the thread class.

              Please note as @jsulm said, all this is not required. Since you would like to understand, we are showing you how to doit.

              Another point is that - You better read how semaphores work in general. This understanding is must.

              Dheerendra
              @Community Service
              Certified Qt Specialist
              http://www.pthinks.com

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              • dheerendraD dheerendra

                I felt you are complicating it. Just create the QSemaphore addSem(1). You are not initialising the semaphore count. As simple stuff create the QSemaphore addSem(1) in main.cpp. Pass addSem to both the thread class.

                Please note as @jsulm said, all this is not required. Since you would like to understand, we are showing you how to doit.

                Another point is that - You better read how semaphores work in general. This understanding is must.

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                ManiRon
                wrote on last edited by
                #13

                @dheerendra ok Sir

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                • jsulmJ jsulm

                  @ManiRon This is not really a good example as there is no need to synchronize the threads at all. You're using local variables in each run(), so you will not have race conditions. You should find a better example where you can see what happens without synchronisation and then add synchronisation.
                  Also, you're emitting signals in a loop that means slots will be executed after the loop is finished.
                  Did you connect the signals to the slot?

                  VRoninV Offline
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                  VRonin
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #14

                  I think you are confusing semaphores with mutexes. When you have 1 resource to protect there's no need to use a semaphore.

                  Can you tell us where do wou declare a, addSem and disSem?

                  @jsulm said in Trying to understand semaphore:

                  you're emitting signals in a loop that means slots will be executed after the loop is finished.

                  Not totally correct. If the connected slot is in a thread with an active event loop it will execute "immediately".

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                  • VRoninV VRonin

                    I think you are confusing semaphores with mutexes. When you have 1 resource to protect there's no need to use a semaphore.

                    Can you tell us where do wou declare a, addSem and disSem?

                    @jsulm said in Trying to understand semaphore:

                    you're emitting signals in a loop that means slots will be executed after the loop is finished.

                    Not totally correct. If the connected slot is in a thread with an active event loop it will execute "immediately".

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                    ManiRon
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #15

                    @VRonin

                    declared 'a' locally and addsem and disSem globally at MainWindow.cpp

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                    • VRoninV VRonin

                      I think you are confusing semaphores with mutexes. When you have 1 resource to protect there's no need to use a semaphore.

                      Can you tell us where do wou declare a, addSem and disSem?

                      @jsulm said in Trying to understand semaphore:

                      you're emitting signals in a loop that means slots will be executed after the loop is finished.

                      Not totally correct. If the connected slot is in a thread with an active event loop it will execute "immediately".

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                      ManiRon
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #16

                      @VRonin

                      Actually my aim was to check how the thread runs when we use a semaphore thats why thought of having a sample which displays each value after performing the addition but it just displays the first data after that the for loop is not running

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                      • dheerendraD Offline
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                        dheerendra
                        Qt Champions 2022
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #17

                        This indicates that one thread has acquired & did not release the semaphore. Show us the code with your loop for both the threads.

                        Dheerendra
                        @Community Service
                        Certified Qt Specialist
                        http://www.pthinks.com

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                        • dheerendraD dheerendra

                          This indicates that one thread has acquired & did not release the semaphore. Show us the code with your loop for both the threads.

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                          ManiRon
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #18

                          @dheerendra actually i got both the values from both the thread but the value was only the first value then the next value were not updated donno whether my for loop is running?

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                          • dheerendraD dheerendra

                            This indicates that one thread has acquired & did not release the semaphore. Show us the code with your loop for both the threads.

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                            ManiRon
                            wrote on last edited by VRonin
                            #19

                            @dheerendra
                            My thread Code:

                            void add_thread::run()
                            {
                            
                                int b = 0;
                                int c = 0;
                            qDebug("ADD_");
                                for (int a = 30; a < 40;++a)
                                {
                                    addSem.acquire();
                                    c = a + b;
                                    qDebug("ADD_DATA %d",c);
                                    disSem.release();
                                    sleep(1000);
                                    b = c;
                                    addSem.available();
                                    emit ADD_Data(c);
                            
                                    sleep(1000);
                                }
                                qDebug("ADD_DATA %d",c);
                            }
                            
                            
                            My Other thread code:
                            
                            void display_thread::run()
                            {
                            
                                int b = 0;
                                int c = 0;
                            
                                for (int a = 10; a < 20; ++a)
                                {
                                   addSem.acquire();
                                    c = a + b;
                                    addSem.release();
                                    b = c;
                                    addSem.available();
                                    emit ADD_Data1(c);
                                    sleep(1000);
                            
                                }
                            
                            
                            }
                            
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                            • dheerendraD Offline
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                              dheerendra
                              Qt Champions 2022
                              wrote on last edited by dheerendra
                              #20

                              @ManiRon said in Trying to understand semaphore:

                              disSem.release();

                              My guess is right. Still you are releasing someother semaphore. Replace above line with addSem.release. Both the threads should work with same semaphore.

                              addSem.aquire()
                              // do something
                              addSem.release()
                              

                              Dheerendra
                              @Community Service
                              Certified Qt Specialist
                              http://www.pthinks.com

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                              • dheerendraD dheerendra

                                @ManiRon said in Trying to understand semaphore:

                                disSem.release();

                                My guess is right. Still you are releasing someother semaphore. Replace above line with addSem.release. Both the threads should work with same semaphore.

                                addSem.aquire()
                                // do something
                                addSem.release()
                                
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                                ManiRon
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #21

                                @dheerendra
                                Sorry sir i changed and tried but the same result. But that too the second thread data i am able to display in line edit but the first thread data i am able to print using Qdebug but couldnt see the data in line edit

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                                • dheerendraD Offline
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                                  dheerendra
                                  Qt Champions 2022
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #22

                                  Can you show how did you declare semaphore ?

                                  Dheerendra
                                  @Community Service
                                  Certified Qt Specialist
                                  http://www.pthinks.com

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                                  • dheerendraD dheerendra

                                    Can you show how did you declare semaphore ?

                                    ManiRonM Offline
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                                    ManiRon
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #23

                                    @dheerendra

                                    QSemaphore addSem;

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                                    • dheerendraD Offline
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                                      dheerendra
                                      Qt Champions 2022
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #24
                                      1. addSem is not initialised with initial semaphore count
                                      2. sleep(..) it is seconds. So to complete the loop 10 times, it takes the 10*1000 seconds. So approximately you have to wait for 3 hrs to complete this loop:). So change your sleep to sleep(1).

                                      Dheerendra
                                      @Community Service
                                      Certified Qt Specialist
                                      http://www.pthinks.com

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                                      • dheerendraD dheerendra
                                        1. addSem is not initialised with initial semaphore count
                                        2. sleep(..) it is seconds. So to complete the loop 10 times, it takes the 10*1000 seconds. So approximately you have to wait for 3 hrs to complete this loop:). So change your sleep to sleep(1).
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                                        ManiRon
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #25

                                        @dheerendra
                                        done sir its working

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                                        • dheerendraD Offline
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                                          dheerendra
                                          Qt Champions 2022
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #26

                                          cool man. If you want the detailed example look at git

                                          Dheerendra
                                          @Community Service
                                          Certified Qt Specialist
                                          http://www.pthinks.com

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