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  • EngelardE Engelard

    @JohanSolo said in Why no std::byte in qt?!!:

    Well, Qt is no compiler... it's a framework. Therefore the argument holds.

    I don't understand. Each IDA must have it's own compiler, no?

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    kenchan
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    #10

    @Engelard
    No, the Qt IDE is not a compiler, it provides you with the ability to use whatever compiler you have installed and is compatible with the version of Qt you are using.
    In the case of the VS IDE it just happens to be provided by Microsoft and they also provide their own compiler as part of the package. That is just the way it is!

    If you want to use the c++17 features in Qt Creator you must tell the compiler you want to use it by putting CONFIG += c++17 in your pro file.
    EDIT:
    Another way to make it use the c++17 features is to add QMAKE_CXXFLAGS += -std:c++17 this should be equivalent to the above if you use the correct compiler.
    I think it will only work the the 15.0 compiler, I tried it with the 14.0 compiler and the complier did not like it. I don't use Qt with the 15.0 version yet so I can't test that.

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    • EngelardE Engelard

      Just tell me what should i do to be able to use std::byte in qt...

      P.S. this topic for some reason became 'auto topic', but this keyword wont work for my case because it can't convert in proper 'raw byte' type because there is no such thing in my Qt(yet).

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      VRonin
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      @Engelard said in Why no std::byte in qt?!!:

      what should i do to be able to use std::byte in qt

      Just chose as a compiler VS 2017.3 [P2] or later (i.e. the compiler 15.0)

      Each IDA must have it's own compiler, no?

      Absolutely not.

      this topic for some reason became 'auto topic',

      Forked to https://forum.qt.io/topic/95412/rants-about-auto

      "La mort n'est rien, mais vivre vaincu et sans gloire, c'est mourir tous les jours"
      ~Napoleon Bonaparte

      On a crusade to banish setIndexWidget() from the holy land of Qt

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      • K kenchan

        @Engelard
        No, the Qt IDE is not a compiler, it provides you with the ability to use whatever compiler you have installed and is compatible with the version of Qt you are using.
        In the case of the VS IDE it just happens to be provided by Microsoft and they also provide their own compiler as part of the package. That is just the way it is!

        If you want to use the c++17 features in Qt Creator you must tell the compiler you want to use it by putting CONFIG += c++17 in your pro file.
        EDIT:
        Another way to make it use the c++17 features is to add QMAKE_CXXFLAGS += -std:c++17 this should be equivalent to the above if you use the correct compiler.
        I think it will only work the the 15.0 compiler, I tried it with the 14.0 compiler and the complier did not like it. I don't use Qt with the 15.0 version yet so I can't test that.

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        Engelard
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        @kenchan said in Why no std::byte in qt?!!:

        I think it will only work the the 15.0 compiler, I tried it with the 14.0 compiler and the complier did not like it. I don't use Qt with the 15.0 version yet so I can't test that.

        Did'nt work out((

        @VRonin said in Why no std::byte in qt?!!:

        Just chose as a compiler VS 2017.3 [P2] or later (i.e. the compiler 15.0)

        Which one should i choose?:

        alt text

        And then. Where and for what exactly file should i looking at? Can i add same compiler from my VS2017?

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        • EngelardE Engelard

          @kenchan said in Why no std::byte in qt?!!:

          I think it will only work the the 15.0 compiler, I tried it with the 14.0 compiler and the complier did not like it. I don't use Qt with the 15.0 version yet so I can't test that.

          Did'nt work out((

          @VRonin said in Why no std::byte in qt?!!:

          Just chose as a compiler VS 2017.3 [P2] or later (i.e. the compiler 15.0)

          Which one should i choose?:

          alt text

          And then. Where and for what exactly file should i looking at? Can i add same compiler from my VS2017?

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          VRonin
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          @Engelard said in Why no std::byte in qt?!!:

          Did'nt work out((

          What did you do?

          "La mort n'est rien, mais vivre vaincu et sans gloire, c'est mourir tous les jours"
          ~Napoleon Bonaparte

          On a crusade to banish setIndexWidget() from the holy land of Qt

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          • VRoninV VRonin

            @Engelard said in Why no std::byte in qt?!!:

            Did'nt work out((

            What did you do?

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            Engelard
            wrote on last edited by Engelard
            #14

            @VRonin like @kenchan said, add in to .pro file one of these:

            CONFIG += c++17
            QMAKE_CXXFLAGS += -std:c++17
            

            Non of them worked. Still no byte type in std::

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              VRonin
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              #15

              Can you show us what kit are you building with? see image below:
              0_1539108183391_Capture.png

              "La mort n'est rien, mais vivre vaincu et sans gloire, c'est mourir tous les jours"
              ~Napoleon Bonaparte

              On a crusade to banish setIndexWidget() from the holy land of Qt

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              • VRoninV VRonin

                Can you show us what kit are you building with? see image below:
                0_1539108183391_Capture.png

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                Engelard
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                #16

                @VRonin I just added first manual compiler, which from folder of my VS2017 Community, still it says that byte is not part of std.

                alt text

                Here it is:

                alt text

                Did i did that correct?

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                  Engelard
                  wrote on last edited by Engelard
                  #17

                  Oh and in the Kits i just now noticed, for some reason there is compilers for amd chosen, when i have normal for intel i suppose in my VS. And i can't change it, when i press manage - it's simply throw me in to compilers tab so i don't know how to change it:

                  alt text

                  AND. i just now added one more custom compiler, also from VS2017 but 64 version, since i have x64 CPU and windows, maybe should be proper one, am i right?

                  alt text

                  Only one thing (as i understand) left to do. Is apply compiler which i chose in 'compilers' tab, because there is still my old as you can see from screenshot

                  alt text

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                  • EngelardE Engelard

                    Oh and in the Kits i just now noticed, for some reason there is compilers for amd chosen, when i have normal for intel i suppose in my VS. And i can't change it, when i press manage - it's simply throw me in to compilers tab so i don't know how to change it:

                    alt text

                    AND. i just now added one more custom compiler, also from VS2017 but 64 version, since i have x64 CPU and windows, maybe should be proper one, am i right?

                    alt text

                    Only one thing (as i understand) left to do. Is apply compiler which i chose in 'compilers' tab, because there is still my old as you can see from screenshot

                    alt text

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                    jsulm
                    Lifetime Qt Champion
                    wrote on last edited by jsulm
                    #18

                    @Engelard "How your argument should work?" - easy. You should understand the difference between a compiler, an IDE and a framework. Qt is a C++ framework (not a compiler), QtCreator is an IDE which supports many different compilers, but does not contain own compilers. C++standard library (std::*) comes as part of the compiler and NOT Qt, that's why it is "completely unrelated to Qt". So, as already explained by others you need a compiler supporting C++2017 and activate C++2017 supports in the pro file (not sure it is needed with Microsoft compilers).

                    Didn't QtCreator auto-detect your VS2017 compiler? Usually there is no need to configure compilers manually. The 15.0 is already the C++ compiler from VS2017, why do you add the compiler manually? Does it now work with your "Desktop Qt 5.10.1 MSVC2017 64bit2" Kit and autodetected VS2017 compiler?

                    One note: an IDE does not have to contain any compilers. Microsoft Compilers can be installed and used without Visual Studio. The reasons are: it must be possible to use compilers without a huge IDE (for example in a continuous integration system) and many IDEs (like QtCreator) support different compilers which come from different companies or are open source. QtCreator, for example, supports Microsoft Compilers and MinGW on Windows. Qt Online Installer for Windows provides the possibility to install MinGW as it is Open Source. Microsoft compilers on the other hand can't be provided by Qt Online Installer as this not allowed by Microsoft.

                    https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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                    • EngelardE Engelard

                      @VRonin I just added first manual compiler, which from folder of my VS2017 Community, still it says that byte is not part of std.

                      alt text

                      Here it is:

                      alt text

                      Did i did that correct?

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                      VRonin
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #19

                      @Engelard said in Why no std::byte in qt?!!:

                      still it says that byte is not part of std.

                      • Did you #include <cstddef>?
                      • Can you open Visual Studio 2017, create a simple console program and test if it works there?

                      "La mort n'est rien, mais vivre vaincu et sans gloire, c'est mourir tous les jours"
                      ~Napoleon Bonaparte

                      On a crusade to banish setIndexWidget() from the holy land of Qt

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                      • EngelardE Engelard

                        Oh and in the Kits i just now noticed, for some reason there is compilers for amd chosen, when i have normal for intel i suppose in my VS. And i can't change it, when i press manage - it's simply throw me in to compilers tab so i don't know how to change it:

                        alt text

                        AND. i just now added one more custom compiler, also from VS2017 but 64 version, since i have x64 CPU and windows, maybe should be proper one, am i right?

                        alt text

                        Only one thing (as i understand) left to do. Is apply compiler which i chose in 'compilers' tab, because there is still my old as you can see from screenshot

                        alt text

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                        kshegunov
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                        @Engelard said in Why no std::byte in qt?!!:

                        there is compilers for amd chosen, when i have normal for intel i suppose in my VS

                        This is the CPU instruction set. Intel processors use amd64, so it's correct.

                        Read and abide by the Qt Code of Conduct

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                        • EngelardE Engelard

                          @VRonin like @kenchan said, add in to .pro file one of these:

                          CONFIG += c++17
                          QMAKE_CXXFLAGS += -std:c++17
                          

                          Non of them worked. Still no byte type in std::

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                          kkoehne
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                          @Engelard said in Why no std::byte in qt?!!:

                          CONFIG += c++17
                          QMAKE_CXXFLAGS += -std:c++17

                          Please try

                          CONFIG +=c++1z

                          This works for me with Visual Studio 2017 compiler.

                          Director R&D, The Qt Company

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                          • EngelardE Engelard

                            @VRonin like @kenchan said, add in to .pro file one of these:

                            CONFIG += c++17
                            QMAKE_CXXFLAGS += -std:c++17
                            

                            Non of them worked. Still no byte type in std::

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                            kenchan
                            wrote on last edited by kenchan
                            #22

                            @Engelard
                            OK, problem solved...
                            In spite the Microsoft docs which say the -std:c++17 flag can be used in VS2017 to enable the c++17 features it does not seem to work though the command line via qmake!
                            but adding...
                            DEFINES += _HAS_STD_BYTE
                            and
                            QMAKE_CXXFLAGS += -std:c++17
                            to the pro file does work and I can use std::byte in the code.

                            QMAKE_CXXFLAGS += -std:c++1z also worked

                            I hope this works for you too.

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                            • VRoninV VRonin

                              @Engelard said in Why no std::byte in qt?!!:

                              still it says that byte is not part of std.

                              • Did you #include <cstddef>?
                              • Can you open Visual Studio 2017, create a simple console program and test if it works there?
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                              Engelard
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                              #23

                              @VRonin said in Why no std::byte in qt?!!:

                              @Engelard said in Why no std::byte in qt?!!:

                              still it says that byte is not part of std.

                              • Did you #include <cstddef>?

                              Yes, i mentioned in firsts posts.

                              • Can you open Visual Studio 2017, create a simple console program and test if it works there?

                              In first post i told that original program which widely using std::byte was from my VS2017(ofc it works).

                              @kshegunov

                              This is the CPU instruction set. Intel processors use amd64, so it's correct.

                              lol

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                              • kshegunovK kshegunov

                                @Engelard said in Why no std::byte in qt?!!:

                                there is compilers for amd chosen, when i have normal for intel i suppose in my VS

                                This is the CPU instruction set. Intel processors use amd64, so it's correct.

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                                Engelard
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                                #24

                                @kshegunov said in Why no std::byte in qt?!!:

                                @Engelard said in Why no std::byte in qt?!!:

                                there is compilers for amd chosen, when i have normal for intel i suppose in my VS

                                This is the CPU instruction set. Intel processors use amd64, so it's correct.

                                lol

                                @kkoehne said in Why no std::byte in qt?!!:

                                @Engelard said in Why no std::byte in qt?!!:

                                CONFIG += c++17
                                QMAKE_CXXFLAGS += -std:c++17

                                Please try

                                CONFIG +=c++1z

                                This works for me with Visual Studio 2017 compiler.

                                Sorry, no effect. Tried both of them, separately and together like in your message.

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                                • K kenchan

                                  @Engelard
                                  OK, problem solved...
                                  In spite the Microsoft docs which say the -std:c++17 flag can be used in VS2017 to enable the c++17 features it does not seem to work though the command line via qmake!
                                  but adding...
                                  DEFINES += _HAS_STD_BYTE
                                  and
                                  QMAKE_CXXFLAGS += -std:c++17
                                  to the pro file does work and I can use std::byte in the code.

                                  QMAKE_CXXFLAGS += -std:c++1z also worked

                                  I hope this works for you too.

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                                  Engelard
                                  wrote on last edited by Engelard
                                  #25

                                  @kenchan damn it worked! At least now after typing std::b it advice me byte type and word now not dead black but violet like all valid variables should be(finally).

                                  But!)

                                  It still rejects to compile. I tried to clean all, then rebuild, but same error:

                                  alt text

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                                    Engelard
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                                    #26

                                    Even restart of Qt don't help, what's wrong...

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                                    • EngelardE Engelard

                                      Even restart of Qt don't help, what's wrong...

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                                      kenchan
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                                      #27

                                      @Engelard
                                      hmm?? looks like you have another problem somewhere.
                                      Can you show us your pro file?
                                      Can you show us a screen shot of your kits panel for the kit you are currently using again please?
                                      Can you show us a screen shot the qt versions panel and the compilers panel again please?
                                      Can can you show a screen shot of the compiler output when you compile your code with the std::byte declaration please?

                                      Thank you

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                                      • K kenchan

                                        @Engelard
                                        hmm?? looks like you have another problem somewhere.
                                        Can you show us your pro file?
                                        Can you show us a screen shot of your kits panel for the kit you are currently using again please?
                                        Can you show us a screen shot the qt versions panel and the compilers panel again please?
                                        Can can you show a screen shot of the compiler output when you compile your code with the std::byte declaration please?

                                        Thank you

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                                        kenchan
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                                        #28

                                        @Engelard
                                        I few tests show me that you can actually get away with using either DEFINES += _HAS_STD_BYTE or QMAKE_CXXFLAGS += -std:c++17 when using the VS 15.0 compiler.
                                        Using both is obviously twice as safe.

                                        Just make sure you blow away the build folder, rerun qmake and rebuild just to be sure.

                                        creating a new Non-Qt Plain C++ project with this pro file

                                         TEMPLATE = app
                                        CONFIG += console
                                        CONFIG -= app_bundle
                                        CONFIG -= qt
                                        DEFINES += _HAS_STD_BYTE
                                        QMAKE_CXXFLAGS += -std:c++17
                                         
                                        SOURCES += \
                                                main.cpp
                                        

                                        and this c++ code worked fine for me.

                                        #include <iostream>
                                        #include <cstddef>
                                         
                                        using namespace std;
                                         
                                        int main()
                                        {
                                            byte stdbyte;
                                            stdbyte = std::byte(0);
                                            byte *arr = new std::byte[2];
                                            arr[0] = std::byte(0x2a);
                                         
                                            cout << "Hello World!" << endl;
                                            return 0;
                                        }
                                        

                                        Why don't you try this and see if it works?

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                                        • K kenchan

                                          @Engelard
                                          hmm?? looks like you have another problem somewhere.
                                          Can you show us your pro file?
                                          Can you show us a screen shot of your kits panel for the kit you are currently using again please?
                                          Can you show us a screen shot the qt versions panel and the compilers panel again please?
                                          Can can you show a screen shot of the compiler output when you compile your code with the std::byte declaration please?

                                          Thank you

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