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  • JonBJ JonB

    @jsulm , @Bart_Vandewoestyne

    I don't get what you don't get about: 0xFFFE is a positive overflow for parsing & storing into a ushort. Hence the behaviour.

    One thing that is clear: the implementation of QString::toShort() is not static_cast<short>(QString::toUShort()), even if that might have been the way you were tempted to do it.

    Nobody has looked at it "the other way round". I cannot test because I am Python/PyQt not C++, but what does

    QString("-2").toUShort(&ok, 16)
    

    return? In your theory it should be 0xFFFE, but I am "hoping"(!) it returns an error, just like QString("FFFE").toShort(&ok, 16) does?

    Assuming that is the case, this means we do not have an ambiguity/duplication, whereby both FFFE and -2 strings can be parsed as the same number by toShort()/toUShort() (but 2 is the only way to write +2).

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    @JonB said in QString::toShort problem:

    In your theory it should be 0xFFFE

    No, it would not, because -2 is not a hex number...
    "I don't get what you don't get about: 0xFFFE is a positive overflow for parsing & storing into a ushort" - we are not talking about unsigned short, but signed short and 0xFFFE is the representation of -2.

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    • J.HilkJ J.Hilk

      toShort makes a toLongLong interpretation first and than casts it to short theres where the "error" comes from:

      short QString::toShort(bool *ok, int base) const
      {
          long v = toLongLong(ok, base);
          if (v < SHRT_MIN || v > SHRT_MAX) {
              if (ok)
                  *ok = false;
              v = 0;
          }
          return (short)v;
      }
      

      toLongLong will return ‭65534‬, (0xFFFE in int64 is positve after all), and that is bigger than SHRT_MAX -> 0 and failed conversion

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      @J.Hilk
      In that case, try passing something like 0xFFFFFFFE or 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFE for the string to toShort() and those who want -2 instead of error should get it?!

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      • jsulmJ jsulm

        @JonB said in QString::toShort problem:

        In your theory it should be 0xFFFE

        No, it would not, because -2 is not a hex number...
        "I don't get what you don't get about: 0xFFFE is a positive overflow for parsing & storing into a ushort" - we are not talking about unsigned short, but signed short and 0xFFFE is the representation of -2.

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        @jsulm

        No, it would not, because -2 is not a hex number...

        Yes it is! It's as much a hex number as some other base.

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        • JonBJ JonB

          @J.Hilk
          In that case, try passing something like 0xFFFFFFFE or 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFE for the string to toShort() and those who want -2 instead of error should get it?!

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          @JonB said in QString::toShort problem:

          In that case, try passing something like 0xFFFFFFFE or 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFE for the string to toShort()

          Come on - these numbers are NOT short. We should stay on topic.

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          • jsulmJ jsulm

            @JonB said in QString::toShort problem:

            In that case, try passing something like 0xFFFFFFFE or 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFE for the string to toShort()

            Come on - these numbers are NOT short. We should stay on topic.

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            @jsulm said in QString::toShort problem:

            Come on - these numbers are NOT short. We should stay on topic.

            I beg your pardon!? I am totally on topic. I was replying to @J-Hilk 's display of the code of QString::toShort(). Did you try what I suggested rather than dismissing it as OT? In view of the code shown, I am trying to suggest what 0xFFF.... string toShort() will accept as representing a negative number....

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              Nobody wants to try my exercises... (sad face)

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              • JonBJ JonB

                @jsulm said in QString::toShort problem:

                Come on - these numbers are NOT short. We should stay on topic.

                I beg your pardon!? I am totally on topic. I was replying to @J-Hilk 's display of the code of QString::toShort(). Did you try what I suggested rather than dismissing it as OT? In view of the code shown, I am trying to suggest what 0xFFF.... string toShort() will accept as representing a negative number....

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                @JonB Passing 0xFFFFFFFE returns 0

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                • JonBJ JonB

                  @J.Hilk
                  In that case, try passing something like 0xFFFFFFFE or 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFE for the string to toShort() and those who want -2 instead of error should get it?!

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                  @JonB
                  actually, no take a look at toLongLong

                  qint64 QString::toLongLong(bool *ok, int base) const
                  {
                  #if defined(QT_CHECK_RANGE)
                      if (base != 0 && (base < 2 || base > 36)) {
                          qWarning("QString::toLongLong: Invalid base (%d)", base);
                          base = 10;
                      }
                  #endif
                  
                      bool my_ok;
                      QLocale def_locale;
                      qint64 result = def_locale.d()->stringToLongLong(*this, base, &my_ok, QLocalePrivate::FailOnGroupSeparators);
                      if (my_ok) {
                          if (ok != 0)
                              *ok = true;
                          return result;
                      }
                  
                      QLocale c_locale(QLocale::C);
                      return c_locale.d()->stringToLongLong(*this, base, ok, QLocalePrivate::FailOnGroupSeparators);
                  }
                  

                  I think, haven't looked stringToLongLong up, that here happens stirng lentgh magic, because every combinaion of FFF..E up to to 0xFFFFFFFE is interpretated as the uint value and everything above as -2 (as returning int64 value)


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                  • jsulmJ jsulm

                    @JonB Passing 0xFFFFFFFE returns 0

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                    #25

                    @jsulm

                    @JonB Passing 0xFFFFFFFE returns 0

                    Since QString::toLongLong() returns a qint64 (8 bytes, not 4), did you try 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFE ?

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                    • JonBJ JonB

                      @jsulm

                      @JonB Passing 0xFFFFFFFE returns 0

                      Since QString::toLongLong() returns a qint64 (8 bytes, not 4), did you try 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFE ?

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                      @JonB said in QString::toShort problem:

                      Since QString::toLongLong() returns a qint64 (8 bytes), did you try 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFE ?

                      Returns 0 as well.
                      And I don't see why it should depend on the length.

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                      • JonBJ JonB

                        @jsulm

                        @JonB Passing 0xFFFFFFFE returns 0

                        Since QString::toLongLong() returns a qint64 (8 bytes, not 4), did you try 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFE ?

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                        @JonB surprisingly enough

                        qDebug() << std::numeric_limits<int64_t>::min() << std::numeric_limits<int64_t>::max()
                                     << endl << (int64_t)0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFE;
                         QString s("0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFE"); bool ok;
                        short sh =  s.toShort(&ok, 16);
                        qDebug() <<sh << ok;
                        long lg = s.toLongLong(&ok,16);
                        qDebug() << lg << ok;
                        

                        returns:

                        -9223372036854775808 9223372036854775807 
                        -2
                        0 false
                        0 false
                        

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                        • jsulmJ jsulm

                          @JonB said in QString::toShort problem:

                          Since QString::toLongLong() returns a qint64 (8 bytes), did you try 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFE ?

                          Returns 0 as well.
                          And I don't see why it should depend on the length.

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                          @jsulm
                          It would "depend on the length", as you put it, because as a 64-bit number 0xFFFFFFFE != 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFE.

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                            @jsulm
                            It would "depend on the length", as you put it, because as a 64-bit number 0xFFFFFFFE != 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFE.

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                            @JonB I want to convert a signed short number not long or long long or ...
                            0xFFFE as signed short is -2 - do you agree (I mean independently from what Qt toShort() thinks it is)?

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                            • JonBJ JonB

                              @jsulm
                              It would "depend on the length", as you put it, because as a 64-bit number 0xFFFFFFFE != 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFE.

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                              @JonB

                              qDebug() << (short)0xFFFE;
                              

                              prints -2 as expected

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                              • jsulmJ jsulm

                                @JonB I want to convert a signed short number not long or long long or ...
                                0xFFFE as signed short is -2 - do you agree (I mean independently from what Qt toShort() thinks it is)?

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                                @jsulm
                                I believe the problem here is a confusion between "bit representation" and "string representation".

                                • It is undoubtedly, unambiguously true that, for signed short, 0xFFFE as a bit pattern is -2.
                                • However, for signed short, 0xFFFE as a string "could" be either -2 (which fits in a short) or 65,534 (which does not fit in a short). And QString::toShort() is taking the latter interpretation, and hence erroring.
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                                • jsulmJ jsulm

                                  @JonB

                                  qDebug() << (short)0xFFFE;
                                  

                                  prints -2 as expected

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                                  @jsulm said in QString::toShort problem:

                                  @JonB

                                  qDebug() << (short)0xFFFE;
                                  

                                  prints -2 as expected

                                  qDebug() << (short)0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFE;

                                  prints also -2, would one expect that
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                                  actually yes, the first bytes are simply dropped x)


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                                  • jsulmJ jsulm

                                    @JonB

                                    qDebug() << (short)0xFFFE;
                                    

                                    prints -2 as expected

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                                    @jsulm said in QString::toShort problem:

                                    @JonB

                                    qDebug() << (short)0xFFFE;
                                    

                                    prints -2 as expected

                                    Yes, that's why I wrote earlier:

                                    One thing that is clear: the implementation of QString::toShort() is not static_cast<short>(QString::toUShort()), even if that might have been the way you were tempted to do it.

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                                    • JonBJ JonB

                                      @jsulm
                                      I believe the problem here is a confusion between "bit representation" and "string representation".

                                      • It is undoubtedly, unambiguously true that, for signed short, 0xFFFE as a bit pattern is -2.
                                      • However, for signed short, 0xFFFE as a string "could" be either -2 (which fits in a short) or 65,534 (which does not fit in a short). And QString::toShort() is taking the latter interpretation, and hence erroring.
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                                      @JonB said in QString::toShort problem:

                                      However, for signed short, 0xFFFE as a string "could" be either -2 (which fits in a short) or 65,534

                                      No, signed short 0xFFFE is -2 even as string, because I'm calling toShort() not toUShort().
                                      And why does

                                      qDebug() << (short)0xFFFE;
                                      

                                      print -2?

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                                      • JonBJ JonB

                                        @jsulm said in QString::toShort problem:

                                        @JonB

                                        qDebug() << (short)0xFFFE;
                                        

                                        prints -2 as expected

                                        Yes, that's why I wrote earlier:

                                        One thing that is clear: the implementation of QString::toShort() is not static_cast<short>(QString::toUShort()), even if that might have been the way you were tempted to do it.

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                                        @JonB said in QString::toShort problem:

                                        the implementation of QString::toShort() is not static_cast<short>(QString::toUShort())

                                        I never said that

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                                        • jsulmJ jsulm

                                          @JonB said in QString::toShort problem:

                                          the implementation of QString::toShort() is not static_cast<short>(QString::toUShort())

                                          I never said that

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                                          @jsulm
                                          But you're asking why qDebug() << (short)0xFFFE; prints -2. And I'm saying that's because of the way "cast-to-short" works in C++, which is simply not what the implementation of Qt's QString::toShort() does or purports to do.

                                          Basically, "cast-to-short" ((short)) has no concept ever of "overflow/error", but QString::toShort() does have a concept of "overflow/error", and that's why they work differently. They are not intended to be equivalent.

                                          [I am beginning to feel the need for @kshegunov 's moral support here, because I feel I am being attacked ( :( ) and it is indeed all to do with the overflowing he mentioned in his earlier reply.]

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