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  • N NarutoKun

    @JNBarchan

    Good thought.. May be I shall give it a try. Non Qt code to handle Signals.

    Thanks

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    kshegunov
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    #12

    How do you judge that you haven't received/handled the SIGTERM at shutdown?

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    • kshegunovK kshegunov

      How do you judge that you haven't received/handled the SIGTERM at shutdown?

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      wrote on last edited by JonB
      #13

      @kshegunov
      I already asked him this question above:

      Also, how precisely do you judge that "my implementation doesn't work as expected when I execute sudo reboot / sudo poweroff"?

      He replied:

      @JNBarchan
      application is able to catch sudo kill -15 pid, to confirm the reception of signal I am writing to syslog directly as LOG_ALERT and also to a file. ( just writing short phrases in both instances )

      I take him at his word, that he sees these from kill but not from shutdown...!

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        There seems to be an assumption that when calling sudo shutdown or sudo reboot the system will let the time to all application do stop properly at their own pace. That's wrong. Like explained in the command documentation, the SIGTERM and SIGKILL signals are sent one after the other with a possible period between the two if provided. Since this period is not provided in this case and the default value is unspecified, the processes are likely going to get killed "en masse" pretty quickly to allow the system to shutdown/reboot.

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        • SGaistS SGaist

          There seems to be an assumption that when calling sudo shutdown or sudo reboot the system will let the time to all application do stop properly at their own pace. That's wrong. Like explained in the command documentation, the SIGTERM and SIGKILL signals are sent one after the other with a possible period between the two if provided. Since this period is not provided in this case and the default value is unspecified, the processes are likely going to get killed "en masse" pretty quickly to allow the system to shutdown/reboot.

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          #15

          @SGaist
          I wondered about this too. One presumes processes would receive SIGTERM at least a touch before SIGKILL, and I advised the OP to put it something very quick & simple for SIGTERM handler. I believe he claims that syslog shows the SIGTERM signal being delivered to the process via kill -15 but not during shutdown (but not sure). In any case, that is why I advised him that he needs to discover the shutdown actual behaviour, preferably outside of Qt. He should also read around general Linux stuff to discover how you are supposed to gracefully handle shutdown, as again I assume (based on nothing) that it allows programs a quick "grace period" to clean up & exit.

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          • JonBJ JonB

            @kshegunov
            I already asked him this question above:

            Also, how precisely do you judge that "my implementation doesn't work as expected when I execute sudo reboot / sudo poweroff"?

            He replied:

            @JNBarchan
            application is able to catch sudo kill -15 pid, to confirm the reception of signal I am writing to syslog directly as LOG_ALERT and also to a file. ( just writing short phrases in both instances )

            I take him at his word, that he sees these from kill but not from shutdown...!

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            kshegunov
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            #16

            @JNBarchan said in Qt application unable to catch sudo reboot / sudo poweroff from terminal:

            I already asked him this question above

            Missed that, sorry. Your suggestion is good, but as @SGaist pointed out there may be no time to really respond to the sequence of signals, and SIGKILL isn't something you can catch.

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            • kshegunovK kshegunov

              @JNBarchan said in Qt application unable to catch sudo reboot / sudo poweroff from terminal:

              I already asked him this question above

              Missed that, sorry. Your suggestion is good, but as @SGaist pointed out there may be no time to really respond to the sequence of signals, and SIGKILL isn't something you can catch.

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              JonB
              wrote on last edited by JonB
              #17

              @kshegunov
              I do not know about this area, but I believed the OP was saying that the system logged in syslog the sent/delivered signals to processes and he was looking through that. I may have misunderstood, and he only means his application does the logging when signal received, and then indeed we could have race conditions or no such signal actually sent.

              This indicates even more that OP needs to read up elsewhere how others handle "graceful shutdown" --- assuming it is designed to allow brief code execution in response to SIGTERM before delievery of something like SIGKILL.... e.g. perhaps start from https://stackoverflow.com/questions/22009705/how-to-detect-linux-shutdown-reboot, which might be indicating the same issue as OP is reporting?

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              • JonBJ JonB

                @kshegunov
                I do not know about this area, but I believed the OP was saying that the system logged in syslog the sent/delivered signals to processes and he was looking through that. I may have misunderstood, and he only means his application does the logging when signal received, and then indeed we could have race conditions or no such signal actually sent.

                This indicates even more that OP needs to read up elsewhere how others handle "graceful shutdown" --- assuming it is designed to allow brief code execution in response to SIGTERM before delievery of something like SIGKILL.... e.g. perhaps start from https://stackoverflow.com/questions/22009705/how-to-detect-linux-shutdown-reboot, which might be indicating the same issue as OP is reporting?

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                #18

                I think the problem here is there's a very few functions that can be called from a signal handler. It may be that the process is actually segfaulting, or if the exact example from the Qt docs is used then the acceptance of the SIGTERM would mean the continuation of the shutdown sequence (and subsequently killing the process as it hasn't quit). I'd try the following (use only the allowed POSIX functions for the signal handler):

                1. Create a semaphore on startup and acquire it
                2. When you get the SIGTERM write to the socket pair and acquire the semaphore again to prevent returning from the handler
                3. Do the clean up from the Qt handler
                4. Subscribe to the aboutToQuit signal and release the semaphore from the slot
                5. Only then return from the signal handler

                The above you could also accomplish by selecting on the socket you opened and writing back a byte after your Qt handler has been called and the cleanup code has run.

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                • kshegunovK kshegunov

                  I think the problem here is there's a very few functions that can be called from a signal handler. It may be that the process is actually segfaulting, or if the exact example from the Qt docs is used then the acceptance of the SIGTERM would mean the continuation of the shutdown sequence (and subsequently killing the process as it hasn't quit). I'd try the following (use only the allowed POSIX functions for the signal handler):

                  1. Create a semaphore on startup and acquire it
                  2. When you get the SIGTERM write to the socket pair and acquire the semaphore again to prevent returning from the handler
                  3. Do the clean up from the Qt handler
                  4. Subscribe to the aboutToQuit signal and release the semaphore from the slot
                  5. Only then return from the signal handler

                  The above you could also accomplish by selecting on the socket you opened and writing back a byte after your Qt handler has been called and the cleanup code has run.

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                  wrote on last edited by JonB
                  #19

                  @kshegunov
                  OP says of what happens when signal delivered:

                  my implementation doesn't work as expected when I execute sudo reboot / sudo poweroff in a terminal, though internally SIGTERM signal is getting emitted. Have checked this in syslog.

                  I'm still unclear whether he means he writes to syslog from his handler, or that the OS automatically logs signal delivery itself. I'm thinking the latter, as he's saying:

                  yet my application doesn't hit my signal handler when sudo poweroff / sudo reboot is executed through terminal. But when I execute kill -15 pid ( pid of my application ) signal handler gets executed

                  It depends on whether during shutdown he is truly not receiving the initial SIGTERM which would initiate his clean up code, or whether actually he is receiving it but very soon afterwards he's getting a SIGKILL or similar, so that his clean up code doesn't get to do much. Even if he hasn't yet returned from the SIGTERM handler, I thought nothing would block the SIGKILL from immediate delivery and termination, surely it doesn't care that you are presently in a signal handler?

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                  • JonBJ JonB

                    @kshegunov
                    OP says of what happens when signal delivered:

                    my implementation doesn't work as expected when I execute sudo reboot / sudo poweroff in a terminal, though internally SIGTERM signal is getting emitted. Have checked this in syslog.

                    I'm still unclear whether he means he writes to syslog from his handler, or that the OS automatically logs signal delivery itself. I'm thinking the latter, as he's saying:

                    yet my application doesn't hit my signal handler when sudo poweroff / sudo reboot is executed through terminal. But when I execute kill -15 pid ( pid of my application ) signal handler gets executed

                    It depends on whether during shutdown he is truly not receiving the initial SIGTERM which would initiate his clean up code, or whether actually he is receiving it but very soon afterwards he's getting a SIGKILL or similar, so that his clean up code doesn't get to do much. Even if he hasn't yet returned from the SIGTERM handler, I thought nothing would block the SIGKILL from immediate delivery and termination, surely it doesn't care that you are presently in a signal handler?

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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #20

                    I'd really like to see some code, though.
                    For one not everything can be done from a signal handler (as Qt's docs correctly note), and for two you need to register the handlers in such a way so you don't get interleaved signal handlers called, otherwise it's a big mess. A signal sent to the process is much like an interrupt, so it can get quite complicated if you're not requesting them to be queued.

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                    • kshegunovK kshegunov

                      I'd really like to see some code, though.
                      For one not everything can be done from a signal handler (as Qt's docs correctly note), and for two you need to register the handlers in such a way so you don't get interleaved signal handlers called, otherwise it's a big mess. A signal sent to the process is much like an interrupt, so it can get quite complicated if you're not requesting them to be queued.

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                      wrote on last edited by kshegunov
                      #21

                      @kshegunov @JNBarchan

                      Sorry was away hence couldn't respond.

                      Have written a C code for handling SIGTERM even here I am unable to catch sudo reboot / sudo poweroff, but my handler is able to catch kill -15 pid. I am creating a text file upon arrival of the signal.

                      Through this exercise atleast I am sure I am missing some concepts of how to handle Signals.

                      #include <stdio.h>
                      #include <signal.h>
                      #include <unistd.h>
                      
                      void signal_handler()
                      {
                      // Open a file on receiving the signal
                       FILE *fp = fopen("naruto.txt", "ab+");
                      }
                      
                      void main()
                      {
                          pid_t app_pid;
                          struct sigaction a;
                      
                      // PID of the application
                          app_pid = getpid();
                      
                          printf("process pid %d \n",app_pid);
                      
                      // assigning the signal handler
                          a.sa_handler = signal_handler;
                      // Restarting system calls 
                          a.sa_flags = SA_RESTART;
                      
                          if (sigaction(SIGTERM,&a, NULL) < 0)
                          {
                              printf("error");
                          }
                          if (sigaction(SIGINT,&a , NULL) < 0)
                          {
                              printf("error");
                          }
                      // Waiting for the signal
                          pause();
                      
                          printf("end\n");
                      }
                      

                      I am also trying to understand how to use RUN_LVL parameter for graceful shutdown. Thanks for the link.

                      [Added code tags ~kshegunov]

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                      • N NarutoKun

                        @kshegunov @JNBarchan

                        Sorry was away hence couldn't respond.

                        Have written a C code for handling SIGTERM even here I am unable to catch sudo reboot / sudo poweroff, but my handler is able to catch kill -15 pid. I am creating a text file upon arrival of the signal.

                        Through this exercise atleast I am sure I am missing some concepts of how to handle Signals.

                        #include <stdio.h>
                        #include <signal.h>
                        #include <unistd.h>
                        
                        void signal_handler()
                        {
                        // Open a file on receiving the signal
                         FILE *fp = fopen("naruto.txt", "ab+");
                        }
                        
                        void main()
                        {
                            pid_t app_pid;
                            struct sigaction a;
                        
                        // PID of the application
                            app_pid = getpid();
                        
                            printf("process pid %d \n",app_pid);
                        
                        // assigning the signal handler
                            a.sa_handler = signal_handler;
                        // Restarting system calls 
                            a.sa_flags = SA_RESTART;
                        
                            if (sigaction(SIGTERM,&a, NULL) < 0)
                            {
                                printf("error");
                            }
                            if (sigaction(SIGINT,&a , NULL) < 0)
                            {
                                printf("error");
                            }
                        // Waiting for the signal
                            pause();
                        
                            printf("end\n");
                        }
                        

                        I am also trying to understand how to use RUN_LVL parameter for graceful shutdown. Thanks for the link.

                        [Added code tags ~kshegunov]

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                        #22

                        @NarutoKun

                        Have written a C code for handling SIGTERM even here I am unable to catch sudo reboot / sudo poweroff, but my handler is able to catch kill -15 pid.

                        So what document/example are you working from for handling reboot/poweroff? Because there seems to be no evidence from your findings that it even sends a SIGTERM or whatever, or you aren't getting time to handle them, or other things are happening first! There must be posts on the web giving some suggested code for your situation?

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                        • JonBJ JonB

                          @NarutoKun

                          Have written a C code for handling SIGTERM even here I am unable to catch sudo reboot / sudo poweroff, but my handler is able to catch kill -15 pid.

                          So what document/example are you working from for handling reboot/poweroff? Because there seems to be no evidence from your findings that it even sends a SIGTERM or whatever, or you aren't getting time to handle them, or other things are happening first! There must be posts on the web giving some suggested code for your situation?

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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #23

                          @JNBarchan
                          Didn't get your question
                          So what document/example are you working from for handling reboot/poweroff?

                          For evidence of which Signal I am receiving on sudo reboot / sudo poweroff the following message gets logged in syslog file

                          rosui rsyslogd: [origin software="rsyslogd" swVersion="7.4.4" x-pid="656" x-info="http://www.rsyslog.com"] exiting on signal 15.

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                          • N NarutoKun

                            @JNBarchan
                            Didn't get your question
                            So what document/example are you working from for handling reboot/poweroff?

                            For evidence of which Signal I am receiving on sudo reboot / sudo poweroff the following message gets logged in syslog file

                            rosui rsyslogd: [origin software="rsyslogd" swVersion="7.4.4" x-pid="656" x-info="http://www.rsyslog.com"] exiting on signal 15.

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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #24

                            @NarutoKun
                            I mean, IMHO, you need to be looking at some documentation/code which shows how to handle your shutdown in a C-type program. It's clear it's doing a lot more than just a simple kill -15 does, so you need something which explains what's going on and what your code needs to do to handle it.

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                            • N NarutoKun

                              @JNBarchan
                              Didn't get your question
                              So what document/example are you working from for handling reboot/poweroff?

                              For evidence of which Signal I am receiving on sudo reboot / sudo poweroff the following message gets logged in syslog file

                              rosui rsyslogd: [origin software="rsyslogd" swVersion="7.4.4" x-pid="656" x-info="http://www.rsyslog.com"] exiting on signal 15.

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                              kshegunov
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                              wrote on last edited by kshegunov
                              #25

                              Excerpt from old code follows

                              void signal_handler(int sig)
                              {
                                  // ... handle signal here, but have in mind a very limited number of functions are allowed
                              }
                              
                              int main()
                              {
                                  // set up the signal handler
                                  sigaction action;
                                  sigset_t blkMask;
                              
                                  sigemptyset(&blkMask); 
                                  sigaddset(&blkMask, SIGINT);
                                  sigaddset(&blkMask, SIGQUIT);
                                  sigaddset(&blkMask, SIGTERM);
                                  sigaddset(&blkMask, SIGCHLD);
                                  sigaddset(&blkMask, SIGALRM);
                              
                                  signal(SIGPIPE, SIG_IGN);
                              
                                  action.sa_handler = signal_handler;
                                  action.sa_mask = blkMask;
                                  action.sa_flags = 0;
                              
                                  sigaction(SIGINT , &action, NULL);  
                                  sigaction(SIGQUIT, &action, NULL);
                                  sigaction(SIGTERM, &action, NULL);
                                  sigaction(SIGCHLD, &action, NULL); // Terminates and main proc
                              
                                  // ... rest of code ...
                              }
                              

                              My advice is to dedicate some time to read the POSIX documentation very carefully, it's paramount in this case.

                              For evidence of which Signal I am receiving on sudo reboot / sudo poweroff the following message gets logged in syslog file
                              rosui rsyslogd: [origin software="rsyslogd" swVersion="7.4.4" x-pid="656" x-info="http://www.rsyslog.com"] exiting on signal 15.

                              This doesn't prove you handle that signal, only that it was sent to you. Open a file when starting the application and log the signal number when you enter the signal handler to your file. Again, be sure to use only the functions that are allowed in signal handlers.

                              Read and abide by the Qt Code of Conduct

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