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  • P Panoss

    My goal is to create a real widget (ok plugin which wraps the widget).
    The strange thing is that I managed to create Qt widgets with Python, SO MUCH easier, just two files, one the plugin and one the widget, put in the right place and immediatelly show up in Qt Designer!!!
    I can't believe that with Qt Creator it's so much harder!!!
    Antway...I 'm thinking of using Visual Studio Express 2015.
    Is this suitable as Visual Studio?

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    mrjj
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    @Panoss
    Im not sure express will work but it might nowadays.
    I only heard of
    https://www.visualstudio.com/vs/community/
    But i can be wrong. I dont use visual studio at all. :)

    The reason for it being hard in C++ than python is the way DLLS works in windows.
    ( and python is not compiled)
    On linux its more easy as there is only gcc compiler.

    Just final question.
    It is easy to use custom plugins without all the plugin code using
    promotion.
    http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/designer-using-custom-widgets.html

    That however do not provide Design time editing of its properties.

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    • P Panoss

      My goal is to create a real widget (ok plugin which wraps the widget).
      The strange thing is that I managed to create Qt widgets with Python, SO MUCH easier, just two files, one the plugin and one the widget, put in the right place and immediatelly show up in Qt Designer!!!
      I can't believe that with Qt Creator it's so much harder!!!
      Antway...I 'm thinking of using Visual Studio Express 2015.
      Is this suitable as Visual Studio?

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      jsulm
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      #20

      @Panoss Use Community edition, it is free. Don't forget to select C++ during installation.

      https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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      • mrjjM mrjj

        @Panoss
        Im not sure express will work but it might nowadays.
        I only heard of
        https://www.visualstudio.com/vs/community/
        But i can be wrong. I dont use visual studio at all. :)

        The reason for it being hard in C++ than python is the way DLLS works in windows.
        ( and python is not compiled)
        On linux its more easy as there is only gcc compiler.

        Just final question.
        It is easy to use custom plugins without all the plugin code using
        promotion.
        http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/designer-using-custom-widgets.html

        That however do not provide Design time editing of its properties.

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        wrote on last edited by Panoss
        #21

        @mrjj said in Making a Qt custom widget without Qt Creator:

        @Panoss
        Just final question.
        It is easy to use custom plugins without all the plugin code using
        promotion.

        No, I need real widget(plugin).
        Well, I thought of it again, I think I'd better compile Qt Creator with mingw.
        How can I do this?
        According to this...it's a nightmare!!
        Will I have to re-compile if I create a new plugin sometime later?
        Or it's done once and forever?

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        • P Panoss

          @mrjj said in Making a Qt custom widget without Qt Creator:

          @Panoss
          Just final question.
          It is easy to use custom plugins without all the plugin code using
          promotion.

          No, I need real widget(plugin).
          Well, I thought of it again, I think I'd better compile Qt Creator with mingw.
          How can I do this?
          According to this...it's a nightmare!!
          Will I have to re-compile if I create a new plugin sometime later?
          Or it's done once and forever?

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          wrote on last edited by mrjj
          #22

          @Panoss
          Its sort of a do once and use mingw Creator for ever with that version of Qt
          But in a few version of Qt you might need to recompile Creator.

          Its not a nightmare as such ( webkit is: ) but it does take some (long) time.

          If you plan on others to use your plugin , the VS way is still better :)
          You will still use Creator etc and its just other compiler.

          And no, the whole reason to compile Creator with mingww is so it will load plugins compiled with
          mingw. So as long as you do not upgrade mingw , then no need to ever recompile Creator for a new plugin.

          The normal Creator is compiled with Vs and only like VS compiled plugins.

          So in my opinion, for your use case Visual Studio is better as its how it normally works and
          all other installations of Qt can just use it.

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            Panoss
            wrote on last edited by
            #23

            Ok, I 'll go for the Visual Studio, you convienced me :).

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            • P Panoss

              Ok, I 'll go for the Visual Studio, you convienced me :).

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              mrjj
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              wrote on last edited by mrjj
              #24

              @Panoss
              Super. Its fun with plugins.
              We need more , one can never have too many Designer widgets :)

              Final note:
              The debugger is a separate download.
              https://forum.qt.io/topic/60713/setting-visual-studio-2015-debugger/

              optional component called "debugging tools for windows"

              This is often a surprise :)

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                Panoss
                wrote on last edited by Panoss
                #25

                "Optional". So I can live without it, right?
                You mean, 'this is often a good surprise' ?

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                • P Panoss

                  "Optional". So I can live without it, right?
                  You mean, 'this is often a good surprise' ?

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                  mrjj
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                  wrote on last edited by mrjj
                  #26

                  @Panoss

                  You will need debugger :)
                  We all do.
                  And no its was not good surprise.
                  They come here and say.
                  "Program crash"
                  and we go like "ok, place a breakpoint and single step the function to find crash point."

                  But it can wait till later i guess :)

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                    mrjj
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                    #27

                    Fast question:
                    This plugin will run on windows xp?
                    The app is for Xp?

                    Note that from 5.7 ( think) its not tested on xp.
                    Might work or might not. Its not supported.

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                      wrote on last edited by Panoss
                      #28

                      It will run on Win 10, Win 7 and XP.

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                      • P Panoss

                        It will run on Win 10, Win 7 and XP.

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                        #29

                        @Panoss
                        Ok. just asking as XP is not on ppl mind anymore.
                        https://forum.qt.io/topic/73292/the-last-qt-version-that-supported-windows-xp

                        Sounds like using 5.6 is the best bet :)

                        Did u try that version of Creator on xp?

                        It didn't start or ?

                        Note that Xp in virtual machine do not have openGL (often) and can only work if started with some option
                        https://forum.qt.io/topic/36827/qt-creator-3-0-welcome-mode-not-working-in-virtualbox-vm

                        like
                        c:\path\qtcreator -noload Welcome -noload QmlDesigner -noload QmlProfiler

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                          Panoss
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                          On XP I haven't tried Qt Creator yet.
                          I was thinking of trying an older version, and adjusting the code where necessary.

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                          • P Panoss

                            On XP I haven't tried Qt Creator yet.
                            I was thinking of trying an older version, and adjusting the code where necessary.

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                            mrjj
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                            wrote on last edited by
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                            @Panoss
                            well if u go back to Qt4 then all plugin stuff is a bit different. ( from Qt5 series)
                            So would be great if 5.6 can be used. :)

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                              Panoss
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                              Ok, I installed VS 2015 and the debugger (Windows 10 SDK).
                              Qt Creator auto-detected the VS compiler and a CDB debugger (this must be from Windows 10 SDK).
                              This means I 'm ready?
                              So how do I compile a plugin to dll?

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                                SGaist
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                                Start a "Qt Custom Designer Plugin" project and it will be all prepared for that. This one is under "Other project" in the "New File or Project" dialog.

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                                Please read the Qt Code of Conduct - https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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                                  Panoss
                                  wrote on last edited by Panoss
                                  #34

                                  I make a New Project->Qt Custom Designer Widget, Name: I enter 'AnalogClock'->Next but I see no VS kit:

                                  alt text

                                  And no VS kit is auto detected.
                                  Maybe I should add manually a VS kit?

                                  Should I make two projects? The 'main' project in wich the widget will be used, and the project of the widget (plugin)?

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                                    Panoss
                                    wrote on last edited by Panoss
                                    #35

                                    I tried to add a kit manually, but it raises errors:
                                    alt text

                                    (I changed C++ compiler from MingW to VS2015)

                                    EDIT: Ok, I had forgotten in Maintenance tool to add, at Qt5.8: msvc2015 32-bit, I'm adding it right now.

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                                      Panoss
                                      wrote on last edited by Panoss
                                      #36

                                      Ok, after adding msvc2015 32-bit in Maintenance tool, everything seems ok.
                                      I built the poject, and a dll was created(!!wow) in my project 's debug folder.

                                      I also now have two folders:
                                      c:\qt\5.8\mingw53_32\bin and
                                      c:\qt\5.8\msvc2015\bin
                                      which have a designer.exe inside.
                                      I run them both (I suppose the one that should show my plugin is the msvc2015\bind\designer.exe) but in none of them appears my plugin.
                                      Also the dll of my plugin was not copied in any of the folders of c:\qt\5.8.

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                                      • P Panoss

                                        Ok, after adding msvc2015 32-bit in Maintenance tool, everything seems ok.
                                        I built the poject, and a dll was created(!!wow) in my project 's debug folder.

                                        I also now have two folders:
                                        c:\qt\5.8\mingw53_32\bin and
                                        c:\qt\5.8\msvc2015\bin
                                        which have a designer.exe inside.
                                        I run them both (I suppose the one that should show my plugin is the msvc2015\bind\designer.exe) but in none of them appears my plugin.
                                        Also the dll of my plugin was not copied in any of the folders of c:\qt\5.8.

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                                        jsulm
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                                        wrote on last edited by
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                                        @Panoss Try to copy the manually to plugins/designer directory in your msvc2015 Qt installation.

                                        https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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                                          wrote on last edited by Panoss
                                          #38

                                          I copied it in C:\Qt\5.8\msvc2015\plugins\designer, but it failed: 'uses incompatible Qt library. Cannot mix debug and release libraries':
                                          alt text

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