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  • N Nimika

    Thankyou both of you.
    Please tell me how to add my normal user to the dialout group?
    What is dialout group?

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    mrjj
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    @Nimika

    • Please tell me how to add my normal user to the dialout group?
      sudo usermod -a -G dialout theuser

    • What is dialout group?
      Its a predefined group found in many distros.
      From old times it was used to allowed modems
      to make connection etc. ( ie allow the user to connect to the internet :)

    So often the system has this group and any user in it, have access to /dev/ttySX

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    • N Nimika

      Thankyou both of you.
      Please tell me how to add my normal user to the dialout group?
      What is dialout group?

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      jsulm
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      @Nimika You really should learn how user/groups and access rights management is working on UNIX/Linux.

      https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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        @jsulm Actually my system is Red Hat Enterprise Linux based so it is different to use its commands.

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        • mrjjM mrjj

          @Nimika

          • Please tell me how to add my normal user to the dialout group?
            sudo usermod -a -G dialout theuser

          • What is dialout group?
            Its a predefined group found in many distros.
            From old times it was used to allowed modems
            to make connection etc. ( ie allow the user to connect to the internet :)

          So often the system has this group and any user in it, have access to /dev/ttySX

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          #20

          @mrjj Thank you !! let me add it now and search whether it will work or not.....

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          • N Nimika

            @mrjj Thank you !! let me add it now and search whether it will work or not.....

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            mrjj
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            wrote on last edited by mrjj
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            @Nimika
            Np. as far as I can see it's the same for Red Hat with ttySX access, so there is
            tons on google on the topic on allowing user X to read and write to /dev/ttSxxx
            stuff.
            http://ithelpblog.com/os/linux/bashandscripts/howto-add-user-to-group-on-linux-redhat-rhel-centos-fedora/

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            • SGaistS SGaist

              NEVER EVER use root like that. All the more when developing. It's bad practice and doing so you're opening a gaping security hole.

              Add your normal user to the dialout group and be done with it.

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              @SGaist Can I use serial ports to any user other than root?

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              • N Nimika

                @SGaist Can I use serial ports to any user other than root?

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                wrote on last edited by mrjj
                #23

                @Nimika
                Hi
                Any user can be granted access to /dev/X devices.
                Often it is done via the dialout group as its already assigned to serial devices such as ttyS0 and
                any user that is member of that group can use it.
                so often
                sudo adduser TheUserName dialout
                and and reboot is all that is needed.
                Adding user to group might have slightly different syntax on RH but concept and rights are 100% the same.:)
                http://websistent.com/fix-serial-port-permission-denied-errors-linux/

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                • mrjjM mrjj

                  @Nimika
                  Hi
                  Any user can be granted access to /dev/X devices.
                  Often it is done via the dialout group as its already assigned to serial devices such as ttyS0 and
                  any user that is member of that group can use it.
                  so often
                  sudo adduser TheUserName dialout
                  and and reboot is all that is needed.
                  Adding user to group might have slightly different syntax on RH but concept and rights are 100% the same.:)
                  http://websistent.com/fix-serial-port-permission-denied-errors-linux/

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                  Nimika
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                  @mrjj Thanks let me try it.

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                  • mrjjM mrjj

                    @Nimika
                    Hi
                    Any user can be granted access to /dev/X devices.
                    Often it is done via the dialout group as its already assigned to serial devices such as ttyS0 and
                    any user that is member of that group can use it.
                    so often
                    sudo adduser TheUserName dialout
                    and and reboot is all that is needed.
                    Adding user to group might have slightly different syntax on RH but concept and rights are 100% the same.:)
                    http://websistent.com/fix-serial-port-permission-denied-errors-linux/

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                    jsulm
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                    @mrjj @Nimika Just a note: after adding currently logged on user to a group you do not have to reboot (its not Windows :-)) - just log out and log in again.

                    https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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                    • jsulmJ jsulm

                      @mrjj @Nimika Just a note: after adding currently logged on user to a group you do not have to reboot (its not Windows :-)) - just log out and log in again.

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                      #26

                      @jsulm Thank you!!
                      But still in my case maybe RHEL is not allowing any other user to add in dialout group.

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                      • N Nimika

                        @jsulm Thank you!!
                        But still in my case maybe RHEL is not allowing any other user to add in dialout group.

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                        @Nimika said in Serial Port configuration in RHEL:

                        RHEL is not allowing any other user to add in dialout group.

                        cant you just use sudo in front?

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                        • N Nimika

                          @jsulm Thank you!!
                          But still in my case maybe RHEL is not allowing any other user to add in dialout group.

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                          jsulm
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                          @Nimika RHEL works like any other Linux distribution. To add a user to a group you need to be root. You can either login as root, or just enter su in a terminal window enter your root password and then add the user to the group. su is used to become root in a shell (you need root password).
                          @mrjj I think on RHEL sudo is usually not used, so sudo will probably not work (as far as I know, I could be wrong as I use Ubuntu).

                          https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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                          • jsulmJ jsulm

                            @Nimika RHEL works like any other Linux distribution. To add a user to a group you need to be root. You can either login as root, or just enter su in a terminal window enter your root password and then add the user to the group. su is used to become root in a shell (you need root password).
                            @mrjj I think on RHEL sudo is usually not used, so sudo will probably not work (as far as I know, I could be wrong as I use Ubuntu).

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                            @jsulm
                            Yeah I did all possibilities which I think can be done on RHEL.
                            By the way Thanks a lot for your all kind replies. :)

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                            • N Nimika

                              @jsulm
                              Yeah I did all possibilities which I think can be done on RHEL.
                              By the way Thanks a lot for your all kind replies. :)

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                              jsulm
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                              @Nimika So, is your user now member of dialout group? You can check this executing "groups" command in a terminal (not as root but as the user who needs the access rights!). You can add a user to a group manually: open /etc/group file in an editor (as root), look for a line like "dialout:x:115:" and append user name at the end of that line.

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                                In addition to what my fellows already wrote, if you're not too found of manipulating your user setting with the command line, most of desktop environment (KDE, Gnome, etc.) provide user management software so you'll likely be able to add your user to the dialout group with them. They should ask for an admin password when required.

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                                • jsulmJ jsulm

                                  @Nimika RHEL works like any other Linux distribution. To add a user to a group you need to be root. You can either login as root, or just enter su in a terminal window enter your root password and then add the user to the group. su is used to become root in a shell (you need root password).
                                  @mrjj I think on RHEL sudo is usually not used, so sudo will probably not work (as far as I know, I could be wrong as I use Ubuntu).

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                                  @jsulm
                                  Oh, you are right. it might not be set up at all
                                  https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux_OpenStack_Platform/2/html/Getting_Started_Guide/ch02s03.html
                                  so su is the way to go.

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                                  • jsulmJ jsulm

                                    @Nimika So, is your user now member of dialout group? You can check this executing "groups" command in a terminal (not as root but as the user who needs the access rights!). You can add a user to a group manually: open /etc/group file in an editor (as root), look for a line like "dialout:x:115:" and append user name at the end of that line.

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                                    @jsulm
                                    No my user is not the member because its not working in the dialout group.
                                    I did by editing to the group file as well. Whenever I am in my root and adding the user to the group it is showing that this user is already have the group.

                                    @SGaist
                                    which management software you are talking about??

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                                    • N Nimika

                                      @jsulm
                                      No my user is not the member because its not working in the dialout group.
                                      I did by editing to the group file as well. Whenever I am in my root and adding the user to the group it is showing that this user is already have the group.

                                      @SGaist
                                      which management software you are talking about??

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                                      mrjj
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                                      @Nimika
                                      HI
                                      I think the champion means that many newer distros have also a GUI version
                                      to change user / groups versus using the command line. :)

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                                      • N Nimika

                                        @jsulm
                                        No my user is not the member because its not working in the dialout group.
                                        I did by editing to the group file as well. Whenever I am in my root and adding the user to the group it is showing that this user is already have the group.

                                        @SGaist
                                        which management software you are talking about??

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                                        jsulm
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                                        @Nimika Sorry, I don't understand. To add a user manually you open /etc/group file in a editor (you need to be root to edit this file). Look for the group "dialout" and append the username at the end of the line containing the group, like:

                                        dialout:x:124:myuser
                                        

                                        This is how it works on UNIX/Linux since decades.
                                        "it is showing that this user is already have the group" - what/who is showing this?

                                        So, here what you should do:

                                        $ su
                                        ENTER YOUR ROOT PASSWORD
                                        $ vim /etc/group
                                        APPEND USERNAME AT THE END OF THEdialout LINE
                                        SAVE THE FILE
                                        CLOSE vim
                                        

                                        You can use another editor instead of vim.

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                                        • mrjjM mrjj

                                          @Nimika
                                          HI
                                          I think the champion means that many newer distros have also a GUI version
                                          to change user / groups versus using the command line. :)

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                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #36

                                          @mrjj
                                          ok thank you. Let me check.

                                          @jsulm
                                          I mean the /etc/group file is already containing my user thats why terminal is showing the message.

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