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    Radek
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    Thanks for your answer Gerolf!

    Good to know it works with OPenGL, there is hope it can possibly draw over a DirectX renderer :)

    I will do a test and post the results ;)

    There is no problem, there are only solutions. :)

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      DOBAZ
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      Hello Radek and Gerolf,

      I have quite a similar application I need to develop. Is it possible to display a QT window on top of a Windows game that uses DirectX?

      Have you got any results Radek?

      Thanks

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        Radek
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        Hi Dobaz,

        Sorry, nothing so far, I just didn't have the time. I had to change my computer.
        There is hope I can test something soon, I just re-installed Qt on my new comp yesterday evening ;-)

        Can't wait to test the new Creator ^__^

        First step would be to grab the game's window handler to be able to paint over it (that's the way I'll begin testing).

        As I'm newbie in this matter I may be mistaken though.....will post as soon as I can.

        I'm still open for any advice/thoughts :)

        Good luck!

        There is no problem, there are only solutions. :)

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          DOBAZ
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          Radek,

          thanks for your reply. So now I'm eager too that you test your new Creator! I only found things on having DirectX inside a Qt window. Doesn't help much. If your test works, it would be awsome.

          If I find something else, I'll let you know.

          Good luck too!

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            Radek
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            ok!

            thanks man.

            Let's hope it turns out well ^__^

            There is no problem, there are only solutions. :)

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              Radek
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              Hi there!

              I tried a bit yesterday evening.... can't seem to be able to dock a widget to another app...

              Could anyone please enlighten me if one knows a way to do it....
              Should I play at WINAPI-level? I can get the HWND of the app I want to dock my widget into but what next? I can't get wy widget to show on another app, even if it's not a directx renderer.

              Should I use SetParent() and then a collection of other functions to adjust my app? (I don't feel it good :s ).

              Desperate thx :)

              Edit: Found something interresting: QWinMigrate, maybe it could help me, I just built the ".pro", excluding the MFC part as explained int the reame
              I'll try to achieve something tonight, stay tuned! :)

              There is no problem, there are only solutions. :)

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                tomato
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                Hi Radek,

                Just to share my experience of managing 3D windows in Qt : it is really not straight forward... I wanted to include an OpenGL window (core profile) managed by an other lib (SDL) as QWidget and finally gave up... 3D windows are really managed in a special way by OS, especially direct3D (compared to OGL which seems relatively well managed by Qt API).

                So if you wanted a fast and working soution, may be your problem is "ill posed" or I misunderstood what you wanted...

                Hope that someone more skillful than me could unjam you!

                お前はもう死んでいる

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                  Radek
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                  Hi tomato,

                  Thanks for the reply.
                  You misunderstood my problem I think. I don't want to embed a D3D window in my QT app, but the other way. I want to display my app as if it was included in the D3D window. Somehow dock it into the game.
                  The purpose is to have a tool when you're in fullscreen mode, to avoid alt-tabbing.

                  I hope it's clearer this way. :-)

                  There is no problem, there are only solutions. :)

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                    Radek
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                    Time for a summary of how things are going so far....
                    BAD! :(((

                    Tomato, you understood well my problem in the first place.... yes I wanted a fast solution. And no it doesn't exist! -__-

                    After a gazillion hours of research on the internet, I finally (I'm a stubborn one :p ) came to the conclusion that it won't be easy game.

                    I might have found a guideline though.
                    For what I want to do (display something over a full-screen DirectX renderer), I need to go through DirectX itself, and use a technique known as hooking.... far from "piece of cake"!!! And then display an overlay on top of the game.
                    There are some available example apps that work like this: X-Fire, Steam, Mumble. The latter being opensource. (the overlay part of the source is scary!)

                    Being a stubborn-one(sorry for repeating myself), and for the sake of science and public common knowledge, I won't give up. =)

                    First stage will be to manage to use directX in QtCreator.

                    I'll keep posting for each stage I accomplish that seems important to me.

                    Now back to work.

                    There is no problem, there are only solutions. :)

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                      DOBAZ
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                      Hello Radek,

                      It's funny I just (few minute ago) got to the same conclusion. I called a Qt consultants and they're not able to help me on that one. So there's no way I will make it work by myself since I'm not as experienced.

                      The only solution is to go through DirectX. On my side though I am thinking of developing the whole thing in VS with DirectX and get some help with it because I know 0 about it. Not sure yet. Anyways thanks for the information, I will keep an eye on this thread to see how are things and even encourage you!

                      Good luck!

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                        Radek
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                        Hey Dobaz!

                        Thx for the encouragements, and good luck on your directx journey! May you find your way quickly! :-)

                        I've seen your thread on the forum, you can post updates too on your advancement, or some screenshot of your results if you have no time for writing ;)

                        I'm not in a hurry, so I can take the time to learn by myself (developping this for my pleasure).
                        Don't expect me to finish this in one week...there will be times with updates and times without a word, as the number of variables coming into account for my free time are numerous ;p

                        Cheers!

                        There is no problem, there are only solutions. :)

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                          Radek
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                          Hi folks!

                          Time for a little heads-up as I got awesome news! (I'm a little excited actually)

                          After some Internet digging I managed to implement a custom widget derived from QWidget that displays a DirectX renderer, built with QtCreator and MingW! Hoorray! :-p

                          This opens the path to victory as I now have the possibility to use DirectX. The DX version used is now DX9 as it assures the best compatibility (WinXP to 7).

                          More details this week-end when I have some time to write a longer post. =)

                          Stay tuned!

                          There is no problem, there are only solutions. :)

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                            Remolus
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                            Hi Radek,

                            have you got your Problem solved?
                            Cause i am nearly at the same problem.
                            I also want to create an overlay like the Steam (shift + tab) one for my controller Widget.
                            And it would be nice to have some example on that. :)

                            Level design begins where the rubber hits the road.

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                              QT-static-prgm
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                              Hi @Radek i know it's a little bit old this topic, but hopefully you found a solution and can share it with us. I'm currently working on an overlay, but it does not work to be painted over an fullscreen game

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