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    Sunfluxgames
    wrote on 4 Oct 2017, 13:01 last edited by
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    She seems to be wanted to be spoon feed all the answers versus looking and learning her answers. Jaws is more than capable of reading internet pages. She really needs to learn the basics before she can jump into QT.

    Use Cmake or Qmake on the command line.

    Use notepad++ to do all your .cpp and .h coding

    Me if i was blind and in your shoes i would use visual studio 2013 with jaws and learn all about how it works (google)

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    • S sierdzio
      22 Sept 2017, 05:43

      Do you have the code ready, with a .pro file (it is a project definition file that Qt uses to compile applications)? If yes, then you can compile your project from the command line. Open cmd.exe (I guess you are on Windows operating system) and type:

      qmake yourprojectname.pro
      make
      

      That should be enough, assuming your environment is prepared (qmake and compiler are both set up in PATH system variable).

      As a side note, as far as I know there is an accessibility team working at Qt Company, I'm sure they will be happy to hear how both Qt and Qt Creator can be improved to help blind people. You can try reaching them at qt-creator@qt-project.org. You can also subscribe to Qt Creator mailing list here: http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/qt-creator.

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      Annabelle
      wrote on 8 Oct 2017, 18:38 last edited by
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      @sierdzio said in Qt Programming Language:

      Do you have the code ready, with a .pro file (it is a project definition file that Qt uses to compile applications)? If yes, then you can compile your project from the command line. Open cmd.exe (I guess you are on Windows operating system) and type:

      qmake yourprojectname.pro
      make
      

      That should be enough, assuming your environment is prepared (qmake and compiler are both set up in PATH system variable).

      As a side note, as far as I know there is an accessibility team working at Qt Company, I'm sure they will be happy to hear how both Qt and Qt Creator can be improved to help blind people. You can try reaching them at qt-creator@qt-project.org. You can also subscribe to Qt Creator mailing list here: http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/qt-creator.

      I tried typing the code qmake ceremonyscriptgenerator.pro
      make
      into the command prompt (cmd.exe), but I get the following error.
      "qmake" is not a valid internal or external command or operable program.
      Does anyone know why this error occurs? Do I have to have Qt Creator installed on my machine?

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        wrote on 8 Oct 2017, 19:46 last edited by
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        You don't need Qt Creator. Qt itself is enough, because qmake is part of it. If cmd complaints it can't find qmake it's probably because it is not in the PATH environment variable. I have not used Qt on Windows for a long time, but if nothing's hanged, you can probably run a Qt-provided command line which has the tools properly set up.

        Alternatively, with your current command line, you can point it directly to where qmake is located, like this:

        c:\path\to\where\qt\is\bin\qmake.exe file.pro
        

        Oh, right. Possibly you need to type in "qmake.exe" instead of just "qmake" on Windows.

        (Z(:^

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          8 Oct 2017, 19:46

          You don't need Qt Creator. Qt itself is enough, because qmake is part of it. If cmd complaints it can't find qmake it's probably because it is not in the PATH environment variable. I have not used Qt on Windows for a long time, but if nothing's hanged, you can probably run a Qt-provided command line which has the tools properly set up.

          Alternatively, with your current command line, you can point it directly to where qmake is located, like this:

          c:\path\to\where\qt\is\bin\qmake.exe file.pro
          

          Oh, right. Possibly you need to type in "qmake.exe" instead of just "qmake" on Windows.

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          wrote on 9 Oct 2017, 14:31 last edited by
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          @sierdzio said in Qt Programming Language:

          You don't need Qt Creator. Qt itself is enough, because qmake is part of it. If cmd complaints it can't find qmake it's probably because it is not in the PATH environment variable. I have not used Qt on Windows for a long time, but if nothing's hanged, you can probably run a Qt-provided command line which has the tools properly set up.

          Alternatively, with your current command line, you can point it directly to where qmake is located, like this:

          c:\path\to\where\qt\is\bin\qmake.exe file.pro
          

          Oh, right. Possibly you need to type in "qmake.exe" instead of just "qmake" on Windows.

          I've searched in my computer's hard drive, and I can't find Qmake.exe, as it was uninstalled along with Qt Creator. Is there a way for me to find a direct download to just the Qmake.exe component? If so, where do I search?

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            9 Oct 2017, 14:31

            @sierdzio said in Qt Programming Language:

            You don't need Qt Creator. Qt itself is enough, because qmake is part of it. If cmd complaints it can't find qmake it's probably because it is not in the PATH environment variable. I have not used Qt on Windows for a long time, but if nothing's hanged, you can probably run a Qt-provided command line which has the tools properly set up.

            Alternatively, with your current command line, you can point it directly to where qmake is located, like this:

            c:\path\to\where\qt\is\bin\qmake.exe file.pro
            

            Oh, right. Possibly you need to type in "qmake.exe" instead of just "qmake" on Windows.

            I've searched in my computer's hard drive, and I can't find Qmake.exe, as it was uninstalled along with Qt Creator. Is there a way for me to find a direct download to just the Qmake.exe component? If so, where do I search?

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            ambershark
            wrote on 10 Oct 2017, 05:25 last edited by
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            @Annabelle No you will have to install Qt. You don't need to install the Creator part of Qt, but if you do it won't hurt. You can disable the install of Qt Creator as an advanced part of the install.

            My L-GPL'd C++ Logger github.com/ambershark-mike/sharklog

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              10 Oct 2017, 05:25

              @Annabelle No you will have to install Qt. You don't need to install the Creator part of Qt, but if you do it won't hurt. You can disable the install of Qt Creator as an advanced part of the install.

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              wrote on 10 Oct 2017, 13:30 last edited by
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              @ambershark said in Qt Programming Language:

              @Annabelle No you will have to install Qt. You don't need to install the Creator part of Qt, but if you do it won't hurt. You can disable the install of Qt Creator as an advanced part of the install.

              I tried that, but even the installer can't be fully accessed with JAWS or NVDA. Not even the built-in Microsoft Narrator that comes with Windows 7 can access that checkbox you're talking about. I've put in an Email message to the Qt Creator team, and unfortunately they haven't sent me an answer yet.

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                wrote on 10 Oct 2017, 14:07 last edited by
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                @tekojo maybe you can use your magic powers to ping people at Qt Company? See the post by @Annabelle above.

                (Z(:^

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                • S sierdzio
                  10 Oct 2017, 14:07

                  @tekojo maybe you can use your magic powers to ping people at Qt Company? See the post by @Annabelle above.

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                  wrote on 10 Oct 2017, 18:34 last edited by
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                  @sierdzio said in Qt Programming Language:

                  @tekojo maybe you can use your magic powers to ping people at Qt Company? See the post by @Annabelle above.

                  I'm confused! Who's Tekojo?

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                    wrote on 10 Oct 2017, 19:37 last edited by
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                    He's the community manager but currently pretty busy with the Qt Contributor Summit as well as Qt World Summit.

                    Interested in AI ? www.idiap.ch
                    Please read the Qt Code of Conduct - https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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                      10 Oct 2017, 13:30

                      @ambershark said in Qt Programming Language:

                      @Annabelle No you will have to install Qt. You don't need to install the Creator part of Qt, but if you do it won't hurt. You can disable the install of Qt Creator as an advanced part of the install.

                      I tried that, but even the installer can't be fully accessed with JAWS or NVDA. Not even the built-in Microsoft Narrator that comes with Windows 7 can access that checkbox you're talking about. I've put in an Email message to the Qt Creator team, and unfortunately they haven't sent me an answer yet.

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                      ambershark
                      wrote on 11 Oct 2017, 04:19 last edited by
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                      @Annabelle It won't hurt to just do the default install with Qt Creator. You'll still get Qt and the command line tools like Qmake using the default install. So I wouldn't worry about not being able to access that checkbox.

                      Would be a nice thing to have fixed for the future though.

                      My L-GPL'd C++ Logger github.com/ambershark-mike/sharklog

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                        Sunfluxgames
                        wrote on 11 Oct 2017, 13:00 last edited by
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                        @ambershark Is it possible we could write Morse code aka keyboard and just tab through the boxes on the installer and select what she needs by pressing keys?

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                          11 Oct 2017, 13:00

                          @ambershark Is it possible we could write Morse code aka keyboard and just tab through the boxes on the installer and select what she needs by pressing keys?

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                          ambershark
                          wrote on 11 Oct 2017, 21:04 last edited by
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                          @Sunfluxgames You wouldn't really have to write anything.. someone could just run the installer and figure out the exact keypresses she needs to get to the box she wants to uncheck and then list them here. If she's careful she can do it without a screen reader.

                          Also having a friend help install it would work too.

                          But again, it's not necessary at all to uncheck qt creator. I usually let it install Qt Creator and I pretty much never use it. I can spare the 200mb or whatever it is on my hard drive though. :)

                          My L-GPL'd C++ Logger github.com/ambershark-mike/sharklog

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                          • S SGaist
                            10 Oct 2017, 19:37

                            He's the community manager but currently pretty busy with the Qt Contributor Summit as well as Qt World Summit.

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                            wrote on 12 Oct 2017, 03:15 last edited by
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                            @SGaist said in Qt Programming Language:

                            He's the community manager but currently pretty busy with the Qt Contributor Summit as well as Qt World Summit.

                            I've got Qt Creator on my machine, and unfortunately I'm not able to create widgets without a mouse. I wonder, are there any keyboard equivalents to mouse clicks for creating widgets and wizard pages?

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                              12 Oct 2017, 03:15

                              @SGaist said in Qt Programming Language:

                              He's the community manager but currently pretty busy with the Qt Contributor Summit as well as Qt World Summit.

                              I've got Qt Creator on my machine, and unfortunately I'm not able to create widgets without a mouse. I wonder, are there any keyboard equivalents to mouse clicks for creating widgets and wizard pages?

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                              wrote on 12 Oct 2017, 07:59 last edited by
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                              @Annabelle Absolutely.. I do all my widgets in code. I almost never use the designer to create my forms/widgets.

                              I.e. if you want a label and text entry field you could do:

                              QWidget *w = new QWidget();
                              w->resize(600,400);
                              QHBoxLayout *box = new QHBoxLayout();
                              box->addWidget(new QLabel("Name"));
                              box->addWidget(new QTextEdit());
                              w->setLayout(box);
                              w->show();
                              

                              My L-GPL'd C++ Logger github.com/ambershark-mike/sharklog

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                                12 Oct 2017, 07:59

                                @Annabelle Absolutely.. I do all my widgets in code. I almost never use the designer to create my forms/widgets.

                                I.e. if you want a label and text entry field you could do:

                                QWidget *w = new QWidget();
                                w->resize(600,400);
                                QHBoxLayout *box = new QHBoxLayout();
                                box->addWidget(new QLabel("Name"));
                                box->addWidget(new QTextEdit());
                                w->setLayout(box);
                                w->show();
                                
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                                wrote on 12 Oct 2017, 12:22 last edited by
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                                @ambershark said in Qt Programming Language:

                                @Annabelle Absolutely.. I do all my widgets in code. I almost never use the designer to create my forms/widgets.

                                I.e. if you want a label and text entry field you could do:

                                QWidget *w = new QWidget();
                                w->resize(600,400);
                                QHBoxLayout *box = new QHBoxLayout();
                                box->addWidget(new QLabel("Name"));
                                box->addWidget(new QTextEdit());
                                w->setLayout(box);
                                w->show();
                                

                                Do you have any remote access software where you could log on to my computer and show me what you mean? For example, ITeleport? By keyboard shortcuts, I mean something like:
                                "Create New Widget" (Alt+W)
                                "Set Layout" (Control+Shift+L)
                                "Add Widget" (Alt+A)
                                "Show/Hide" (Control+Shift+H)
                                "Resize" (Control+R)

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                                  wrote on 12 Oct 2017, 12:58 last edited by Sunfluxgames 10 Dec 2017, 12:59
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                                  @Annabelle You wouldn't need shortcuts to create anything.

                                  In notepad++ you would create a class that can create dynamic widgets with you passing arguments for size and name in the function. All the designer lets us do is make it easier to drag and drop widgets into place while building code for us.

                                  In your case you going to build your application through C++ and .h files.

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                                    12 Oct 2017, 12:58

                                    @Annabelle You wouldn't need shortcuts to create anything.

                                    In notepad++ you would create a class that can create dynamic widgets with you passing arguments for size and name in the function. All the designer lets us do is make it easier to drag and drop widgets into place while building code for us.

                                    In your case you going to build your application through C++ and .h files.

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                                    wrote on 12 Oct 2017, 17:26 last edited by
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                                    @Sunfluxgames said in Qt Programming Language:

                                    @Annabelle You wouldn't need shortcuts to create anything.

                                    In notepad++ you would create a class that can create dynamic widgets with you passing arguments for size and name in the function. All the designer lets us do is make it easier to drag and drop widgets into place while building code for us.

                                    In your case you going to build your application through C++ and .h files.

                                    I'm still a bit confused, because I want to try the Qt Designer, but I seem to be left in the dust as to how I would have access to the command to create, add, delete, and show/hide widgets without keyboard shortcuts. Since I have 0% vision, this is why I use a screenreader and keyboard shortcuts. I wonder if any of the Qt Creator administrators could help with making the program more screenreader friendly. Image-based icons are a screenreader's weak point. text-based icons and menus with detailed descriptions are what is accessible to both sighted and blind individuals alike.

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                                      wrote on 12 Oct 2017, 18:12 last edited by
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                                      @Annabelle You should really take ambershark's advice. Code all your widgets in notepad++ and use the command line to complie your project into a .exe

                                      Then have someone with vision look over your project to make sure it looks the way you think. Even with the basics understanding of C++ your project is very simple to do.

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                                        12 Oct 2017, 18:12

                                        @Annabelle You should really take ambershark's advice. Code all your widgets in notepad++ and use the command line to complie your project into a .exe

                                        Then have someone with vision look over your project to make sure it looks the way you think. Even with the basics understanding of C++ your project is very simple to do.

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                                        wrote on 12 Oct 2017, 18:55 last edited by
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                                        @Sunfluxgames said in Qt Programming Language:

                                        @Annabelle You should really take ambershark's advice. Code all your widgets in notepad++ and use the command line to complie your project into a .exe

                                        Then have someone with vision look over your project to make sure it looks the way you think. Even with the basics understanding of C++ your project is very simple to do.

                                        I tried the code:

                                        qmake ceremonyscriptgenerator.pro
                                        make
                                        

                                        but it gives me the error message that "qmake is not a valid internal or external command or operable program". This is even after Qt Creator and all of its components are completely installed on my machine. Perhaps there's something I'm doing wrong? Maybe I could ask my friend, Markus Johnson (yes, that's "Markus" with a K, not a C), if he could try to set up some mouse movement scripts for Qt Designer with Axife Mouse Recorder (http://www.axife.com).

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                                          wrote on 12 Oct 2017, 19:01 last edited by mrjj 10 Dec 2017, 19:02
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                                          Hi
                                          It cannot find qmake. you must use full path to it
                                          like
                                          C:\Qt\5.9.1\msvc2015_64\bin\qmake.exe
                                          but yours will something with mingw and not msvc2015_64

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