Qt vs Symbian C++

snowpong

Here is the "best documented list":http://www.forum.nokia.com/Distribute/Packaging_and_signing.xhtml#article1_a I could find of the current devices OVI / Smart Installer likes.

jaak

[quote author="snowpong" date="1284630014"]Here is the "best documented list":http://www.forum.nokia.com/Distribute/Packaging_and_signing.xhtml#article1_a I could find of the current devices OVI / Smart Installer likes.[/quote]

Thanks for the link.

xsacha

There is a new SmartInstaller v1.1 by the way.
http://info.publish.ovi.com/?p=596
Mandatory as of today but was released last week.

Some stuff may have changed with regards to this topic.

snowpong

Thanks for the update

But - why can't they put a date on news releases like this? They say "Starting today, the new Nokia Smart Installer v1.1 is now mandatory for all Qt- based Symbian apps submitted to Ovi Publish" yet there is no date anywhere...

xsacha

It says it was released on the 24th in the wiki that page links to. Unless you meant when it became mandatory. Date of article was 2nd of December I think. I remember seeing the date before but now that I look, it's not there :O

By the way, just after this announcement one of my smart installer apps passed QA. So it's only for new submissions.

xsacha

But Nokia have stated that all Qt runtimes will be backwards compatible with Qt4.6.3. So not really a mess. The only things that aren't back compatible are the 'labs' that you shouldn't be using in production app anyway.

Also, they are fixing the Smart Installer thing. You won't have to say it may download up to 13MB of additional files anymore.

The only markets I wasn't able to distribute apps using SmartInstaller were Mainland China (without licencing partnership) and Korea (no idea?). But I don't think those had anything to do with Qt or Symbian C++.
I'm not sure why an operator would restrict Qt. Makes no sense really. Surely the customers would debrand their device or yell at their operator and not come back.

xsacha

Well as they are removing the "download up to 13MB of additional files" restriction, maybe they are also making the Qt download come from Ovi Store.

What's the domain that Ovi Store uses? There's no reason they couldn't host Qt Installer on there.

xsacha

Well it seems absurd.
Right now the application downloads Qt after the store has downloaded the application. So the extra download isn't related to the store. It's a one-off from the application. That's why they require that warning in the application's description.

What I believed they were doing is having the store host the Qt Installer instead. So you download it off the store. The operator store can have Qt Installer on their domain.

So what's the problem?

xsacha

That's so weird because on carriers in Australia, they manage to make Ovi Store, Android Market and iOS App Store free directly through using the store on your phone. No website. And nokia.com isn't free -- just the store.

xsacha

I think you need to have post-paid, but it doesn't eat in to your data if you use iOS App Store, Android Market or Ovi Store.

Note that iOS App Store forces you to download over WiFi if the app is over 10MB (or is it 20MB now?).

xsacha

In Australia, Hutchison was purchased by Vodafone. It's now VHA which owns Vodafone and 3.

I don't know how this carrier acts towards games downloaded from app stores, however I can assure you no carrier in Australia has a website where you download apps.

I hope there aren't many countries with operators modeled on yours (with website stores). I think it's certainly not the majority.

So these developers should have no fears in making Qt games.. at least for us Australians :) We are all waiting!

Angry Birds (Qt) is a massive hit here.

Important to remember that if your app is based on 4.6.3 you won't need to worry about any of that stuff anyway.