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How do I read in a text file line by line that uses Hex0D as a line terminator?

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  • AlicemirrorA Offline
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    Alicemirror
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    Andre, what does you means with "control"? To set a control like those explained above or what ?

    Enrico Miglino (aka Alicemirror)
    Balearic Dynamics
    Islas Baleares, Ibiza (Spain)
    www.balearicdynamics.com

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      andre
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      [quote author="Alicemirror" date="1299694794"]Andre, what does you means with "control"? To set a control like those explained above or what ?[/quote]

      I mean that I, as a programmer, can choose what QTextStream and QIODevice considder the line separator. Sure, you can output your data character by character, but I did not choose Qt to do everything by hand...

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        ivan.todorovich
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        [quote author="Franzk" date="1299693469"]Actually, the root of the problem is that Qt doesn't accept \r as a valid EOL.[/quote]

        Well, yeah.. That's the actual root of the problem :/

        I've been reading too much Qt Labs Blog posts.. Sadly, it seems I'm becoming one of those qt-is-perfect-no-need-to-change-anything guys >.<

        Jonathan, you should file a bug report http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/

        o_o Sorry for my rusted english.

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          ivan.todorovich
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          [quote author="Andre" date="1299694989"][quote author="Alicemirror" date="1299694794"]Andre, what does you means with "control"? To set a control like those explained above or what ?[/quote]

          I mean that I, as a programmer, can choose what QTextStream and QIODevice considder the line separator. Sure, you can output your data character by character, but I did not choose Qt to do everything by hand...[/quote]

          I agree with you. The best solution is indeed that.
          QTextStream and QIODevice already have the subroutines to read a file up to some hardcoded characters. It would be wise to add some "control" on what these classes consider a EOL.

          Then, the same routine could be used to read any character-separated file.

          o_o Sorry for my rusted english.

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            Franzk
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            [quote author="peppe" date="1299694316"][quote author="Franzk" date="1299693469"]Actually, the root of the problem is that Qt doesn't accept \r as a valid EOL.[/quote]
            Why should it? No platform supported by Qt uses that control character. [/quote]

            Mac is no longer supported?

            Even if it is true, \r is still a valid line ending and should therefore be supported, even if only by configuration.

            "Horse sense is the thing a horse has which keeps it from betting on people." -- W.C. Fields

            http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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              ivan.todorovich
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              [quote author="Franzk" date="1299695807"][quote author="peppe" date="1299694316"][quote author="Franzk" date="1299693469"]Actually, the root of the problem is that Qt doesn't accept \r as a valid EOL.[/quote]
              Why should it? No platform supported by Qt uses that control character. [/quote]

              Mac is no longer supported?

              Even if it is true, \r is still a valid line ending and should therefore be supported, even if only by configuration.[/quote]

              Just to add to your arguement, a quote from wikipedia:

              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newline :
              "Systems based on ASCII or a compatible character set use either LF (Line feed, '\n', 0x0A, 10 in decimal) or CR (Carriage return, '\r', 0x0D, 13 in decimal) individually, or CR followed by LF (CR+LF, '\r\n', 0x0D 0x0A). "

              o_o Sorry for my rusted english.

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                Alicemirror
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                AH :)

                Andre, you are right! As a matter of fact I focused the attention of all my answers thinking that there was a non standard line terminated file, while - silly, real! - \r is the old, famous carriage return...

                Enrico Miglino (aka Alicemirror)
                Balearic Dynamics
                Islas Baleares, Ibiza (Spain)
                www.balearicdynamics.com

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                  Jonathan
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                  As suggested, I've filed bug report QTBUG-18038.

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                    dangelog
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                    [quote author="Franzk" date="1299695807"][quote author="peppe" date="1299694316"][quote author="Franzk" date="1299693469"]Actually, the root of the problem is that Qt doesn't accept \r as a valid EOL.[/quote]
                    Why should it? No platform supported by Qt uses that control character. [/quote]

                    Mac is no longer supported?

                    Even if it is true, \r is still a valid line ending and should therefore be supported, even if only by configuration.[/quote]

                    Therefore I'm allowed to argue that ASCII 0x07 (BEL) is a valid line ending in my wonderful system, therefore QTextStream should support it? :)

                    Come on, stick to reality: if you need custom line endings handle the line splitting yourself. It's easy and always works.

                    (BTW: where do those files come from? Mac OS 9?)

                    Eventually, you can suggest an API extension to allow for custom line endings in QTextStream, and/or provide the implementation yourself (quite easy) and submit a merge request.

                    Software Engineer
                    KDAB (UK) Ltd., a KDAB Group company

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                      Jonathan
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                      My code would have been much tidier if I could have specified the end of line character.

                      But to be general, it would have to be a string. Didn't some systems use "x0Ax0D"?

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                        [quote author="Franzk" date="1299695807"][quote author="peppe" date="1299694316"][quote author="Franzk" date="1299693469"]Actually, the root of the problem is that Qt doesn't accept \r as a valid EOL.[/quote]
                        Why should it? No platform supported by Qt uses that control character. [/quote]

                        Mac is no longer supported?

                        Even if it is true, \r is still a valid line ending and should therefore be supported, even if only by configuration.[/quote]

                        Mac OS 9 was never supported during Qt 3 nor Qt 4. Mac OS X uses Unix newlines ('\n').

                        Software Engineer
                        KDAB (UK) Ltd., a KDAB Group company

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                          dangelog
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                          [quote author="Jonathan" date="1299701652"]My code would have been much tidier if I could have specified the end of line character.

                          But to be general, it would have to be a string. Didn't some systems use "x0Ax0D"?
                          [/quote]

                          Yes, f.i. Windows.

                          Software Engineer
                          KDAB (UK) Ltd., a KDAB Group company

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                            Franzk
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                            [quote author="peppe" date="1299701793"]
                            [quote author="Jonathan" date="1299701652"]My code would have been much tidier if I could have specified the end of line character.

                            But to be general, it would have to be a string. Didn't some systems use "x0Ax0D"?
                            [/quote]

                            Yes, f.i. Windows.[/quote]

                            That has always been \r\n, not \n\r as stated above.

                            "Horse sense is the thing a horse has which keeps it from betting on people." -- W.C. Fields

                            http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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                              Franzk
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                              [quote author="peppe" date="1299701466"]Therefore I'm allowed to argue that ASCII 0x07 (BEL) is a valid line ending in my wonderful system, therefore QTextStream should support it? :)[/quote]That might be taking it a bit far, but if you insist, I'm sure the implementer could take into account that you wish to view BEL as a EOL as well ;).

                              Edit: I just added a note to the issue referencing "the unicode standard on newlines":http://www.unicode.org/standard/reports/tr13/tr13-5.html.

                              "Horse sense is the thing a horse has which keeps it from betting on people." -- W.C. Fields

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                                Alicemirror
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                                Hi Franzk,

                                thank you for your note, but the Newline character I even known is NL, not NEL, or this is another definition that I don't know?

                                Qt full respect the Unicode specifications for this character? Because regardless from this specific case, the differences between the line termination in files became very important on Qt development environment that can work on different desktop platforms (Linux+Mac and Windows) where the sources the same are saved with different line-termination characters: if you try to open a source code created with QT-Linux under Windows (with notepad) it result unreadable, while Qt-Windows does the right interpretation.

                                Enrico Miglino (aka Alicemirror)
                                Balearic Dynamics
                                Islas Baleares, Ibiza (Spain)
                                www.balearicdynamics.com

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                                  Franzk
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                                  I usually interpret NL as newline, which is equivalent to \n which is actually LF (LineFeed). NEL is NExtLine. Why there is such a difference I don't know.

                                  Notepad has a habit of only accepting \r\n as line termination. Use proper editors ;).

                                  "Horse sense is the thing a horse has which keeps it from betting on people." -- W.C. Fields

                                  http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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                                    [quote author="Franzk" date="1299736994"][quote author="peppe" date="1299701793"]
                                    [quote author="Jonathan" date="1299701652"]My code would have been much tidier if I could have specified the end of line character.

                                    But to be general, it would have to be a string. Didn't some systems use "x0Ax0D"?
                                    [/quote]

                                    Yes, f.i. Windows.[/quote]

                                    That has always been \r\n, not \n\r as stated above.[/quote]

                                    Oops, you're right :-) I switched the bytes in my mind.

                                    Software Engineer
                                    KDAB (UK) Ltd., a KDAB Group company

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