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    CSKQt
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    I have just bot a new SSD and want to re-install Qt 5.3.0 Beta, but I do not want to re-install VS 2013 since I do not use it now. I do have a legit copy of VS 2013 so integrity is not an issue. If I can know what files are required from VS 2013, I can copy them from the old HD before I re-format it. I assume this is possible. Of hand, I know is the C++ compiler but not sure any other files.

    I am shying away from the Qt MinGW version because I would like to target both x86 and x64.

    Any one has any idea?

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    • SGaistS Offline
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      SGaist
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      Hi,

      You can't just copy files around like that, especially on Windows and even more if it's a Microsoft software.

      If it's only a matter of architecture, MinGW also provides a 64bit compiler.

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        Hi,

        it might be technically possible to do what you want, but it's not easy and I doubt anyone here has tried it.

        You'll need far more than the compiler. Off the top of my head you'll need header files and libraries. You'll need other tools in the toolchain. You'll need the appropriate registry entries and environment variables. You'll also need lots of time to put everything in the right places and make your computer think that MSVC is installed.

        The bottom line is, you should either install MSVC 2013 Express, or MinGW.

        Qt Doc Search for browsers: forum.qt.io/topic/35616/web-browser-extension-for-improved-doc-searches

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          Hi JKSH,

          That's what I am afraid of, that it is not straight forward. Especially the registry entries and environ is the pain.

          Hi SGaist,

          I was seeing only Qt MinGW for x86 only in the download section. But I just checked through the "How-To" documents the last few hours and found out that I can build Qt MinGW for x64. Thanks for the hint.

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            Hi, just a comment re. copying to SSD; JKSH is right, VS2013 is stuck inside Windows in so many different places, so copying all Windows is more or less the only solution.
            Before I had the same problem of being lazy and didn't want to reinstall, so instead I did (this was Windows 7):

            Disconnected the old HD. connected the SSD
            Borrowed a Windows 7 DVD, installed it on the SSD (so that you get kosher partitions on the SSD) don't activate it because it's gonna die soon
            Turrn off PC. Connect both the HD and the SSD
            Boot Ubuntu Live DVD
            Erase everything on C: on the SSD (not the HD :-)
            Select everything (including hidden files) on C: on the HD
            Copy to the C: on the SSD
            Turn off and disconnect the HD, start again and hope for the best
            Then when the old Win7 booted off the SSD, it needed to activate again, went fine. Voila, VS2013 on SSD!

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              Hi hskoglund,

              Actually I re-install Windows 7 afresh. It is always nice to have a fresh install to clean out all the stuff in the registry and system that are no longer required.

              I do not use VS2013 any more, in fact never like VS since .NET so I do not intend to install it to bloat the system.

              I will be receiving more Crucial SSDs from Amazon (price crashed recently) in the coming week. 2 of these will replace the HDs in my Win8.1 notebooks. Due to the OEM Windows activation, I will have to clone them, with proper "partition alignment".

              The following article is useful to take full advantage of the SSD speed, with proper "partition alignment":

              http://lifehacker.com/5837769/make-sure-your-partitions-are-correctly-aligned-for-optimal-solid-state-drive-performance

              Make sure PC is using AHCI in the BIOS. My Mac mini (no BIOS) and defaulted to IDE resulting in the SSD getting only about 250MBps read speed. I finally managed to enble AHCI in the MBR and now getting the approx. 500MBps read speed.

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                Re: VS2013: the compiler is ok but the UI with the SHOUTING menus :-((
                Don't like it, if someone suggested that QtCreator would be better off with ALLCAPITALS menus, hopefully they would transfer him/her to the psychiatric ward, but probably in Microsoft's case instead they got a promotion... (sorry offtopic)

                Re: SSDs: thanks for the tip about 4096 sectors alignment, good to know.

                About the SSD in your Mac mini, it probably also needs a "trim" sometimes:
                I use an MBP Retina with SSD, couple of times each year I do a Carbon Copy clone/backup to an external USB-drive. Then I reboot from the USB-drive so I can do Repair Disk on my internal SSD, and at the end, Disk Utility says "trimming SSD."
                When I reboot normally from the SSD after that (it might be just wishful thinking) but I think I notice a speedup in OSX.

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