Future of Qt
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The Jolla news is good. Hope they come up with something good. RIM, the other supporter of Qt seems to be going down. Is there any other news regarding Qt, Qt on WP8, Qt partnering alliance etc ? Who will take Qt forward. It will need the backing of big companies to move forward, something like the linux foundation.
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ICS is interested in helping out, Digia is still in the game. Apart from that, I think nothing new has surfaced over the past few weeks. Nokia itself remains silent about its plans.
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[quote author="sierdzio" date="1341918214"]Nokia itself remains silent about it plans.[/quote]
Of course they do. We were still owed an explanation about the last disaster, and that never came either. Not officially, anyway. So don't count on any statement this time either. You'll just notice if you see a press release that Qt was sold off, or that devs have been layed off, or that there simply continue to be loads of commits that keep on streaming in from the Nokia, and that nothing has really happened. Everything else is just rumours.
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Sad but true... just when Qt needs a clear path the most, even if it were an uneasy one, FUD is spreading instead.
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Nokia is effectively under the umbrella of MS, needless to say there is no place for a competing cross-platform SDK framework under that umbrella. I really hope Nokia will let go and sell Qt to some company whose corporate politics won't be as limiting.
If Nokia didn't suffer all those loses in term of money and market share, its relationship with MS could have been better, but now, as the "holly savoir" MS is in position to call the shots.
One simply has to give credit where it is due. Nokia failed to KEEP UP and lost so much, they could have easily spent 10% of what they LOST and dictate and set standards, both iOS and Android devices have plenty of weaknesses and it doesn't really take all that much to make a product line to out-compete them, provided you have the resources which Nokia did. Alas... the world is being ran by fools, that much should be obvious to everyone at this point...
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A quick refresh on how mobile market is going:
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Judging from recent activity on Gitorious, Necessitas is back on-line. The problem is, of course, the lack of backing. Bogdan is doing fantastic job, but he can't do it all (almost) alone. Of course, the situation would improve manifold if a company backed the port.
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That was the problem from the begining. It is a one man battle. I don't know why people are not interested in contributing to it, while there is lot of interest in things like phonegap, lot of companies sponsoring it. I guess this will come once Qt is fully free from Nokia.
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Haven't looked at git, but on sourceforge the last update is dated 18 February, which is exactly 5 months ago.
bq. the situation would improve manifold if a company backed the port
I have a feeling if Trolltech remained independent Android would be officially supported today.
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[quote author="utcenter" date="1342556202"]Haven't looked at git, but on sourceforge the last update is dated 18 February, which is exactly 5 months ago.
bq. the situation would improve manifold if a company backed the port
I have a feeling if Trolltech remained independent Android would be officially supported today.[/quote]
exactly. Had trolltech remained independant there would have been official support for both ios and android
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It takes time to make a language well-known in computer science world. We , Qt Programmers, will help Nokia on this point. We should not leave Nokia alone, we should support and teach Qt as much as we can!
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[quote author="Andre" date="1342601746"]Or TT would have been bust. Or...
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Was TT in mid-peril before the acquisitions? Flexible licensing for indie developers and unrestricted platform support would have made miracles for the popularity of Qt. There aren't many cross platform frameworks, sure, as of recently we got more attention in the JS/HTML area, but back in those days, Qt would have been without competition, and there is STILL not a single complete native cross platform in existence.
I don't think community is in any position to take Qt anywhere as long as it is property of Nokia, the BIG UNKNOWN is where Nokia is willing to take Qt, a question left unanswered despite the many questions and concerns from the community. This silence and uncertainty is of no use to anyone...
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[quote author="Andre" date="1342601746"]Or TT would have been bust. Or...[/quote]
Was TT in mid-peril before the acquisitions? Flexible licensing for indie developers and unrestricted platform support would have made miracles for the popularity of Qt. There aren't many cross platform frameworks, sure, as of recently we got more attention in the JS/HTML area, but back in those days, Qt would have been without competition, and there is STILL not a single complete native cross platform in existence.
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The point (which you cut away) was: Does it matter? Things are what they are. TrollTech got taken over by Nokia, like it or not. Now deal with it.[quote]I don't think community is in any position to take Qt anywhere as long as it is property of Nokia, the BIG UNKNOWN is where Nokia is willing to take Qt, a question left unanswered despite the many questions and concerns from the community. This silence and uncertainty is of no use to anyone...[/quote]
Lucky for all of us, others seem to think differently: KDAB, ICS, Froglogic, Digia and others are still committed to Qt, and are acting on that. -
I didn't say it is impossible to commit - what I said is it is impossible to take i.e. move Qt, surely contributors are free to contribute, but not set a direction for the framework. And there is still the question of the bulk of ex TT employees, which are critical to Qt in the long run.
My short term hope is that Necessitas focus on a QPA version of Qt, which should make porting much easier.
It was mentioned there is a sign of revival from necessitas at git, yet I don't seem to find anything...
