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    Damian7546
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    I thinking why we are talking about more than one thread? And why the error applies other thread? Since both CctalkDevice and MyCcTalkApp class are the same thread.... Only SerialWorker works in own thread which one is launched by CctalkLinkController .
    The polling timer is in CctalkDevice, so what is the problem ?

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      I thinking why we are talking about more than one thread? And why the error applies other thread? Since both CctalkDevice and MyCcTalkApp class are the same thread.... Only SerialWorker works in own thread which one is launched by CctalkLinkController .
      The polling timer is in CctalkDevice, so what is the problem ?

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      #22

      @Damian7546 print out thread ids on the screen in the constructor and in this function. Check out why they are different.

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        Ah, I see in your cctalk_device.h file, startTimer() is declared under protected:
        try moving it under slots: (like your function void timerIteration();)

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          @Damian7546 print out thread ids on the screen in the constructor and in this function. Check out why they are different.

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          @hskoglund without changes.

          @JoeCFD

          QML debugging is enabled. Only use this in a safe environment.
          ThreadID SerialWorker: 0x7cb34f9b27c0
          ThreadID CctalkLinkController: 0x7cb34f9b27c0
          ThreadID CctalkDevice: 0x7cb34f9b27c0
          ThreadID MyCcTalkApp: 0x7cb34f9b27c0

          LogMessgae: "* Coin acceptor configured device: /dev/ttyUSB0"
          LogMessgae: "* Opening port "/dev/ttyUSB0"."
          LogMessgae: "Requested device state change from ShutDown to: Initialized"
          ThreadID in startTimer() 0x71df85200640
          LogMessgae: "* Port "/dev/ttyUSB0" opened."
          LogMessgae: "> ccTalk request: SimplePoll, address: 2, data: (empty)"
          QMetaObject::invokeMethod: No such method qtcc::CctalkDevice::startTimer()
          LogMessgae: "> Request: 020001feff"
          LogMessgae: "< Full response: 020001feff01000200fd"
          LogMessgae: "< ccTalk response from address 2, data: (empty)"
          LogMessgae: "* Device is alive (answered to simple poll)"
          QObject::startTimer: Timers cannot be started from another thread*

          now I don't understand anything, why only the startTimer is on other thread?

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            @hskoglund without changes.

            @JoeCFD

            QML debugging is enabled. Only use this in a safe environment.
            ThreadID SerialWorker: 0x7cb34f9b27c0
            ThreadID CctalkLinkController: 0x7cb34f9b27c0
            ThreadID CctalkDevice: 0x7cb34f9b27c0
            ThreadID MyCcTalkApp: 0x7cb34f9b27c0

            LogMessgae: "* Coin acceptor configured device: /dev/ttyUSB0"
            LogMessgae: "* Opening port "/dev/ttyUSB0"."
            LogMessgae: "Requested device state change from ShutDown to: Initialized"
            ThreadID in startTimer() 0x71df85200640
            LogMessgae: "* Port "/dev/ttyUSB0" opened."
            LogMessgae: "> ccTalk request: SimplePoll, address: 2, data: (empty)"
            QMetaObject::invokeMethod: No such method qtcc::CctalkDevice::startTimer()
            LogMessgae: "> Request: 020001feff"
            LogMessgae: "< Full response: 020001feff01000200fd"
            LogMessgae: "< ccTalk response from address 2, data: (empty)"
            LogMessgae: "* Device is alive (answered to simple poll)"
            QObject::startTimer: Timers cannot be started from another thread*

            now I don't understand anything, why only the startTimer is on other thread?

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            JoeCFD
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            @Damian7546 move startTimer() to public slots:
            public slots:
            void startTimer();

            if ( QThread::currentThread() != thread() ) {
                    metaObject()->invokeMethod( this, "startTimer", Qt::QueuedConnection );
                   return;
            }
            

            If you have stop func for timer, you may need to do the same thing. The code above works in my app.

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            • JoeCFDJ JoeCFD

              @Damian7546 move startTimer() to public slots:
              public slots:
              void startTimer();

              if ( QThread::currentThread() != thread() ) {
                      metaObject()->invokeMethod( this, "startTimer", Qt::QueuedConnection );
                     return;
              }
              

              If you have stop func for timer, you may need to do the same thing. The code above works in my app.

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              @JoeCFD something is starting to work...

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                @JoeCFD something is starting to work...

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                #27

                @Damian7546 Have fun.

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                • JoeCFDJ JoeCFD

                  @Damian7546 Have fun.

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                  #28

                  @hskoglund said in Problem with running timer in another thread:

                  Ah, I see in your cctalk_device.h file, startTimer() is declared under protected:
                  try moving it under slots: (like your function void timerIteration();)

                  Problem is more complicated then can I thought, probably not related with startTimer() function .
                  I totally remove calling startTimer() from my project and still have the same error :

                  QML debugging is enabled. Only use this in a safe environment.
                  ThreadID SerialWorker:   0x79e36d8867c0
                  ThreadID CctalkLinkController:   0x79e36d8867c0
                  ThreadID CctalkDevice:   0x79e36d8867c0
                  Using  "/home/developer/.config/CCtalkProj.ini"  as a user-specific settings file
                  ThreadID MyCcTalkApp:   0x79e36d8867c0
                  "* Coin acceptor configured device: /dev/ttyUSB0"
                  "* Opening port \"/dev/ttyUSB0\"."
                  "Requested device state change from ShutDown to: Initialized"
                  test test test
                  "* Port \"/dev/ttyUSB0\" opened."
                  "> ccTalk request: SimplePoll, address: 2, data: (empty)"
                  "> Request: 020001feff"
                  "< Full response: 020001feff01000200fd"
                  "< ccTalk response from address 2, data: (empty)"
                  "* Device is alive (answered to simple poll)"
                  QObject::startTimer: Timers cannot be started from another thread
                  

                  Below I publish code wihich I try run:
                  [https://github.com/ienecode/cctalk.git](link url)

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                    Damian7546
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                    @JoeCFD @JoeCFD code analysis should be do from the creating object - MyCcTalkApp, where are created
                    Coin acceptor communicator - qtcc::Coin AcceptorDevice coin acceptor _;
                    Analyzing further do you see any problems ?

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                      J.Hilk
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                      Still the same problem as originally.

                      your 'serial_port_' is not moved with move ToThread QSerialPort uses internally QTimer thats why you see the message.


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                        Damian7546
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                        @J-Hilk So, how can I fix this code ? Can you give me tips ?

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                          Pass the correct parent to your timer.

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                            @J-Hilk So, how can I fix this code ? Can you give me tips ?

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                            @Damian7546

                            1. Fix your constructor of your QObject based worker: More of a principal matter in this case
                            class SerialWorker : public QObject {
                            	Q_OBJECT
                            	public:
                            
                            		/// Constructor
                            		SerialWorker();
                            ...->...
                            class SerialWorker : public QObject {
                            	Q_OBJECT
                            	public:
                            
                            		/// Constructor
                            		explicit SerialWorker(QObbject *parent = nullptr);
                            .....
                            SerialWorker::SerialWorker()
                            {
                            ...->...
                            SerialWorker::SerialWorker(QObject*parent) : QObject(parent)
                            {
                            
                            1. Drop the scoped pointer, you're trying to be fancy when there's no need for it and it's causing trouble
                            QScopedPointer<QSerialPort> serial_port_; 
                            ...->
                            QSerialPort * const serial_port_; //Raw dogging the serial port, hell ya 
                            
                            1. Init the QSerialport correctly:
                            SerialWorker::SerialWorker(QObject*parent) : QObject(parent), serial_port_{new QSerialPort(this)}
                            {
                            

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                              @Damian7546

                              1. Fix your constructor of your QObject based worker: More of a principal matter in this case
                              class SerialWorker : public QObject {
                              	Q_OBJECT
                              	public:
                              
                              		/// Constructor
                              		SerialWorker();
                              ...->...
                              class SerialWorker : public QObject {
                              	Q_OBJECT
                              	public:
                              
                              		/// Constructor
                              		explicit SerialWorker(QObbject *parent = nullptr);
                              .....
                              SerialWorker::SerialWorker()
                              {
                              ...->...
                              SerialWorker::SerialWorker(QObject*parent) : QObject(parent)
                              {
                              
                              1. Drop the scoped pointer, you're trying to be fancy when there's no need for it and it's causing trouble
                              QScopedPointer<QSerialPort> serial_port_; 
                              ...->
                              QSerialPort * const serial_port_; //Raw dogging the serial port, hell ya 
                              
                              1. Init the QSerialport correctly:
                              SerialWorker::SerialWorker(QObject*parent) : QObject(parent), serial_port_{new QSerialPort(this)}
                              {
                              
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                              @J-Hilk said in Problem with running timer in another thread:

                              Fix your constructor of your QObject based worker: More of a principal matter in this case

                              Drop the scoped pointer, you're trying to be fancy when there's no need for it and it's causing trouble

                              Init the QSerialport correctly:

                              TBH these things are also "weird" / designed badly in the original repository, @Damian7546 just copied/forked this structure.
                              I'm wondering if any of the original stuff actually works... from looking at it I would say it also has many issues.
                              Usually just including the class inQObject's parent-child structure and therefore moving the thread affinity with the parent would fix this. That's what I wrote/thought earlier, but it seems that this is not so easy to do due to the way the whole thing is designed.

                              QSerialPort * const serial_port_; //Raw dogging the serial port, hell ya 
                              

                              LMAO :D


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                                @J-Hilk After changes proposed by you , the logs are this:

                                "* Coin acceptor configured device: /dev/ttyUSB0"
                                "* Opening port \"/dev/ttyUSB0\"."
                                "Requested device state change from ShutDown to: Initialized"
                                "* Port \"/dev/ttyUSB0\" opened."
                                "> ccTalk request: SimplePoll, address: 2, data: (empty)"
                                "Starting poll timer."
                                "> Request: 020001feff"
                                "Polling......"
                                "< Full response: 020001feff01000200fd"
                                "< ccTalk response from address 2, data: (empty)"
                                "* Device is alive (answered to simple poll)"
                                QObject::startTimer: Timers cannot be started from another thread
                                "Polling......"
                                "Polling......"
                                "Polling......"
                                "- The last message was repeated 40 times total"
                                "- The last message was repeated 80 times total"
                                "- The last message was repeated 120 times total"
                                "- The last message was repeated 160 times total"
                                
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                                  @J-Hilk After changes proposed by you , the logs are this:

                                  "* Coin acceptor configured device: /dev/ttyUSB0"
                                  "* Opening port \"/dev/ttyUSB0\"."
                                  "Requested device state change from ShutDown to: Initialized"
                                  "* Port \"/dev/ttyUSB0\" opened."
                                  "> ccTalk request: SimplePoll, address: 2, data: (empty)"
                                  "Starting poll timer."
                                  "> Request: 020001feff"
                                  "Polling......"
                                  "< Full response: 020001feff01000200fd"
                                  "< ccTalk response from address 2, data: (empty)"
                                  "* Device is alive (answered to simple poll)"
                                  QObject::startTimer: Timers cannot be started from another thread
                                  "Polling......"
                                  "Polling......"
                                  "Polling......"
                                  "- The last message was repeated 40 times total"
                                  "- The last message was repeated 80 times total"
                                  "- The last message was repeated 120 times total"
                                  "- The last message was repeated 160 times total"
                                  
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                                  JonB
                                  wrote on last edited by JonB
                                  #36

                                  @Damian7546
                                  At this point I doubt that anyone can reliably know what exactly your code reads. You clearly still have a thread issue.

                                  I am unsure: have you identified where the startTimer() call is issued from in code?

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                                    @J-Hilk After changes proposed by you , the logs are this:

                                    "* Coin acceptor configured device: /dev/ttyUSB0"
                                    "* Opening port \"/dev/ttyUSB0\"."
                                    "Requested device state change from ShutDown to: Initialized"
                                    "* Port \"/dev/ttyUSB0\" opened."
                                    "> ccTalk request: SimplePoll, address: 2, data: (empty)"
                                    "Starting poll timer."
                                    "> Request: 020001feff"
                                    "Polling......"
                                    "< Full response: 020001feff01000200fd"
                                    "< ccTalk response from address 2, data: (empty)"
                                    "* Device is alive (answered to simple poll)"
                                    QObject::startTimer: Timers cannot be started from another thread
                                    "Polling......"
                                    "Polling......"
                                    "Polling......"
                                    "- The last message was repeated 40 times total"
                                    "- The last message was repeated 80 times total"
                                    "- The last message was repeated 120 times total"
                                    "- The last message was repeated 160 times total"
                                    
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                                    @Damian7546

                                    Since you probably used the code from the original GitHub repo without modifying it, you should reach out to the owner of the repo via GitHub issues.
                                    Maybe he can identify the problem as a whole faster than a bunch of people in the forum here, who have to dive into the project first and dig through the logic to understand how everything is put together.
                                    As @J-Hilk mentioned above, there are a couple of things that could have been done cleaner...
                                    (creating QObject derived worker without actually calling the QObject base implementation... etc...)


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                                      @JonB
                                      My opinion it call only once, in the CctalkDevice::requestSwitchDeviceState (cctalk_device.cpp) , when the device goes to Initialized.
                                      241 linie: https://github.com/ienecode/cctalk/blob/main/cctalk/cctalk_device.cpp

                                      @Pl45m4
                                      I contacted the author, and he tells me that this code was developed for a project that was stopped before there was a chance to properly test the code,
                                      so this is the state it was left in.

                                      I interesed in this code, because I think that the structure of this code for SERIAL communication seems very reasonable and developmental to me.

                                      So I would be really grateful if anyone of forumers could be help me run this code , especially to run cyclic polling , in way is realized in this code.

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                                        I don't see a reason to use threads for simple serial communication with QSerialPort at all. It just complicates things, esp. for people without proper knowledge about threads. Don't use it - simply use QSerialPort and proper signals & slots.

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                                          #40

                                          @Christian-Ehrlicher I expected such answers: "simply use QSerialPort and proper signals & slots." . I have project realized in this way.
                                          But as part of learning (main goal of the project) programming and uing threads I would like to use threads this time to serial communication, and run example considered in this topic.

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